Devoted Exmo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > That's true. Given that, would you rather destroy > something that is against mormonism?
Badassadam1 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Devoted Exmo Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > What does that mean to you? > > No idea, that it doesn't take much to destroy a > board compared to a corporation.
People are hysterical. Don't listen to their stuff. Again, I hope you stay here, badassadam.
carameldreams Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Badassadam1 Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Devoted Exmo Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > What does that mean to you? > > > > No idea, that it doesn't take much to destroy a > > board compared to a corporation. > > People are hysterical. Don't listen to their > stuff. Again, I hope you stay here, badassadam.
I am not intellectual enough to stay here i don't think haha. I don't follow the mormon news like everyone else does to create topics about them. I'd rather just vent and get surgery, it's way more effective. Talking about apostles screwing more people over for tons of cash doesn't help my morale really especially because i am poor now. Giving money away thinking it would come back to me did not serve me well in life.
<huff> Yes, Adam, I'm your father. <huff> <huff> Your work destroying the evil board is complete. <huff> Please return to our planet and leave the earthlings alone. <huff> The church is true. <huff>
on the other thread and there have been times in the past that she has said some really great things to Adam and he has insulted her. She has always been one of my favorite posters as she is so wise in her posts. And StillAnon, I agree with you.
I won't be back to see what badass said to insult me yet again. Do we have to talk like our lives were the hell they were for him or others to believe that maybe, just maybe some of the rest of us have been there and have something to offer. We just obviously never had it as bad as badass and some others on the board. Come live my life. And then judge me.
Again, I won't be back to read what badass has to say to insult me yet again.
cl2notloggedin Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > on the other thread and there have been times in > the past that she has said some really great > things to Adam and he has insulted her. She has > always been one of my favorite posters as she is > so wise in her posts. And StillAnon, I agree with > you. > > I won't be back to see what badass said to insult > me yet again. Do we have to talk like our lives > were the hell they were for him or others to > believe that maybe, just maybe some of the rest of > us have been there and have something to offer. We > just obviously never had it as bad as badass and > some others on the board. Come live my life. And > then judge me. > > Again, I won't be back to read what badass has to > say to insult me yet again.
Don't remember insulting you but i am in pain 24/7. Reguardless of what anyone says i still have to fix myself somehow. I told my friend that i would. I have to deprogram and fix my body at the same time totally reguardless of what anyone says or does. I take the best advice i can find and then i use it. If people say the only way is to move away without telling a soul then i guess that is what i will have to do eventually when i am ready. I am pretty sure other people's recovery is not that brutal otherwise they wouldn't be ripping me a new one every two seconds. I did know it was going to get brutal if i was going to bring out the real me somehow that was buried. I will recover even if i have to start my own recovery site that allows you to speak your mind totally. I want to be able to speak my mind in the real world 24/7 because i was never allowed to for most of my life.
Dear Badass, although I mostly lurk these days (having posted my share of non-recovery related drivel over the years) I do read a lot of what you write.
I sincerely want to wish you well and hope you reach a point where you no longer feel the need to vent by lashing out emotionally.
Please understand that posts fraught with emotional pain can easily be misunderstood by your fellow posters here and I hope you can learn to forgive us when we do overreact.
Remember that we're all in this world of Mormon mindfuck together.
I think he should apologize when he insults fellow posters who try to help him rather than always getting a pass because he's in emotional pain. We are all in emotional pain. That's not a good enough excuse. Taking responsibility for your actions is a good step in recovery.
Devoted Exmo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I think he should apologize when he insults fellow > posters who try to help him rather than always > getting a pass because he's in emotional pain. We > are all in emotional pain. That's not a good > enough excuse. Taking responsibility for your > actions is a good step in recovery.
You can tell him that's what you think he should do. In fact, you just did. What you can't do is demand that he do that. And if he doesn't, and you want him off the board because he doesn't, that's YOUR problem.
Look, I'm not saying that some posters (and it's not just one) don't behave badly, and offend people. Of course that's the case. And I get that you don't like their behavior, and feel offended. Fine. But "ruin the board?" Tell them to stop posting? Demand they behave the way you want them to?
That doesn't fly. That's what mormonism did to badass. Let's do better.
If you're pissed off at him, then skip his posts. If you're pissed off at ME, skip MY posts. It's not that hard.
ificouldhietokolob Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Devoted Exmo Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I think he should apologize when he insults > fellow > > posters who try to help him rather than always > > getting a pass because he's in emotional pain. > We > > are all in emotional pain. That's not a good > > enough excuse. Taking responsibility for your > > actions is a good step in recovery. > > You can tell him that's what you think he should > do. In fact, you just did. > What you can't do is demand that he do that. And > if he doesn't, and you want him off the board > because he doesn't, that's YOUR problem. > > Look, I'm not saying that some posters (and it's > not just one) don't behave badly, and offend > people. Of course that's the case. And I get > that you don't like their behavior, and feel > offended. Fine. But "ruin the board?" Tell them > to stop posting? Demand they behave the way you > want them to? > > That doesn't fly. That's what mormonism did to > badass. Let's do better. > > If you're pissed off at him, then skip his posts. > If you're pissed off at ME, skip MY posts. It's > not that hard.
