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Posted by: koriwhore ( )
Date: March 28, 2015 04:59PM

Yes He does, according to highly paid Mormon apologists,

http://en.fairmormon.org/Book_of_Abraham/Joseph_Smith_Papyri/Facsimiles/Facsimile_2/Identification_of_the_ithyphallic_Egyptian_god_%22Min%22_as_%22God_sitting_upon_his_throne%22

Question: Is the representation of Min actually Egyptian "pornography"?

"This attitude demonstrates not only an immaturity about sexuality, but it also a misunderstanding of ancient Egyptian religion
To answer this question about Facsimile 2 figure 7, the first thing we need to disabuse is that it constitutes "pornography" because it shows the deity with an erect phallus. This attitude demonstrates not only an immaturity about sexuality, but it also a misunderstanding of ancient Egyptian religion. The characterization of this as "pornography" is grossly inappropriate. The Egyptians would almost certainly have not conceived of this figure on the hypocephalus as "pornographic" in the way most people understand the word. This attitude reflected by some is a good example of how our modern, sexually-obsessed society can easily misinterpret religious art. We see an erect penis in a drawing and think "pornography," whereas an ancient Egyptian would have seen one and thought of fertility, virility and life. Hence the depiction of Min with an erection was a sign of his life-giving ability. We have analogies in Northwest Semitic depictions of God. (El is both called and depicted as a virile bull in the Ugaritic texts, both because of his procreative powers and his greatness over the other gods.)"

lol

What did God say about worshiping the Gods of the Egyptians, who enslaved God's Chosen People?

Joseph's Myth violates the 1st & 2nd Commandment out of God's mouth....“I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. “You shall have no other gods before me. “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments." Exodus 20:2-6

And Mormons violate God's main commandment every day they have a picture of Min with a hard on, identified as God in their scriptures, and they're worried about porn shoulders causing their young men to rape women? I'd say they have a lot bigger things to worry about.

"6 If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, 7 gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), 8 do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. 9 You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. 10 Stone them to death, because they tried to turn you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. 11 Then all Israel will hear and be afraid, and no one among you will do such an evil thing again." Dueteronomy 13



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Posted by: Senoritalamanita ( )
Date: March 28, 2015 05:09PM

"the first thing we need to disabuse is that it constitutes "pornography" because it shows the deity with an erect phallus. This attitude demonstrates not only an immaturity about sexuality, but it also a misunderstanding of ancient Egyptian religion."

Yes, it's only Egyptian pornography, if he "disabuses" himself while sitting on the throne. Spilling his seed is a definite no, no.

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Posted by: koriwhore ( )
Date: March 28, 2015 05:20PM

I find it curious that of all the Gods Joseph had to choose from, he fingers the one with the biggest erection as the one and only Elohim, a euphamism for "Min" perhaps?

It's not like the legend of the Egyptian's fertility God, Min, never disappeared from the local library.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Min_%28god%29#Myths_and_function

"As a god of male sexual potency, he was honoured during the coronation rites of the New Kingdom, when the Pharaoh was expected to sow his seed — generally thought to have been plant seeds, although there have been controversial suggestions that the Pharaoh was expected to demonstrate that he could ejaculate — and thus ensure the annual flooding of the Nile.

At the beginning of the harvest season, his image was taken out of the temple and brought to the fields in the festival of the departure of Min, when they blessed the harvest, and played games naked in his honour, the most important of these being the climbing of a huge (tent) pole.

In Egyptian art, Min was depicted as being covered in shrouds, wearing a crown with feathers, and often holding his penis erect in his left hand and a flail (referring to his authority, or rather that of the Pharaohs) in his upward facing right hand.
Around his forehead, Min wears a red ribbon that trails to the ground, claimed by some to represent sexual energy. The symbols of Min were the white bull, a barbed arrow, and a bed of lettuce, that the Egyptians believed to be an aphrodisiac, as Egyptian lettuce was tall, straight, and released a milk-like substance when rubbed, characteristics superficially similar to the penis.

Even some war goddesses were depicted with the body of Min (including the phallus), and this also led to depictions, ostensibly of Min, with the head of a lioness.

Because Min usually was depicted in an ithyphallic (with an erect phallus) style, Christians routinely defaced his monuments in temples they co-opted and Victorian Egyptologists would take only waist-up photographs of him, or otherwise find ways to cover his protruding penis. However, to the ancient Egyptians, Min was not a matter of scandal - they had very relaxed standards of nudity: in their warm climate, farmers, servants, and entertainers often worked partially or completely naked, and children did not wear any clothes until they came of age.



