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Posted by: Stray Mutt ( )
Date: May 25, 2014 12:30PM

Or is it a case of an apostle just making up quasi-deep-spritual stuff to make members feel nice?

"In His plan there are no true endings, only everlasting beginnings." --Dieter F. Uchtdorf

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Posted by: dagny ( )
Date: May 25, 2014 01:17PM

Groan. Lame drivel-speak.

That sounds like something he would make up after watching a G rated Disney movie.

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Posted by: Stray Mutt ( )
Date: May 25, 2014 01:41PM

Maybe his DVD player is malfunctioning.

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: May 25, 2014 01:47PM

I feel better just reading that

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Posted by: jpt ( )
Date: May 25, 2014 02:43PM

So... does this mean "endure to the end" now means "endure all those everlasting beginnings?" I kinda like it when things are completed.

Maybe something was lost in translation.

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Posted by: exodus ( )
Date: May 25, 2014 02:47PM

I just got back in from gardening and I found a curious-looking rock when digging around. I put my laptop in the other room, with this posting on the screen. Then I took the rock out and interpreted this as being a message from a former Gadianton Robber.

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Posted by: Heartless ( )
Date: May 25, 2014 03:15PM

A variation of "worlds without end"?

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Posted by: upsidedown ( )
Date: May 25, 2014 05:00PM

"In His plan there are no true endings, only everlasting beginnings." --Dieter F. Uchtdorf

My name is Dieter Uchtdorf, and I testify that the lord inspired mankind to invent Viagra to rectify this problem of erectile dysfunction. A tablet of Viagra, no doubt, is going to change your sexual life for ever. No more worry about no true endings. Put an end to your everlasting beginnings. Always take viagra for your impotency issues only after consulting the physician. It is always prescribed to use Vigara tablet an hour before engaging with your partner.

It's a stolen quote from the marketing department at Pfiser the makers of the blue pill.

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Posted by: Bradley ( )
Date: May 25, 2014 05:04PM

He means the bull crap never ends.

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Posted by: moose ( )
Date: May 25, 2014 05:06PM

^^^^ This ^^^^

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Posted by: Edmond Dantes ( )
Date: May 25, 2014 05:09PM

Clearly wrong, as damnation means there is an end to things in the Mormon god's plans.

Maybe he should attend church every now and again to bone up on Mormon doctrine....I mean, if you're gonna be a Mormon apostle, the least you can do is know basic LDS 101 facts.

Just sayin....


Maybe he could start by retaking the missionary discussions?

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Posted by: schmendrick ( )
Date: May 25, 2014 08:05PM

Yes, the scripture can usually be found inside a fried, folded piece of sweetened dough. You can generally find it at your local Asian-themed restaurant.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/25/2014 08:05PM by schmendrick.

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Posted by: Outsider (not logged in) ( )
Date: May 25, 2014 08:51PM

Like anything else, it's designed to feel good without any real meaning.

I don't think we teach that much anymore.

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Posted by: White Cliffs ( )
Date: May 25, 2014 10:54PM

Moses 1:4

"...for my works are without end, and also my words, for they never cease."

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Posted by: samuellflyinghorse ( )
Date: May 25, 2014 11:06PM

"In His plan there are no true endings, only everlasting beginnings"

I'm studying up on various Eurolanguages again.
And that's not what Dieter said.
Germans have a thick, thick accent.
He said....
In dis pan, der ar no twoo dendins. only ebberlashin bigIndins.

He was talking about a frying pan, and big Indians / or Lamanites whom apparently "lash" or self flaggelate.

Or else they're still wearing "WarPaint" / mascara, etc.
:P
lov you SM.
keep postin'.
Always.
Sam!!

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Posted by: An observer ( )
Date: May 25, 2014 11:24PM

There's probably some verse somewhere that could be interpreted that way.

What I find really interesting about it is that it really highlights the huge difference between the LDS concept of eternity and the mainstream Abrahamic understanding of it. In traditional Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, "eternity" is a never-ending NOW. There is no experience of time as a sequence of moments or events. This is actually the same basic concept in Hinduism and Buddhism. Eternity is the state of the Absolute, outside of sequential time and therefore outside the realm of conscious experience. There can be no events, because events have to be experienced sequentially and therefore can only take place in the manifest world.

In the LDS version, "eternity" (or "the eternities," as I've heard some express it) is just a really, really long version of earth-time. Events will still happen, like the creation of worlds, the conception and birth of spirit children, etc. The only difference between manifest time and "eternity" in the Mormon view is really immortality.

And it's really kind of odd, because the LDS marriage rite differentiates between "time" and "eternity." The childishness of Joseph Smith's conception of eternity as essentially no different from manifest time, except for immortality, is one of the best arguments for his lack of education. He doesn't seem to have been exposed to the Church Fathers or any more advanced theology than the average church-goer might have heard in an average Protestant Sunday service.

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