Forcing and making demands is the mormon way. It is what i know. Probably why i have a hard time listening to anything someone says and not putting them among the mormon category. Is there a better way than making demands? Maybe? People seem to want to control you even outside a religion. Human nature maybe to want to control another? I always want to see how free i actually am before getting torn apart and not conforming to what people want. Is the badass actually free in this world with real human rights? Not really and i haven't even tested it very far. Do i count among the billions here? Most people won't think i count as high as them. They think they have a higher right to live than i do or something. Like it's their planet and no one elses. Well i don't care what you make a year you are no better than the homeless that still may have their souls. And you may even be below the homeless as far as a human being goes. I feel guilty the system sucks and can't rebuild them out of poverty that's for sure. When a small handful are benefiting off people's back like in mormonism. The system sucks. Just quit trying to control people to get their money and that's all i am saying. One man does not need a billion dollars i am sorry i don't fall into that nonsense that he didn't shank people to get there. He shanked and he called it business that's what he did. Their is no way its going to last much longer though. Start bartering i know i have been.
Devoted Exmo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I think he should apologize when he insults fellow > posters who try to help him rather than always > getting a pass because he's in emotional pain. We > are all in emotional pain. That's not a good > enough excuse. Taking responsibility for your > actions is a good step in recovery.
Apologizing is like submitting in the temple in my crazy head. Although i think i am sorry, i won't say it anymore. Who said sorry to me for the events of my life? not a soul. I can't get anybody to say they are sorry. Talked to my dad on the phone last night for the first time in a long time and told him i had to get a bone spur removed from my throat next month. He said that was a strange place to have a bone spur and i said yea that's what the doctor said. The doctor asked if i'd ever been strangled and i said yea. My father knew exactly what i was talking about and exactly when it happened. He still has never apologized for that event, even talking to him on the phone last night because i might need financial help to survive. I have to do a deal with the devil to survive right now financially and it sucks. He will cover up and defend that church till the day he dies i have accepted.
"You can tell him that's what you think he should do. In fact, you just did. What you can't do is demand that he do that. And if he doesn't, and you want him off the board because he doesn't, that's YOUR problem."
Did I demand that he do anything? And did I say that if he doesn't I want him off the board? No. You said those things.
Devoted Exmo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > And did I say > that if he doesn't I want him off the board? No. > You said those things.
No, I didn't. Many other posters did, in this and the other thread.
> I simply called on him to own up to his behavior.
Then he doesn't. And he burns bridges and fewer people are willing to help. That's all. I don't think those things are in Adam's best interests. If he's here for help, it would be better if he didn't insult those trying to give him the help he needs.
"Did I demand that he do anything? And did I say that if he doesn't I want him off the board? No. You said those things. I simply called on him to own up to his behavior."
Which is what a lot of want. But, narcissists don't admit fault, nor own up to their behavior.
StillAnon Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "Did I demand that he do anything? And did I say > that if he doesn't I want him off the board? No. > You said those things. > I simply called on him to own up to his > behavior." > > Which is what a lot of want. But, narcissists > don't admit fault, nor own up to their behavior.
Not a narcissist i think i just copy one because i was raised by one. Do i copy what was shown to me? Yes. Being around a true narcissist most of your life is a crazy thing. It is all you've seen and all you know really. That religion breeds narcissists so i thought that was normal. It's hard not to become the exact thing that tried to break you.
I don't read many of your posts adam but I've never known you to be disrespectful to anyone here. Your posts are interesting in that you say what you are thinking without mincing words. We are all at different points of recovery in our journey.
I can appreciate what you have been through and your struggle to recover. You seem like a genuinely good person fighting to recover from a difficult situation. From my perspective you're not destroying the board. The hecklers do that. Learn to ignore the hecklers.
Felix Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I don't read many of your posts adam but I've > never known you to be disrespectful to anyone > here. Your posts are interesting in that you say > what you are thinking without mincing words. We > are all at different points of recovery in our > journey. > > I can appreciate what you have been through and > your struggle to recover. You seem like a > genuinely good person fighting to recover from a > difficult situation. From my perspective you're > not destroying the board. The hecklers do that. > Learn to ignore the hecklers.
I am trying to recover and i am recovering despite what people think. If it seems brutal i am sorry i am trying to fix my body and my mental weaknesses at the same time and figure out my financial situation to keep going also. I noticed that the more i type and speak what is in my exact mind at the time the better i have been becoming. Walking on eggshells and mincing words won't get me anywhere i learned. There is a lot of crap that got put into my head to control me that i have been trying to clear out and it is a battle. I want all religious crap out of my head if possible until it is just me standing. It is true that i thought i would be a recovered person by now but i am not and sir david the bard said you never recover from the evil that had been done to you and i think he may be right. It's like a rape, you never fully recover from a rape.
1) I just got back yesterday after a very long absence, so I don't really know what's going on and the sins involved.
2) Nobody's going to destroy the board, that's what we have moderators for. If I remember correctly, if we have a personal dig at someone on the board, we either have to suck it up, or notify the administrators. Not air out all the dirty laundry in front of everyone.
3) Just calm down everybody, ok? It's just words in the internet, it shouldn't spoil anybody's day.