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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: March 28, 2015 05:28PM

Senoritalamanita Wrote:
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> Yes, it's only Egyptian pornography, if he
> "disabuses" himself while sitting on the throne.

I think you are using the wrong word here. Just saying from someone who has self abused and self disabused a lot.

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Posted by: Senoritalamanita ( )
Date: March 28, 2015 05:37PM

Elder Berry,

I was trying to be a proper "lady" by using the term "disabusing", lol.

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: March 29, 2015 05:18PM

I'll consider myself disabused by you :)

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Posted by: Templar ( )
Date: March 28, 2015 05:18PM

Perhaps that's really Joseph Smith's view of what gods do in heaven. I would imagine that it will require one hell of a lot of intercourse to produce enough "spirit children" to populate your own earth.

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Posted by: verilyverily ( )
Date: March 28, 2015 05:20PM

Remember that the main focus of the CULT is to keep many wives and teen-aged girls pregnant constantly. You do need to have a constant erection to be able to do this so the CULT god should reveal what the CULT is all about, right?

I am trying to be a smart-ass apologist. How am I doing?

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Posted by: koriwhore ( )
Date: March 28, 2015 06:22PM

So if your erection lasts longer than 4 hours, you don't have to consult a physician if you're a God, like Joseph's Myth, you gotta get busy servicing your harem of heavenly whores!!!
Why does Joseph's Myth seem more and more to me like a cross between Caligula and Hugh Heffner as time passes?

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Posted by: verilyverily ( )
Date: March 29, 2015 12:36AM

"The Mormon God is an exalted man with flesh and bone who has sex with multiple wives producing billions of children."

Don't you mean "The Mormon God is an exalted man with flesh and A BONER who has sex with multiple wives producing billions of children?

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Posted by: verilyverily ( )
Date: March 29, 2015 12:42AM

In defense of Shummy, the CULT is a sex cult. Most of the issues in the CULT have to do with sex. You mentioned polygamy as a separate issue but polygamy is all about sex.

The financial transparency is not about sex OK but most of the CULT is of a sexual nature. JS didn't think about much else and that is the bottom line since he is the founder. Breedum Young either.

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Posted by: donbagley ( )
Date: March 28, 2015 06:46PM

Not to go over viagra falls in a barrel over it, but didn't they said the very erect would be deceived? They mean to fool God Himself.

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Posted by: Shummy ( )
Date: March 28, 2015 07:10PM

Only known statuary of Joseph of Egypt (also known as Horus the Horny):


http://tribes.tribe.net/ca5d5d8b-2e38-438c-bc75-3a57c11a5781/photos/04dcea39-2ec6-443d-8077-e46ede82250a

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Posted by: koriwhore ( )
Date: March 28, 2015 07:25PM

There is a controversy concerning the fact that Joseph Smith, the founder of Mormonism once identified a depiction of Min (including erect penis) as 'God'. This depiction was included in the Mormon text Pearl of Great Price.

Correction: This depiction IS Still included in Mormon text, Figure 7, Facsimile 2, Book of Abraham.

Also, he didn't 'once identify a depiction of Min (Including erect penis) as 'God', he DREW a representation of God, (Including erect penis) as 'Min'.

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Posted by: koriwhore ( )
Date: March 28, 2015 07:15PM


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Posted by: Zeezromp ( )
Date: March 28, 2015 07:16PM

The Mormon God is an exalted man with flesh and bone who has sex with multiple wives producing billions of children.

Brigham Young taught that this Mormon God 'Elohim' cane down in flesh and boner for a one night stand with Mary the young girl.

It all fits theologically well with Smith's facsimile 2 declaration of the God of Mormonism.

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Posted by: koriwhore ( )
Date: March 28, 2015 07:28PM

“The birth of the Saviour was as natural as are the births of our children; it was the result of natural action. He partook of flesh and blood – was begotten of his Father, as we were of our fathers.” Brigham Young, Journal of discourses vol. 8, page 115

I wonder if she could walk after taking that super human flesh?

http://www.touregypt.net/images/touregypt/whitechapel7.jpg



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Posted by: Zeezromp ( )
Date: March 28, 2015 08:35PM

“... I believe the Father came down from heaven, as the Apostles said he did, and begat the Saviour of the world; for he is the ONLY-begotten of the Father, which could not be if the Father did not actually beget him in person.... I believe the Father came down in His tabernacle and begat Jesus Christ.”
(Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 1, p. 238)



To make this sex Holy and acceptable Brigham Young has Mary and Elohim married in some Mormon style Polyandrous relationship.



