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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: August 24, 2017 12:04PM

Why does this not surprise me?!

"When it comes to women's equality, Utah ranks dead last in the United States -- that according to a new study.

That ranking is from WalletHub, that measured all 50 U.S. states in three categories: 1. Equal treatment in workplace environment, 2. Education and health, 3. Political empowerment.

The Beehive State did the worst in the education and health category, placing last, but Utah wasn't much better in the other categories either. It ranked 40th in political empowerment, its highest of the three categories and 43rd in workplace environment....

"The state's overall rank was bogged down by multiple metrics, the lowest being income disparity," said WalletHub analyst Jill Gonzalez. In that sub-category of workplace environment, Utah was 48th in a measurement of what women early in median weekly earnings.

Gonzalez also highlighted Utah's standing in other categories:
Disparity in average number of work hours - Utah 48th
Disparity in advanced educational attainment - Utah 50th."

http://kutv.com/news/local/utah-ranked-last-in-us-gender-equality

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Posted by: ificouldhietokolob ( )
Date: August 24, 2017 12:07PM

Well of course they're dead last.
Can't have them wimmin working and getting degrees, they have to be at home pregnant with kid #8!
And if they do have to work, they can't be paid like men. They don't have the priesthood, for cryin' out loud!

:)

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Posted by: badassadam ( )
Date: August 25, 2017 01:21AM

I agree with hie on this one.

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Posted by: cludgie ( )
Date: August 24, 2017 12:07PM

And yet my wife wants to move there because "it's the best state."

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: August 24, 2017 12:24PM

It's a better state to retire to, than to have to work in pre-retirement.

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Posted by: Jane Cannary ( )
Date: August 24, 2017 12:15PM

>>> 43rd in workplace environment


Hmmm this evaluation must have been done before the menfolk started allowing the girls to wear pants to work. Take that into consideration, and I'm sure Utah would rank at least 42nd.

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: August 24, 2017 12:26PM

Women folks have been wearing pants for a lot longer than the Utah Mormons give them credit.

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Posted by: rt ( )
Date: August 24, 2017 01:17PM

It's like the Google memo all over...

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Posted by: NormaRae ( )
Date: August 24, 2017 01:57PM

In all the time I lived in Utah and all the jobs I had, I only once ever had a female boss or manager or someone I worked directly for. And some of the men truly acted like women just needed to recognize their power and authority as male penishood holders, when that wasn't supposed to have anything to do with the workplace.

So nice to be on the other side of the country now and working in a place where some (most, in my opinion) of the most competent, and smartest, managers are women, and lots of them.

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Posted by: bradley ( )
Date: August 24, 2017 05:27PM

With stats like that, might as well move to Missouri. Maybe get a front row seat to the second coming.l

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Posted by: William Law ( )
Date: August 24, 2017 09:31PM

Hey, careful! Weren't not at the bottom of the list for everything.

We're still number one for porn subscriptions and number four for opioid abuse. So there!

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Posted by: Free Man ( )
Date: August 25, 2017 01:09AM

Guy at work said his friend just spent over $100,000 putting his daughter through the Colorado School of Mines to be an engineer. Now she is home having babies and doesn't want to work.

Should she be forced to work to make sure there is equality?

The wife of another guy at work just completed her masters in social work racking up $60,000 in debt. Now she says she would rather stay home with their 2 kids.

My daughters graduated with bachelors degrees and want to stay home with kids.

My wife has a teaching degree and quit a few years ago and doesn't want to work.

Anyway, again, should they be forced to work so there is no longer income disparity? Would be nice, as I've been bugging my wife to get a job since our kids are long gone. If she was a guy she couldn't get away with not working - she would be told to "be a man".

Anyway, interesting that when wives don't want to work, the men are seen as the victims, given the stress of being sole breadwinner.

Not PC, I guess.

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Posted by: Free Man ( )
Date: August 25, 2017 01:11AM

Meant "men aren't seen as the victims"

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Posted by: Cpete ( )
Date: August 25, 2017 01:49AM

Lol.

