Recovery Board  : RfM
Recovery from Mormonism (RfM) discussion forum. 
Go to Topic: PreviousNext
Go to: Forum ListMessage ListNew TopicSearchLog In
Posted by: jiminycricket ( )
Date: January 26, 2015 03:17PM

Two posts have talked about TSCC financial predicament. One post discusses Central America’s LDS members, that they need to fund their local expenses from local tithes. http://exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,1489168

A second post discusses in response to the first post that: “I think this is the sign of the beginning of the end.” http://exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,1489168

It seems that TSCC will invest in self-sustaining areas. And to what extent? Here are three examples of costly meetinghouse modifications:

The California San Jose Mission area is unique and pricey for LD$ Inc. The missionary department allots a vast fleet of 89 vehicles. It covers Silicon Valley and the surrounding area from Hollister to King City, Monterey up to Los Altos and Menlo Park, and over to Livermore with a population sum of 3 million people. Scattered throughout the mission are 240 missionaries who live in church paid housing that isn’t cheap. Missionaries reiterate ‘the surge’ has concluded from its former high of 290-300 missionaries.

There’s no shortage of ‘sacred funds’ in this LD$ vineyard when it comes to mormon real estate. Million$ go to improving existing meetinghouses. One building just completed its third least-expensive-improvement (one million dollar$). Three buildings recently had their 1960’s steeples razed and rebuilt at a widow’s-thievery-$ucking-mite of more than $250,000 each.

Example 1
(See Meetinghouse @ 3060 Pratt Avenue, San Jose, CA): https://www.google.com/maps/place/3060+Patt+Ave,+San+Jose,+CA+95133/@37.3790536,-121.840093,3a,47.9y,154h,85.94t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sN4K6hfXFYA_-zCrq9y2tCg!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x808fcda403714c09:0x6098e9fb28d65368!6m1!1e1

Example 2
(See Meetinghouse BEFORE @ 1655 Noreen Drive, San Jose, CA): https://www.google.com/maps/@37.2606307,-121.9066712,3a,75y,352.36h,88.44t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sg7SJV_11c5FgSQDJJ9MIbA!2e0
(and Noreen Meetinghouse AFTER): https://www.google.com/maps/@37.2609356,-121.9058564,3a,46.4y,275.83h,83.67t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sYup-zM3Oulr_MxcsL3aH8Q!2e0 )

Example 3
(See Stake Center @ 220 Elk St, Santa Cruz, CA): https://www.google.com/maps/@36.989753,-122.004602,3a,48.4y,57.72h,90.17t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sDtahHlfga3zKy8Dqefo8gg!2e0

In total: 3 steeples at a combined cost of over $750,000. My source, the Facilities Manager.

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: jiminycricket ( )
Date: January 26, 2015 03:22PM

Also, the same Facilities Manager said there are a few families who are wealthy enough that they want to pay to have a temple built in their neighborhood. They apparently don't like the 2½ hour drive to the Oakland Temple.

Guess where? Monterey/Pacific Grove/Carmel/Pebble Beach.

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: Devoted Exmo ( )
Date: January 26, 2015 03:29PM

Pockets like that will remain. And that's good news for the church, but there aren't enough wealthy Central Coastal Californian Mormons to support the losses around the world. And both of those things are fine with me.

Edit to add: And if you asked those same mormons if they'd be willing to give up their remodels in favor of supporting several stakes in Honduras, I think you'd get a similar pronouncement to the one coming from the COB -- "you're on your own!"



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/26/2015 03:31PM by Devoted Exmo.

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: Chump ( )
Date: January 26, 2015 03:36PM

Wealthy enough that they would each pitch in $10 million to fully fund the construction of what would be an "under-utilized" temple? TSCC would probably never go for it, 'cause the empty private temple would probably cause the wealthy donors to lose their testimonies and jump ship. In this case, if they build it, nobody will come.

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: Glo ( )
Date: January 26, 2015 05:58PM

LOL much like what happened in Newport Beach,California.

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: justsomegirl ( )
Date: January 26, 2015 03:30PM

Next step: http://www.scientology.cc/en_US/index.html

haha just kidding, no celebs would want to join up if it meant wearing garments.

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: El Stig ( )
Date: January 26, 2015 04:55PM

Having spent 3 mo in the Cal San Jose mission living in Alum Rock. They didn't spend much on my apartment. Mission home on the other hand-sweet digs

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: poopstone ( )
Date: January 26, 2015 07:58PM

My frame of reference is Utah.
Can anyone explain why there is a temple in Brigham and not Tooele, Brigham is between Ogden temple and Logan temples. No one in Box Elder drives more than 20 miles to get to the temple anyway.

In Tooele it's 36 miles to SL yet the mormon population is very heavy, the income is good (it's a bedroom community of SL), There's like 90,000 people in tooele county?

I must be missing something?

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: nonamekid ( )
Date: January 26, 2015 08:03PM

BKP wasn't born in Tooele.

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: iplayedjoe ( )
Date: January 26, 2015 09:58PM

I googled "money laundering" and was taken to those exact same addresses!

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: Dave in Hollywood ( )
Date: January 27, 2015 03:04PM

I think I finally understand why tracting seems to still continue on. It would take a long time to get through all those people.

In my mission, we had about 40 missionaries for 150,000 people. Since the 1840s!

Options: ReplyQuote
Go to Topic: PreviousNext
Go to: Forum ListMessage ListNew TopicSearchLog In


Screen Name: 
Your Email (optional): 
Subject: 
Spam prevention:
Please, enter the code that you see below in the input field. This is for blocking bots that try to post this form automatically.
  *******   **     **   ******   ********    ******   
 **     **  **     **  **    **  **     **  **    **  
        **  **     **  **        **     **  **        
  *******   **     **  **        **     **  **   **** 
        **   **   **   **        **     **  **    **  
 **     **    ** **    **    **  **     **  **    **  
  *******      ***      ******   ********    ******