“This matter was a little changed in the case of the Savior of the world, the Son of the living God. The man Joseph, the husband of Mary, did not, that we know of, have more than one wife, but Mary the wife of Joseph had another husband. On the manger, was begotten, not by Joseph, the husband of Mary, but by another Being. Do you inquire by whom? He was begotten by God our heavenly Father”.
(Journal of Discourses 11 p268, Brigham Young, August 19, 1866)

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Posted by: steve benson ( )
Date: March 28, 2015 07:38PM

Joseph Smith's supposedly "divinely-revealed" Book of Abraham stands as undeniable proof of Smith’s use and abuse of pagan Egypt’s sex-saturated artwork. Although the Mormon Church publicly proclaims that this piece of purported "holy writ" is the divinely-delivered Word of God, truth be told, it reflects the perverted world of Smith, who made it all up to promote his carnival-barker charade and to justify his personal promiscuity.

Let's get down to the bed of the matter.

1. Chain of Custody of Ancient Egyptian Papryi and How They Came into Eventual Possession by Joseph Smith

In July 1835, Joseph Smith purchased a collection of Egyptian papyri and some mummies from a traveling salesman named Michael H. Chandler, when the latter was traveling through the then-Mormon Church headquarters of Kirtland, Ohio, peddling his wares.

The collection which Smith bought from Chandler contained ancient Egyptian papyri that had initially been discovered in Thebes by Antonio Lebolo, who then sold them to Chandler who, in turn, ended up selling them to Smith.

In 1966, portions of this Smith parchment collection (thought to have been destroyed in the great Chicago fire of 1871) were unexpectedly discovered in the New York Metropolitan Museum of Art by a University of Utah researcher and gifted a year later to the Mormon Church.

Now actual scientific examination of the true nature of the papyri could be performed, instead of merely taking Smith's weasly word for it.

Recall that after Chandler sold these papyri to Smith, the Mormon Church's founding fraudster emphatically declared their hieroglyphic symbols to be the original handwritten words of the Biblical prophet Abraham--accounts which Smith claimed were written by Abraham some 4,000 years earlier.

However, professional Egyptologists have since independently translated these papyri and dated them accurately. Unfortunately for Smith and his myth-produced Mormon Church, their contents do not conform in any reasonable or evidentiary fashion to the contents Smith said he "translated" into English.

Rather, the papyri actually find origination in the well-known and historically common ancient Egyptian "Book of Breathings," an Egyptian magic-myth relating to funeral rites performed on their dead, including the embalming of corpses. The papyri also contain now-familiar ancient Egyptian mythological tales involving various gods and goddesses, including fantasy accounts of the anticipated resurrection of the Egyptian god Osiris.

Modern-day Egyptian scholars have reliably dated these scrolls back to the first century A.D.--nearly 2,000 years after Smith falsely claimed that Abraham had personally handwritten them on Egyptian parchment.


2, Sex, Lies and Storied Fakes

For purposes of this examination, note is made that various segments of the purchased papyri in possession of Smith actually depict ancient Egypt's pagan gods in various scenarios of sexual arousal.

For instance, a portion of Smith's papyri collection that he dishonestly claimed "represent[ed] God sitting upon his throne," have, in reality, been identified by reputable modern-day Egyptian scholars as the god Min.

Enter the sex-driven mind of Smith and the minds of his ancient Egyptian sex-set designers.

"Min is an 'ithyphallic god, that is, a sexually-aroused male deity. His erect penis is clearly shown. It's interesting to note that in some earlier editions of the Book of Abraham the [Mormon] Church erased the penis so it wouldn't look pornographic. It has since been restored in our current versions.

"But isn't it somewhat disturbing that Joseph [Smith] would say that this pagan god with his exposed penis is our Heavenly Father?"

("Comparison of the Facsimiles as Interpreted by Joseph [Smith] and What Egyptologists Say They Mean," by Kevin Mathie, in "Examining the Book of Abraham," at: http://www.mormonthink.com/book-of-abraham-issues.htm#comparison)


Say it ain't so, Joe!

But, alas, it is.

These staged sex scenes, as will literally be seen, are part of a common theme running through the supposed personal journals of the prophet Abraham--scenes which Smith described as divinely-revealed Mormon God doctrine--mixed in with Father Abraham's supposed personal narrative detailing his courageous efforts to escape sacrificial death at the hands of the wicked Pharaoh’s priestly class.


3. Original Sex-Fantasy Facsimile #1

The original Facsimile #1 (before it was disfigured by Smith and Company to include non-god, humanized, cut-and-pasted, recreated Egyptian priests attempting to knife to death Abraham) actually depicts--in ancient Egyptian form--the mythologized representation of the Egyptian god Osiris being embalmed and brought back from the dead.

