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Date: October 14, 2010 05:34PM
is free will either, considering the brand of heavy indoctrination from birth in LD$ Inc., and genuine lack of choice. TSCC does not believe in free will for anyone, not even its membership. It is a dictatorship.
I agree that they are following “satan’s plan” by their own definition, but they think they can do whatever they want, because they like to pretend they represent an imaginary being so they can order people around, collect a lot of money, and live easy off the labor of working people. It is a pyramid scheme.
They also see this as religious persecution. Yes, in light of the horrible treatment of gays, LD$ Inc. think they are the ones being persecuted. They are on the wrong side of separation of church and state, and think they are being valiant in defending their views. Some of the talk below explains the twisted mindset. It also mentions Prop. 8, and I read this, and wonder what rights would they grant the Taliban under the banner of religion, because we don't want to use human rights to dictate to religion do we? (sarcasm, of course)
http://beta-newsroom.lds.org/article/the-threatened-demise-of-religion-in-the-public-square---talk-given-by-elder-lance-b.-wickman-at-j.-reuben-clark-law-society"UK Equality Bill
For the past year, the United Kingdom’s Labour government has been seeking to consolidate and strengthen the UK’s antidiscrimination legislation—specifically with respect to homosexuals. Labour’s so-called Equality Bill would have labeled—and forbidden—a church’s employment practice of requiring its employees to adhere to its moral standards. In the case of the Church, this legislation would have prohibited the application of a temple recommend standard of employment. Worthiness for a recommend is a prerequisite to virtually all Church employment and is vitally important to the work of the Church.
At the eleventh hour a coalition of churches—including our Church—was instrumental in persuading the House of Lords, in a very close vote, to amend the Equality Bill so as to adequately circumscribe its application to churches and preserve our recommend standard. That bullet was dodged—but barely!
Notwithstanding, the Pope decried the bill as an unfair assault on people and organizations of faith. In substance, he said that the most fundamental rights of freedom of conscience—what we Latter-day Saints refer to as “free agency” or “moral agency”—were being forced to give way to social rights.
One British commentator endorsed the Pope in an article entitled “The Pope is Right About the Threat to Freedom.”[i] Said he: “There are times when human rights become human wrongs. This happens when rights become more than a defense of human dignity, which is their proper sphere, and become instead a political ideology, relentlessly trampling down everything in their path. This is happening increasingly in Britain, and it is why the Pope’s protest against the Equality Bill, whether we agree with it or not, should be taken seriously.”
He added that “using the ideology of human rights to assault religion risks undermining the very foundation of human rights themselves.”
Sadly, the specter of such an assault is looming large in the United States as well."