https://www.space.com/9593-einstein-biggest-blunder-turns.html

"What Einstein called his worst mistake, scientists are now depending on to help explain the universe.

In 1917, Albert Einstein inserted a term called the cosmological constant into his theory of general relativity to force the equations to predict a stationary universe in keeping with physicists' thinking at the time. When it became clear that the universe wasn't actually static, but was expanding instead, Einstein abandoned the constant, calling it the '"biggest blunder" of his life.

But lately scientists have revived Einstein's cosmological constant (denoted by the Greek capital letter lambda) to explain a mysterious force called dark energy that seems to be counteracting gravity -- causing the universe to expand at an accelerating pace."

^=dE-dm

Cosmological Constant = dark Energy - dark matter

How much should we trust Einstein? He was a) fallible and b) around a long time ago in terms of scientific practice. I suppose he is mainly being mentioned here due to widespread public recognition.

Jordan Wrote:
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> How much should we trust Einstein? He was a)
> fallible and b) around a long time ago in terms of
> scientific practice. I suppose he is mainly being
> mentioned here due to widespread public
> recognition.
Because we don't really have a better way to explain things like gravity, black holes or why something as tiny as an atom has enough energy to destroy an entire city like Hiroshima.
Or why it takes that same amount of energy to hold electrons in orbit of atoms.
We trust him because there is no better explanation for what we can now observe, that Hubble hadnt looked far enough.
Now we have seen black holes with a telescope the size of Earth.
We can see what he predicted would be there, singularity at the center of everything.
We are just stardust that acreted on a spiral disk around the singularity, which is where we are all spinning in 3 directions/dimension, East/West, North/South, clockwise/counter clockwise, toward the great attractor/black hole, singularity/plasma jets, musical destiny.
Laneakea



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We don't trust Einstein. We can verify the theories he proposed and test them. His stuff continues to work.
Consider: we still teach Newtonian physics in the classroom even though Einstein demonstrated that Newton was wrong at the extremely small and extremely large scales. However, Newton's work is close enough for physics on the surface of the Earth.

Great way to put it.

Physicsly we stay away from the greatest and the smallest understanding of gravity yet mentally we think we can understand the existence of a universal God or the reality of a undetectable soul.

Our hubris is great.

"Trusting Einstein" isn't necessary.

He left behind voluminous records of his scientific musings, and the results of experiments based on his thoughts and insights, many of which are only now becoming accessible to general audiences.

(Remember that "we"--all of us, taken as a whole--can only understand what we have the capacity to understand....and much of Einstein's "thoughts" were SO far beyond where the ordinary "average" American was (or is even now), that it is only now that they can be more widely understood. This is applicable to humans anywhere on the planet. "Undiscovered" tribes in less traveled areas of the world used to be unable to understand photographs or radio transmissions, and today they can program computers. Their forebears two or three generations past would not have been able to do this, even if those forebears had been extremely highly intelligent, because those people did not yet possess the critical mass of knowledge required.)

The third dimension is not clockwise-counter clockwise. If you are going to call the other two North-south and east-west, the third dimension would be up-down. Even those designations are problematic. There is no east, west or even north at the North Pole. All directions are south. But if you assume you are not near a pole, and ignore the fact that you are on a sphere so that directions do weird things if you travel far enough on a sphere, those designations for dimensions are good enough.

You haven't dusted off the Great Attractor in a long time. Must be Oldies Week. :)

My gripe here is that Einstein's ideas are old science. He was a brilliant man - no dispute there - but his ideas are based on much less data than we have now, or will have tomorrow. He died over sixty years ago, which is in itself a decent lifespan, and much of his groundbreaking work was over a century ago.

Care to cite any of his “old science” that has been disproven or superseded by the information we have now.

Much of the science of the last century has consisted of explorations of Einstein's work. Many of his insights have been confirmed, new implications identified and studied, errors corrected.

A great example is the application of quantum mechanics to biology. Scientists are still trying to understand the concrete manifestations of what he discovered.

Jordan's right. All the scientists of old (and really old) should be completely disregarded because they are old farts and we obviously know better.

I agree. Einstein didn't even have a cell phone so how could he know anything.



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> I agree. Einstein didn't even have a cell phone
> so how could he know anything.

If you thought you had a brain tumor, would you prefer to have it checked using century old tech or more recenr non-invasive methods? How about treatment for it, if it turns out to be there?

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> Jordan's right. All the scientists of old (and
> really old) should be completely disregarded
> because they are old farts and we obviously know
> better.

Science builds on the work of the past, but it does not stay stuck in it.

Could we imagine using hundred old theories about aerodynamics or cardiology today? There may be aome basic fundamental facts which have remained the same, but would you trust a plane built today over one from a hundred year old design?

It is all because of social Einsteinism.

I see dead scientists everywhere!

And God moved upon the dark energy. And he divided the particles from the waves. And he said let their be light.

This made the news this past week regarding a supermassive black hole near the center of our galaxy:

"By analyzing the extraordinarily strong gravitational pull of the giant black hole at the center of the Milky Way on a star near it, astronomers have shown that Einstein's ideas about space and time still hold true as the best description yet of how gravity works.

According to Einstein's theory of general relativity, gravity results from how mass warps space and time. The greater an object's mass, the stronger its gravitational pull.

Scientists have largely tested general relativity's predictions in relatively weak gravitational fields, such as those on Earth and in the solar system. In the presence of much stronger gravitational fields — such as those of the supermassive black holes thought to lurk in the hearts of virtually all large galaxies — researchers might discover violations of general relativity that could lead to new theories that might help explain cosmic mysteries such as dark matter and dark energy.

"Einstein's right, at least for now," said Andrea Ghez, a co-lead author of the research and astronomy professor at the University of California Los Angeles, in a statement. "Our observations are consistent with Einstein’s theory of general relativity. However, his theory is definitely showing vulnerability. It cannot fully explain gravity inside a black hole, and at some point we will need to move beyond Einstein's theory to a more comprehensive theory of gravity that explains what a black hole is."

Move over Beethoven! Einstein's theory of relativity is beginning to show signs of wear!

https://www.space.com/supermassive-black-hole-gravity-einstein-relativity.html

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> Move over Beethoven!

How a-Muse-ing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xsp3_a-PMTw

This will be a blow to koriwhore.

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> This will be a blow to koriwhore.


Koriwhore may be simultaneously both alive and dead, as a result of being linked to a random subatomic event that may or may not occur.

That is funny!

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> That is funny!

Yes, it is!

“Einstein abandoned the constant, calling it the '"biggest blunder" of his life.”

So he did have a soft spot for his ex wife.

Or for the child that he disowned and pretended not to know about.