Only in Utah!

So!

I walked into my workplace at 6:59 AM on a Monday morning about two weeks ago with my just purchased Grande Hot Latte from Starbucks, and my coworker says to me in a jovial voice, “Hey Bob, still drinking that sin water I see”.

He said the same thing to me about 8 years ago. I responded, “you know, the entire US Navy, and all the other branches of the armed forces would collapse in a week if you took away their coffee."

I meant it as a witty reply (best I could come up with after only a sip or two of my sin water) but it went right over his head. For myself, I spent 4 years Active Duty in the US Navy so my reply is backed by some experience and merit. At about the same time as my service he was selling the BOM door to door in England for 2 years.

And in his eyes, I am somehow “less worthy”, because I did not serve a Mormon Mission nor am I Mormon. That attitude kind of pisses me off! (Something TBM’s should take note of and learn).

Which life experience has more merit? I will leave that one for the reader, but for me as a young man headed for trouble, that 4 years in the US Navy (Petty Officer 2 Class) was the best thing that ever happened to me!

Otherwise, my coworker is a brilliant man in electrical engineering, he does at times have a good sense of humor, actively contributes to the Company’s bottom line, served his mission faithfully (and in many ways still serving), and the Church seemed fit to make him a Bishop of a Northern Utah ward for a few years.

He is also immature, emotionally stunted, naïve, socially mal-adjusted, misogynistic, and comes across as arrogant to 60% of his co-workers (the other 40% are of course of LDS Culture). For me, he would be the last person I would ever seek advice or counseling from for help with a personal problem. (How in the hell does the Church pick their leaders and confidants.)

For all The True Believing Mormons out there, take it from me, your righteousness and holier-than-thou-attitude is NOT appreciated, nor is it respected despite what you may have heard.

I, for the life of me, cannot understand how so many people can be so smart and so stupid at the same time.

Oh Well. Live goes on.

in b 4 ~ ¿ still drinking that sin water OPie ? ~

"Hey Bob, still drinking that sin water I see”.

(Shrug) "strongly prefer Jack Daniels straight up - but with so many frangible snowflakes around -- gotta stick with this cr@p"

He won't be able to resist a reply or a "huh?" (rich opportunity to counter-huh mercilessly) so - suddenly develop an intense interest in your nails or change the subject. If he persists grin straight at him: "dude - you are just like my EX - girlfriend." Have fun.

Info:

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/the-latest-scoop-on-the-health-benefits-of-coffee-2017092512429

C'mon bro - he's a dweeb. A man doesn't start that kind of game. He's weak. So be selective. Don't play his game.



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 04/12/2018 09:23PM by zenjamin.

Coffee/tea:
Sin water
The Dirty baptism


Weed:
The devil's lettuce
Covenant collapsing cauliflower
Brigham's broccoli


Alcohol:
Satan's syrup
Bastard Brew

blackriflecoffee is a veteran-owned and operated Utah company. Show him what alpha males consume!

One of my SIL loves Blackriflecoffee but tells me they are moving out of Utah. I have no conformation of this however.

After my first term of military service I tried to go on a mission. My stake president, a marine who was wounded in WWII told me my servicd to my contry was sufficient and that in his experience military folks had a hard time adjusting to the mission rules. He advised me not to go. Gave me a month to think it over.

About a week later, I was in the ward lobby with a group of friends. The missionaries were forming an institute class. They pointed to each girl, even the younger high school ones anf invited them. Then they pointed to each male inviting them and purposely skipping me.

I asked if I was invited. They said no, I was not worthy because I had wasted my time in the military and they only wanted returned or prospective missionaries.

Then he said since I had probably killed at least one innocent person, I was damned to the telestial kingdom.

I am not sure the exactly what happened next but I realized I had the SOB pinned to the wall with my arm across his throat. I won't type what I said but it was along the line of how he was ungrateful to those that gave their lives for their ccountry and I listed every friend thst was killed and how they died.

I watched him sobbing and I realized that no one had tried to pull me off of him.

As I let him go and turned around I saw several men facing the crowd. Every one of them a veteran. Nonone dared cross their line.

The one said Sergeant Heartless are you done?

I said yes sir and he put his arm around me and escorted me from the chapel.

I kind of figured at that point I wasn't missionary material.

Those are weak men, the Mormon leaders. I served in the Army myself, and I could never go back to those simpering cowards who buff the pews with their soft asses.

Sergeant Heartless, I salute you.

That was one of the most touching stories I have ever read.

Thank you for your service. From the heart, not just robo-babble.

> For all The True Believing Mormons out there, take
> it from me, your righteousness and
> holier-than-thou-attitude is NOT appreciated, nor
> is it respected despite what you may have heard.
>
> I, for the life of me, cannot understand how so
> many people can be so smart and so stupid at the
> same time.
>
> Oh Well. Live goes on.

It runs rather deeper than that in Mormon doctrine (or it did when I was last 'in' some 18 years ago).

It was very widely taught that during the Millennium, after Christ returns, that the Mormons would be running the entire show.

That's not just Utah. Not just religious aspects.

The entire world would be governed by - and be utterly subservient to - The Church.

Every single facet of Day-to-day-existence would be overseen by the Mormons.

This was to be their manifest destiny; to rule the World.