Notice that in this scene Osiris is seen gripping his erect phallus:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_iRE1f7T37Zk/SksrO0mCvDI/AAAAAAAAALs/kjNNfswFKD8/s400/9.


4. Original Sex-Fantasy Facsimile #2

The original Facsimile #2 (before it was chopped, mutilated and relocated by Smith and Company to depict their preferred brand of invented storyline) is a representation--again, in ancient Egyptian form--of an amulet used in preparing the bodies of the dead--with the charm being hung around the neck of the deceased.

Pictured on the amulet is the above-described Egyptian god Min displaying his erect phallus.

Even supreme Mormon apologist Hugh Nibley admits that this figure is indeed the ancient, sexually engorged Egyptian god known as Min:

"As the supreme sex symbol of gods and men, Min behaves with shocking promiscuity, which is hardly relieved by its ritual nature. . . . His sacred plants were aphrodisiacal . . . and he is everywhere represented as indulging in incestuous relationships with those of his immediate family; he had the most numerous and varied religious entourage of all the gods, consisting mostly of his huge harem. . . . The hymns, or rather chanting of his worshippers, were accompanied with lewd dancing and carousing . . .to the exciting stimulus of a band of sistrum-shaking damsels."

(Hugh Nibley, "Abraham in Egypt," p. 210; cited in Mathie, "Comparisons of the Facsimiles," at: http://www.mormonthink.com/book-of-abraham-issues.htm#comparison


This particular graphic display is located in the lower right portion of the amulet's ancient Egyptian rendition and is labeled as Figure 7. As shown below, its original presentation was upside-down:

http://nathanrichardson.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Abraham-facsimile-21.png (in lower right portion, upside down)


Here is the same depiction, now zoomed in, and repositioned right-side up:

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.conchisle.com%2Fjw5.gif&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.conchisle.com%2Fpg.htm&docid=Z7ePK0K1jwMkKM&tbnid=fXmWU8nu18z0CM%3A&w=402&h=179&ei=Ed1yUcGvDrSv4AOdvIDgAg&ved=0CAIQxiAwAA&iact=rics


Again, the same ancient Egyptian rendering, zoomed in:

http://www.conchisle.com/jw5.gif


(Note: At present, there is no known photograph of Smith's original Facsimile #2 because the actual original has not been located. An inaccurately-rendered drawing of the original does exist but to assist in depicting the original figures on this facsimile as they may well have looked, a similar hypocephalus is located in the British Museum, seen here at: http://www.bookofabraham.com/boamathie/BOA_art/Hypocephalus.jpg)


Smith boldly declared this ancient Egyptian sex god Min to actually be the Mormon God in the act of reigning from his divine seat of power in a sexually-aroused state:

"It must be remembered that Joseph Smith said that this figure represented God sitting on His throne! Incredible as it may seem, intelligent, well-read LDS are fully aware of the true nature of the hypocephalus, including the presence of Min and [the Egyptian god] Nehebka (the vast majority of LDS, however, are not).How do they explain this?

"Mormon Egyptologist Michael Dennis Rhodes said:

"'Joseph Smith mentions here the Holy Ghost in the form of a dove and God "revealing through the heavens the grand key-words of the priesthood." The procreative forces, receiving unusual accentuation throughout the representation, may stand for many divine generative powers, not least of which might be conjoined with blessing of the Priesthood in one’s posterity eternally

(Michael D. Rhodes, 'BYU Studies,' Spring 1977, p. 273).


"In other words, since the God of Mormonism is sexually active, begetting children in the spirit-world (indeed, God’s power is often described by Mormons as being made of the power of the priesthood and the power of procreation), and Min is obviously sexually active as well, this then is the 'connection.'"


5. What All This Says About the Sexually-Driven Mormon "Prophet" Joseph Smith and His Obsession with Pornographic Ancient Egyptian Art

What it says is that Smith was a pure and simple fraud wannbe artist, who was possessed of a seriously messed-up mind:

". . . Joseph Smith was utterly ignorant of what was represented in the Egyptian papyri that lay before him. Incapable of translating the figures, he made things up as he went along, claiming God’s direction and inspiration as his guide. In the process he demonstrated his own inability as a 'prophet, seer and revelator,' for he grossly misidentified each of the items . . . in [all three] [f]acsimile[s] . . . .

"Joseph Smith’s defenders today seek to find any connection whatsoever between LDS belief and Egyptian religion, even to the point of seeing in the sexually-aroused Min a picture of God upon His throne.