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Posted by: Goldros ( )
Date: August 25, 2017 01:29AM

This is something I personally don't get. I always wanted to work and be something more than a mom. I think it's great to be home with kids, but is it the only thing I want to do?

Now they're taking care of by their men, yet none of them don't realize that husband can divorce them or die and then they'll be left with nothing and without work experience.

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: August 25, 2017 07:38AM

The longer women are out of the job market to take care of a home and family, the harder it becomes to find gainful employment that matches their education and work experience.

I've been told in teaching, by some of my children's past educators, that there is a push to force older teachers out of their jobs through early retirement, etc., to make way for the younger educators newly minted fresh from college. It saves money for schools to pay newbies less. And they get the cutting edge skills many of their forebears are lacking.

I'm talking well respected teachers in their 50's, not 60's. One told me she was made to feel like a prehistoric dinosaur by her school district, they'd been trying to push her out for a few years - she was 58 and still working when she told me that, and an excellent teacher in the gifted/honors program.

My point is, even were your wife to try to find suitable employment, with her age and the time she's been out from the job market the odds are stacked against her.

Can relate to why mothers would choose staying home over working outside of home with young children. I would have loved to. As a single mom I didn't have the luxury to be a stay-at-home mother. Yet I've been underemployed for the past 20 years of my life. That despite a graduate degree.

There is age discrimination in the job market. It's unspoken because of EEO. But very real nonetheless.

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Posted by: summer ( )
Date: August 25, 2017 08:57AM

Let me 'splain to you how it works in my neck of the woods (mid-Atlantic.) Women get degrees and/or qualifications. They work for however long. They get married and have kids. They either keep working (most women I know,) or stay at home while their kids are young and then return to the workforce.

Maybe the Morridor is different, but that's how it works elsewhere for the majority of women. We now spend most of our adult lives working.

Oh, and I know of two men who are stay-at-home dads (for the present time,) while their wives are working.

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Posted by: fordescape ( )
Date: August 25, 2017 05:59AM

I remember the day I met a female lawyer at my ward. I just about keeled over in shock. Over thirty and single. I had thought about going to law school but I wouldn't have gone to BYU like she did. I'd have gone to a more secular school. Anyway, she was a role model.

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Posted by: anybody ( )
Date: August 25, 2017 08:24AM

<sigh> Why am I not surprised...



Educated women are known to take informed reproductive and healthcare decisions. These result in population stabilization and better infant care reflected by lower birth rates and infant mortality rates

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4649870/

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Posted by: SL Cabbie ( )
Date: August 25, 2017 01:59PM

Background: Way back in the last century I worked in the grocery business, part of my "12-year plan" to finish college. That chain is no longer here, but I do "find it relaxing" to walk down the aisles, particularly at stores that are open 24 hours. Helps with the road rage...

So anyway, it was late, and I went to one store nearby, picked up a few items, and on my way in I observed the checker open a checkstand for a lady rather than force her to use the self-serve.

When I was done, I asked for the same service, and he rang my items up in one of the self-serves instead. I made a remark that I thought it was stupid for this chain--they're part of co-op that includes four other name stores--to "copy Wal-Mart" with these monstrosities.

He looked at me in all seriousness and said, "Blame it on Obama for raising all the wages."

Good company guy, I guess, for a part-timer on minimum wage...

So I looked at him and said, "Kid, Obama was the best president of our lifetime, bar none."

And I recited a little dittle I wrote a few years ago that, as most humor does, quickly became dated...

"We raise up a glass to Barack H. Obama,

"The hole in the ocean was plugged; likewise Osama."

And honest-to-Macaroni (Mormon patron saint of large families), the yayhoo said to me the Bush Administration took Bin Laden out and were keeping him on ice until the election, but CNN got word and threatened them with exposure...

Obama later took the credit, according to my genius...

I'll bet the price of a cab ride to Heber City he was LDS.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 08/26/2017 01:43PM by SL Cabbie.

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