So I get an email from the bishop that he will be teaching the priests about the 'law of chastity' and he finds that it is better when the fathers are present. I have no effing reason why it would be better with the fathers there. I'm hoping my boy is sick Sunday just so he does not have to suffer through that hour of mental stuntingness where he will get the proper instruction to be a kick start his self shaming and misery. Rhetorically I ask what does he think he will actually cover which these boys have not already heard?



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In other news, I marveled that my wife still has me so trained still and afraid of my shadow. I started watching some of the Playboy series on Amazon. The history of that mag is kind of interesting. I started watching it for the boobs. I'll be honest about that... Anyway, I saw it and other risqué things in my Amazon history and freaked out... What is she saw that? I hate that I'm scared of her about that. I had a post years ago about that subject.

I watched the movie Don Don (I think) about the guy who had the porn interest even after banging hot chicks. The power position that the girl tried to assert over the guy is kind of insightful to a simitude of this Mormon human condition. I see that my wife has this over me. I hate it. I don't want to be a dick to her, but there is no room for me being authentic in our relationship. I just told myself volumes with that statement.

One thing I have come to realize about myself is that I am GOOOOD at suffering. I can take mental angst with the best of them. I have learned how to function in misery and how to hide who I am and what I really want out of life even post faithfulness. I just did a little self help. Thanks world.


Wife was telling me about some non-member who wants to go to early morning seminary. I asked why someone would do that to themselves? This sent her into a testimony flurry. I realized that the "testify" mode is to get the last word in and have it be as non-refutable as possible. That's BS. I said some very blunt things about how toxic the church is. She surprised me as she replied sarcastically that I know what is best for everyone. I maintained that I did and that I was the fountain of all knowledge. She mocked me, until I said wait no I don't know anything or care about running anyone's life, then pointed to how she is guilty of exactly what she just accused me. She thinks everyone needs to be faithful members. She could not see her hypocracy. I got really turned off by this. So ridiculous..me and her.

I wouldn't allow them to teach your son ANYTHING without you being there.

Best if you are both sick and miss it.

They all have bad vibes and are all creepers in my book.

If you go to the meeting with the priests, I would talk to your son beforehand. Teach him that masturbation is healthy and normal, and is no one's business but his own. Give him the facts of life about love, sex, etc. (if you haven't already) to whatever extent seems appropriate. I can tell you as a teacher that kids are wise to sex at increasingly early ages, so IMO the sooner the better. And instruct him on how to respond to potential questions from the bishop, i.e. "No, I don't have a problem with masturbation." It's also best if you go into any further bishop interviews with him.

This. Give him a heads up about what he will be told and make sure he knows there are differing views on the subject matter and tell him he can make his own choices as long as his choices are within the law of the land.

He shouldn't have to lie. Like you said he can say he doesn't have a problem with masturbation (yeah I do it but I don't have a problem with it) or he can say "That's private."

And I completely agree that you should to to all future interviews with him if the kid insists on going.

Turn your imagination loose on this one. It is DELICIOUS. Bishops think they have the right to invade EVERYONE'S personal thoughts, dig around all they want, and if that doesn't pan out, to keep on prying.

Imagine if teens (and even twenty-somethings) all over the country (or all over the world, if necessary) began saying calmly, "That's private," whenever the nosy bishop begins interrogating around the topic of the interviewee's sexuality.

Imagine, a grass-roots movement, calmly setting limits and verbally shutting the door in the faces of excessively snoopy bishops (and their perverted, one-track minds) all over the world. Teaching the young people that they have the right not to answer inappropriate questions.

Young people learning to set boundaries. Just think where it could lead.

I would ask the question as to how many different names they can name to identify a boner;
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1. Boner
2. Stiffy
3. Hard On
4. Buldge
5. Erection
etc, etc, etc
and says these are all natural and part of being normal...lol

Oh, and make sure they are written down on the chalk board for the next class...

The One-Eyed Gent in the Turtle-Neck Sweater works for me.

Haha mines a gent as well

Time for a family weekend vacation!

Take your boy fishing or something... ANYTHING.

Tell your wife it is a bonding moment.

She will likely get all mushy and approve.

Women like relationship building.

Give your son the chance you think you never had. He deserves both parents point of view.

Just remember, as we read here, men are the oppressors because we have the priesthood, and women are victims of such oppression. And she is indoctrinated to like to be oppressed and objectified because......

So when she is ignoring you and controlling you, that is a sign of her being oppressed and when you have to hide what you like from her, that is you being abusive toward her.

All makes sense, right?

Thank goodness you have the priesthood power in your home! Hopefully someday, the women can be given the same priesthood so they can get some power, and not be so oppressed.

Thankfully your son has been given the mighty priesthood so he can be properly shamed. What a blessing! After beating him up over sexuality, then pressure him to go on a mission so he won't be rejected by Mormon girls.

I was always grateful to have the priesthood so my wife could tell me what to do and deny me sex and report me to the bishop if I looked at Playboys. And I also got to go to leadership meetings early on Sunday morning. And be the sole breadwinner while my wife made crafts with church friends......

I gave it up because I became a feminist and no longer wanted to be a misogynist in the patriarchy and rape culture.

Or something like that? I've been trying to learn exmoism - don't know if I got it right.