Given the propagation of such attitudes, smugness (to put it mildly) is not surprising as a general result.

in b 4 ~ ¿ is this u OPie ? ~


https://youtu.be/xaE_6rRHmd0?t=2

The appropriate response: And you're still an @sshole, I see.

Ask him how his Jesus Jammies fit.

>> “Hey Bob, still drinking that sin water I see”.

Hey coworker, still drinking that Kool-Aid I see.

or

But I'm still a good person.

or

Hey coworker, still being nosy and judgmental I see.

or

Hey Coworker, still being ignorant I see. Are you aware that research indicates that the potential health benefits associated with drinking coffee include protecting against type 2 diabetes, Parkinson's disease, liver disease, liver cancer, and promoting a healthy heart?

>still drinking that Kool-Aid I see.<

I like that.

"Still paying tithing loser?"
"I saw the best porn clip this past weekend..."
"Yeah I need a coffee to recover from all the fun things I did on Sunday"
"You know whats the best thing about not being a brainwashed cult dickhead? Drinking coffee."

'he was selling the BOM door to door in England for 2 years'

Trust me, selling the BOM in England is no easy task.

perdition Wrote:
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> 'he was selling the BOM door to door in England
> for 2 years'
>
> Trust me, selling the BOM in England is no easy
> task.
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OP - as the man of chivalry he is - kindly and honorably defends the perpetrator.


Sometimes a dick is just a dick.
- But the Residual Inner Mormon (RIM) makes us afraid to CALL him a dick.


See:

We have to Be Nice.
We have to Be Liked.
We have to Be Civilized.
We have to Love Everybody.
We have to Second Guess Ourselves.
We have to Third Guess Ourselves.
We have to Fourth Guess Ourselves.
We have to Fifth Guess Ourselves.
We are not supposed to Defend Ourselves.
We are Not Worthy.
We have Zero Rights.
The problem is Always Me.
Please like me.
Please respect me.
Your opinion about me Matters So.
So I Turn the Other Cheek; Bend Over and Smile; because I So Need to be Liked.

Rinse and Repeat.

The defense of the other and the abject surrender of the self is fully automatic.

And this is the problem.

With this internal mindset we are automatically already on the defense before even the first word; because we are trying to be okay in the eyes of the other.


Dicks are easy to defeat. So very easy. And it is perversely fun.
But to roll them, you have to have an absolute genuine internal confidence. To be able to Stand Alone.
You have to not care what they think. What ANYONE thinks.

You have to be an a$$hole.
Or at least coldly and uncompromisingly capable of selective precision-guided unmitigated a$$holiness.

YOU have to be the dick.


K!ll the Inner Mormon.




.

Well said, and after being swamped and slimmed in the MormonCult mindset, the words "Kill the inner Mormon" are poster words that should fill the bill boards of Utah and words that I hope to keep forefront in my little ole brain.

I had too much in the MormonCult and in my home of the, "Your opinion about me Matters So" indoctrination, coupled with the
arrogance, the superiority, and the so very insincere "caring" mindset.

I am able "most" of the time to say "FucK You". It has taken way tooooo long to be able to think those words let alone utter them, and still sometimes I jump right back into believing I have "Zero Right".

The MormonCult is so good at making us believe all we are good for is someone else deciding "if we are worthy". They get to say.

Well, I say FUCK THEM!

Indeed.

An air of zero annoyance and genuine Amused Mastery is particularly unnerving.

You're just playing.
Bit of unexpected entertainment and real amusement.

Imagine his face if you called him out on being a self-righteous prick. I'll be it would be priceless!

You described your coworker as "immature, emotionally stunted, naïve, socially mal-adjusted, misogynistic, and comes across as arrogant"

I work in Utah, and 4 or 5 of my Mormon coworkers have been bishops. You've described every one of them perfectly!

My manager always called us emplyees "children of a lesser God."

I told him "my God and Goddess (I am leaning towards Wicca and some Bhudisim) are loving and doesn't frown on my decision of drinking cofee. At least I don't down four Mountain Dews in a day like you do."

I ended up leaving that job. He assaulted me and nothing was done about it.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/13/2018 04:45PM by lazylizard.

>>and my coworker says to me in a jovial voice, “Hey Bob, still drinking that sin water I see”.

Would it be too horrible to respond, "And you are still a wanker, Ted"?

So, the God of the universe—-no, no. I mean the God of ALL CREATION appears to the primest examplar of humankind, and instead of telling Smith about radiation, air travel, cancer, that old-hat “love one another” nonsense, or all about STDs, he said, “Don’t Drink Coffee!”

“... and be sure to rape 14-year-olds.”
...



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/13/2018 07:15PM by kathleen.

I will pay $10 if Kathleen's post is read to the co-worker.

invinoveritas Wrote:
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> Only in Utah!
>
> So!
>
> I walked into my workplace at 6:59 AM on a Monday
> morning about two weeks ago with my just purchased
> Grande Hot Latte from Starbucks, and my coworker
> says to me in a jovial voice, “Hey Bob, still
> drinking that sin water I see”.

Oh! HELL NO!!! I have NOT taken the MORmON Sacrament in over 20 years. .....what made you think that there was MORmON sacrament water in this beverage cup ????? ......WHAT have YOU been drinking ???????

Try finding wotk elsewhere. Utah can be oppressing for non-Mormons. It was really bad in the past but it's now become more tolerant.