"I don't know what happened to this earth before Adam and eve, but I know .... We are all falling towards perpetual death ... With nothing to save us... Is this simply an existential exercise? No!!! I testify all things have been done...all was weighed for eternal happiness!!! Jesus would die in the meridian of time...providing eternal life to anyone...conditional on obedience to sacred principles."
So basically, obey me you idiots. Can you not see what and who I am????
At least he is mentioning Easter for you Christians out there.
" Jesus would die in the meridian of time...providing eternal life to anyone...conditional on obedience to sacred principles."
It's convenient how cults have good news of salvation but with a 'contractual clause' that is always bad news.
1.Pay us the minimum 10% for starters and pay more to show faithfulness if you are more greedy and gullible thinking more dollars will come your way.(Prosperity Gospel BS).
2.Obey and believe us (even if we are full of BS and wrong as history has shown continually).
3.Recruit non member friends and family every day. Give them Milk before Meat (make it sound like a regular Christian church). Keep away from meat if possible. Deny meat if necessary.
4. Clean the crappers out (toilets).
5. If the prophet wants your wives as concubines, just do it and maybe hand over your daughters too.
6. If the prophets says burn down a newspaper press, then do it.
7. If the Prophet says Vote and Campaign to strip gays of their marriage civil rights, then do it.
I was on the way to the pharmacy to get meds for my honey who has a kidney stone and heard just a snippet of that talk.
The more he talked, the worse it got. What is he trying to say about the earth before Adam and Eve? Then he goes off about their bad decision that was actually good, cause it meant they could have kids. well, duh.
I agree, i think it is getting to him, but the question is, is he too baked into the morg to come out and admit it. I expect many have discovered the truth, but realised they are financially and socially better off dying quietly without kicking up a fuss.
I think they miss out on their real moment, the moment where they go down in history as the first to speak out in modern times and tell the truth. In doing this, ironically, i think they'd end up more famous and richer than staying in and yet enjoy the freedom of living with integrity and saving a lot of people from financial fraud and pointless servitude.
If Holland spoke out, i'm pretty sure he'd end up on Oprah, not to mention a bunch of other news and TV shows. He'd certainly get a book deal, that alone could be bigger than any LDS book to date as both members and non would read what he had to say.
He could also lead the charge on RFM and as a figure head of the exmo movement.
I think there is real potential for them and a real opportunity to turn from fraudster to public hero.
I can never figure out what Holland is saying. He uses so much analogy and metaphors and then lapses into crying and I still don't know what the heck he is talking about.
I wonder if he wants to sound really smart, but it never makes sense to me.
Maybe I am just not smart or in tune with the Spirit.
Thats why he is sooo loved by the TBM's. He acts like most of them in F&T at the pulpit. They totally can relare to his mimimi mingled with pseudosmart metaphors and analogies, that leaves every twisted TBM with a faceexpression of highest release and every at least halfway normal dude with a huge question mark.
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I think he knows what he is doing. I think him and Oaks have both united to be the real two top dogs in LDS Inc. right now.
Holland is taking the lead in getting leaders to accept "real truth" instead of simple truth and Oaks is taking the lead in public relations.
Holland is cleaning the inner vessel and Oaks is cleaning the outer vessel. And if Oaks winds up looking like Packer II all the better for Holland. He can be the good cop speaking to "the church" about what is really good and true.
I quit going to church before Holland was put into the twelve. Most of what I know about him is from this board. Although I think calling him "The dodo" fits, I'm curious as to why he's called that. I hope I'm not being a dodo by asking.
During the last US presidential election, a British journalist did a stroy on Mormonism (related to a certain candidate's beliefs). As part of that story, he interviewed Holland. During that interview Jeffy stated "I'm no dodo". You can find the interview on youtube, but I'm too lazy to go find it.