"But to grasp at this straw is to ignore the Biblical testimony to the [Bible's version of the] one true God. [According the Old Testament], Isaiah saw God upon His throne in Isaiah 6:1-10, but instead of an incestuous god surrounded by lewd dancing girls, the angels surrounded His throne and cried, 'Holy, holy, holy.'

"God describes the gods of Egypt as 'idols' that tremble before him (Isaiah 9:1); these false gods will literally be captured by God in His wrath (Jeremiah 43:12). God reveals the worship of these gods to be an abomination that brings His wrath (Jeremiah 44:8), and mentions one Egyptian god by name in speaking of the punishment he will bring against Egypt (Jeremiah 46:25). Those who worship such gods are 'defiled' in God’s sight (Ezekiel 20:7-8).

"The Bible has nothing but contempt for the gods of Egypt, which would include the abominable figure of Min, identified by Joseph Smith as his God.

" . . . [T]here is [admittedly] a similarity between the pagan god Min and the Mormon doctrine of God developed in the later years of Joseph Smith’s life.

"What is equally clear is that the God of the Bible is not similar to either Min, nor the LDS God. As God Himself said:

"'To whom will you compare me?' (Isaiah 40:25)

(Kevin Mathie, "Comparisons of the Facsimiles," at: http://www.mormonthink.com/book-of-abraham-issues.htm#comparison)


6. Joseph Smith and Mormonism's God of the Groin

Joseph Smith not only compared his Egyptian papyri-revealed Mormon God to ancient sex-obsessed Egyptian pagan deities, he went even further by declaring that these horny Egyptian mythed-up sex gods were, in fact, in some cases actual representations of the Mormon God in the flesh.

Which, historically speaking, shouldn't be surprising since Mormon-Church inventor Joseph Smith was quite the horn dog himself.

Smith simply created his own sexed-up "scriptural" storyline to justify his personal promiscuous behavior.

Min would have been so proud of him.

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True-Believing Mormons--who profess to live by a higher moral code than the sinful world around them--faithfully follow, as their God's "revealed" word, the crude, ripped-off, pornographic doodlings drawn and/or traced by their lewdly “living” prophet, Joseph Smith. Mormonism is a strange, hypocritical, occultic world rooted in primitive pagan pornography. Joseph Smith was a playboy and so are his Playboy "scriptures."

That's why they deserve to be drawn and quartered.



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Posted by: koriwhore ( )
Date: March 28, 2015 07:59PM

If the depiction of your God in your scriptures is NSFW,
perhaps your Doomsday Sex Cult is NSF your children.



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Posted by: koriwhore ( )
Date: December 04, 2016 05:34PM

Try telling that to a MORmON, LOL

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Posted by: Shummy ( )
Date: March 28, 2015 07:52PM

I remember when I toured there cracking up at many of the stone carvings of Min's member which were chisled away by medieval Muslim moralists, which gave the appearance of an even larger woodie, er stoney, as it were.



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Posted by: Shummy ( )
Date: March 28, 2015 09:24PM

> "I believe the Father came down in His tabernacle and begat Jesus Christ.”

Wait.

Really Brig?

He screwed her in the Tabernacle?

Is that where Warren Jeffs got his ideas?

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Posted by: Mormonkey ( )
Date: March 29, 2015 12:34AM

Dude, let it go. Every single post of yours is about the mormons being a sex cult and they worship Min the pahllic god. There are so many other things to talk about. So many other issues.

When you use that rhetoric you are not convincing any mormons. You are immediately labeled as anti.

And yes, there is sex involved. Yes Joseph Smith was horny and had to have sex with younger women. But calling it a sex cult is just ridiculous. I see your posts on other boards and this is all you talk about.

There are issues like financial transparency, and people shunning their family and polygamy and shopping malls, and lying and guilt and shame and you are over there in the corner like Beavis and Butthead tittering about erect penises.

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Posted by: lastofthewine ( )
Date: March 29, 2015 01:13AM

Who cares if Mormons might list him as anti. Sex cult is the perfect description. So much Mormon doctrine has been about sex to some degree, it's absurd. This isn't pander to the Mormons and hope to convince them, this is recovery from their bs. Everyone can be pissed about what they want to be.

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Posted by: Shummy ( )
Date: March 29, 2015 01:00AM

Well verily you are verily kind but methinks he was castigating my pal koriwhore. :O)

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Posted by: moose ( )
Date: March 30, 2015 01:24PM

the hypocephalus was probably Reformed Egyptian.

;^)

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