when my husband and I were in SM they were asking for people to clean the bishops house saying he was such a busy man and it was a duty to heavenly father anyone els hear this?
Holy shit. Not only do they have to clean the church toilets, now they have to clean the bishops toilets too? What else can they do do keep the masses down - err I mean to show their humble willingness to serve the lord-of-clean-toilets.
I've never been asked to clean the bishop's house. But as a YM activity, my son was asked to clean a rental house that a ward member owned. I refused to allow him to participate.
Why in the world would you want ward members cleaning your house anyway? I'd much rather pay a professional cleaning service who would be less inclined to gossip about how dirty the floor was behind the toilet.
In Perry, UT we had a "service day" and our ward chose as one of its projects to clean up a private theatre where plays were held. I asked why a 'service project' was cleaning a business?
Boy, was there hostility because of my asking! Seems some who 'volunteered' to do service acted in the theatre. A cheezy way to get free cleaning no one in their group really wanted to do.
I still think service is fine but businesses should pay their own way.
As for the Bishop - go over and start cleaning and drop the bleach on his carpet and fall down a set of stairs or something - and make a claim for injury to the CHURCH - since you are doing it as a church project.
I think I have heard of a theater, owned by Mormons. Heritage playhouse/theater.Perry, UT..That should have never been a service project. They took advantage of their own religious sect. This was not the first time.
Several years ago my wife was asked to help work on the stake president private farm as a youth project. Not the stake farm, his private farm because he was so busy.
I have known bishops who were out of work - sometimes for over a year and they certainly could have used some help. If the bishop is very busy with the work of the ward and his family is over-whelmed, it would be a good deed to help.
He should have a smaller house (and how about the wife? oh yeah, the church put her to work too) and a bigger family - kids do it because they have to.
The church makes me busy and you are not busy enough - let's give you some more callings. I'll call you tomorrow and tell you what time to start.
M@t
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In a stake I was in in Germany, the stake president assigned members to come over and clean his place. Most arrogant asshole I've ever known in my life.
There seems to currently be a confusion in Mormonism over what should be paid labor vs. what is worthy of volunteer labor. I find it mind boggling that church volunteers work for profit-making businesses. But as long as Mormons keep taking it, the church hierarchy will keep dishing it out.
I learned how to say no to ridiculous requests for service from an EQ president,of all people. I was in the presidency and we were asked to help a single mother paint her basement. She was about as sympathy inducing as could be: single mother, little income, recently lost a young child in an accident. How could anyone say no to such a request, from such a poor soul in obvious need? But we declined the request. The pres told the bishop that we wouldn't do it because she had a 14 year old son who didn't do shit, ever, and there was no way we would sign up the EQ to do work he should be contributing to. This was the first time I realized that it was OK, preferable even, to think for yourself and say no to the bishop. I've used that valuable pearl of insight many times since over the years.
This is crazy! So besides cleaning the chapels for free, members have to clean the Bishop's house! Hire a cleaning service! Unless his house doesn't have gossip worthy secrets, porn etc...
How about asking the YW to clean the rental house you're moving out of? Never mind you should be doing it yourself, or paying someone to do it. Oh yeah, she couldn't do it because she was in Europe on vacation.
We as youth in my Pontiac Michigan ward did do service for the elderly, and a couple times it was cleaning someones house. it was good thoug, and he needed it and was very grateful. it was hard nasty work though.
Also, anyon from that aarea in Michigan might remember Michigan national bank. owened by people in the richer Detroit area, and they were mo's. they would have us for service, but sometimes for money for temple trips, but service go and serve at luncheons or clean up the warehouse, etc.
It was a strange relationship. But they got free or cheap labor and we got to do servie and free food and sometimes money, though it wasn't much.
I was driving by the one of millions of church houses Saturday on my way to the grocery store. see, I would go by....010 4 miles. yikes.
anyway, there were a dady and kids pulling weeds in the flower beds along the property of the stake center. What freakin fun on Saturday, dad, what are we doing today? "we get to serve the lord". Fun fun fun. Just as fun as hoeing beets at the farm, that wa s a Michigan and dad favorite. I only had to do it a few times. I didn't get it. we werer poor and we NEVEF got help from the ward. only when my daddy was old and needed a new roof and they just showed up to do it then did he accept help.
bishops house? Fuck that!!! I suppose if you were a professional and idd that in place of paying tithing......
I once proposed that our (dirt-poor) ward do a clothing exchange Before giving the stuff to D.I.; some Molly Mormon- like gal wanted to stone me; later, her common-sense husband took up with a common-sense married gal whose husband tried several occupations but couldn't make any stick; last thing I knew he was (Wait For It) a church janitor/custodian.
They used to do this routinely in our old ward. The ward Christmas party was replaced years ago by a Ward Day of Service. Cheaper to serve a breakfast to people, then have them split up in groups to write letters to missionaries, finish hygiene packs for a homeless shelter, make quilts for the needy and do yard work for elderly ward members. However, at best they picked one elderly ward member - but they always, always went and worked in Bishop Jackwagon's large yard (think horses, gardens, orchards and tennis courts big). The reasoning was that Bishop Jackwagon was so busy helping the ward that we needed to help him.
The problem with this scenario is that he has a stay at home wife with tons of energy and four kids, perfectly capable of keeping the yard in tip top condition and a FIL who is retired and comes over to work in the yard almost daily because he loves gardening and doesn't have much room to do it in his retirement condo. BJ almost never worked in the yard himself - except for the occasional lawn care. His wife complained to me about how little he did in the yard long before he was bishop. He didn't need the help from the ward but there were a number of ward members who, for health, financial or age reasons, would have desperately needed the help. But he accepted the "service" as his due, the way a king accepts adoration from his subjects. Sickening. The current bishop, Bishop Buttercream, lives in a condo with no yard so I wonder what they do now.
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What an opportunity to leave things for the next TBM proclein cleaner to find on their day to clean the royal masters house. The CES letter for one. Pictures from an Adult Mag. Sex Toys. The list is endless.