“When a father and mother of a family have [been sealed], their children who have not transgressed are secured by the seal wherewith the Parents have been sealed."
Well he's a special witness so he would know. Here's what I learned from the article:
"Here's a quote from Joseph Smith saying the opposite of what I'm saying. But that's not the whole quote because the part that agrees with me has been hidden up my ass this whole time. Let me just crap it out for you and it will all make sense."
Someone ought to shoot back at Bednar. According to Tom Phillips' explanation of the Second Anointing, the recipient (the anointee) is granted POWER TO SAVE HIS POSTERITY.
". . . thou shalt have power to redeem thy progenitors and thou shalt have power over thy posterity and shall save all of them and bring them into thy kingdom."
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/04/2015 12:34PM by jiminycricket.
Exactly. It has indeed been confirmed that recipients of the SA have the power to save their posterity. So even less active children of recipients will be saved regardless of their own free will.
Bednar knows this too, so rather spiteful of him to dampen the fragile hopes of so many members, while secretly knowing he and inner circle associates are completely immune.
At least one set of hubby's great-great grandparents had their second anointing...so hubby plans to use this if his parents get pushy about "losing us for eternity" Lol
I am so glad Mr. Bednar cleared this up for everybody. What this is really all about is using fear tactics to keep your kids in Mormonism. Fear that you will not see them in the afterlife unless they are endowed(paying) members.
On the other hand, he would do such a superb job of alienating so many people that the church just might collapse in upon itself.
Way to go, Pickle-Dude!
I keep thinking about that little boy he dragged onto the carpet and belittled about how not reading the scriptures would lure the boy into Satan's hands. The poor kid was crying, but did Bednar back off? No way. I despise him for that.
Every unofficial (and official for that matter) thing I have heard about Bednar has indicated he is one of the more terrible apostles, up their with Boyd F. Packer.
There is no reason to go see him (though many of the family think he is someone of the Lord): it seems he is coming to confirm the new stake president, later in March.
Can you "egg" in church?
Should I bring my whoopee cushion and sit up front?
Too bad there is not a Q&A before the meeting... but then again, it's Mormonism, so maybe people don't want answers. Questions would scare the most of them. It's something Mormons don't do every day... in fact, for many, hardly ever.
He couldn't have a straight answer anyway, he is so crooked.
Pack ideas? Thoughts on pranks? I didn't say I'm going. (But if I do- there will be a telling of it here afterwards).
What would you do (or want to do at least) if you were unfortunate so much as to see the creep?
So old Orson spoke from the grave. What's the big deal?
tenaciousd Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Jesus. Not only is Bednar an idgit but LDS must > not have any copyeditors. > > "...blah, blah, blah ... as Orson F. Whitney > (1855-1906) stated in 1929 ..." > > Evidently from the CK, no?
I know an old guy, really old by now, who was Bednar's seminary teacher. This was in California, so he was a part-time amateur teacher. Apparently Bednar was a somewhat rebellious youth. When that type of personality decides to conform, he often does it in the most obnoxious possible way.
I always expected he was an extremist ; the type who can't go to a normal mainline church, or not go to church at all and still be a good person. He has to either be evil incarnate or be an extreme adherent to some organization like Mo'ism, JWism, 7th-Day Adventism, Scientology, or funky fundyism.
Historischer Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I know an old guy, really old by now, who was > Bednar's seminary teacher. This was in California, > so he was a part-time amateur teacher. Apparently > Bednar was a somewhat rebellious youth. When that > type of personality decides to conform, he often > does it in the most obnoxious possible way.
Bednar along with his cronies. Aren't there some choice personalities among the Black Suits? They make me cringe with their smugness, arrogance and self-righteousness.
I attempt to think of members believing beyond a shadow of a doubt that the sun rises and sets with these guys and it blows my mind. The Black Suits believe when they walk up to the podium and open their mouths and words pour forth, that all should sit up and pay attention just because they made the effort to open their traps.
It's the attitude and the oh, so reveeerent--apostle-speak that makes me want to turn a fireman's hose on them.