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Posted by: subeamnotlogedin ( )
Date: June 13, 2019 01:15PM

Hi, my sons best friend's stepdad id reading the Book of Mormon. One year ago his mom got remarried. About 2 months ago they got divorced because step dad was doing meth. Well now they are dating again and he is all into religion and preaching. My first thought was I hope he did not turn from meth addict to mormon missionary. Well that is what has happened. Sons best friends mom knows that we used to be Mormons and have resigned. So yesterday the mom asked us infront of her boyfriend or exhusband "you used to go a the lds church didn't you?". We replied yes. Her boyfriend asked my husband "what did you do to get excommunicated?". No we resigned my husband replied as I watched boyfriend smoke his cigarette. Boyfriend asked which ward we were in. I thought the ward you are attending. I wanted so bad to talk to him about the word of wisdom and law of chastity. Polyandry and polygamy. Helen Mar Kimball. What do you think? Could to lds cult be actually good for a recovering addict? Is the mind control helping him to live a drug free life? I want to print out the ces letter so badly and hand it over to him. We live in the same cul de sack. Yes I am still bitter over all that wasted time and tithing money I gave to the church. Instead of buying new shoes for my children I paid full tithing and let them walk around with wholes in their shoes till next paycheck. The lds church as all of here on this board know is very demanding. It took a toll on me. I guess my concern is if his step dad will find out that it is false would he come crashing down and go back to meth? Many of you remember how hard it was for me finding out that it was false and how I hated how the members showed up unannounced at our doorstep. I know it is his life and not mine. Why am I posting this? I guess I would like to hear different perspectives on this. Thank you.

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Posted by: numbersRus ( )
Date: June 13, 2019 01:20PM

Can you simply tell him that you used to be a member but you found that their claims were not true. The say that although it looks harmless, welcoming and loving at the surface, he probably would do better in the long run with another religion that was not founded on such falsehoods and focused so much on getting more members and more money for the home office in SLC.

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Posted by: Gordon B. Stinky ( )
Date: June 13, 2019 01:53PM

Step dad's life is in the trash. Mishies tell him that Mormonism will fix everything. He gives it a try and mom is now dating him again. So far it's "working." It's gonna be hard to turn him away from it.

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Posted by: William Law ( )
Date: June 13, 2019 01:55PM

"I wanted so bad to talk to him about the word of wisdom and law of chastity. Polyandry and polygamy. Helen Mar Kimball. What do you think? Could to lds cult be actually good for a recovering addict? Is the mind control helping him to live a drug free life? I want to print out the ces letter so badly and hand it over to him."

If this is a person who was a meth addict and then still fails to see the disconnect between his behavior and the church, there are no intellectual arguments adequate enough to make a dent. Some people are just destined to be Mormon. Soon, the church will be completely full of reformed drug and sex addicts and crazy people. No one else in their right mind will join. Non-crazy BICs might stay, but only under duress. Can't stop the inevitable.

The majority of us here were in the church because of family tradition and history (which we can't control), because the church lied to us before we got the whole story, or because we had crazy parents.

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Posted by: summer ( )
Date: June 13, 2019 02:06PM

Is the Mom active or believing LDS? If so, I wouldn't initiate anything. That would be interfering in their marriage. But if he asks a question, answer it minimally but truthfully. You can always refer him to online resources such as Mormon Think if he seems interested in what you are saying.

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Posted by: subeamnotlogedin ( )
Date: June 13, 2019 03:25PM

The mom is not religious at all. The grandma is going to a non denominational christian church.

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Posted by: summer ( )
Date: June 13, 2019 06:01PM

Then have at it! Full speed ahead.

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Posted by: subeamnotlogedin ( )
Date: August 02, 2019 09:13PM

I kid you not. Now the neighbor has moved on from Mormonism and is interested in the Jehovah Witnesses.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: August 02, 2019 09:42PM

At least you're off the hook now!

You think we'll see you on TV any time soon, telling reporters, "He seemed like such a nice guy... I know he was looking into various religions, but I have no idea what might have set him off..."?

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Posted by: subeamnotlogedin ( )
Date: August 02, 2019 11:26PM

Lol I hope not. About 2 weeks ago were 2 police cars in front of their house. The mom wanted him to leave and he would not leave the house so she called the police is what the grandma said. I think it was probably domestic violence. I have not seen step dad or ex husband since that day with the police cars.

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Posted by: summer ( )
Date: August 03, 2019 02:25AM

It sounds like it would be best if you kept your distance from him. What a nutter!

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Posted by: subeamnotlogedin ( )
Date: August 03, 2019 10:00AM

Summer this got even more strange. 2 days ago the grandma pulled me aside and asked me if my husband and I wanted to become godparents to her grandson. They are lutheran. So I said that I was non religious and the grandma said that all I needed to do is take an hour long class at the lutheran church to become a godparent. I said that I would think about it. Well sweet husband said hell no when I asked him about it. This situation is driving me crazy. The boy is my sons best friend but his family is having huge issues at the moment and I really want nothing to do with police or cps or whatever. I want to live my life the children play and have peace. I can live without drama. My marriage is not perfect either but what they are doing is insane.

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Posted by: summer ( )
Date: August 03, 2019 06:30PM

>>2 days ago the grandma pulled me aside and asked me if my husband and I wanted to become godparents to her grandson.

That is very strange. I would tell her that you and your husband don't feel comfortable doing that. If they have no family who can do it, let them find a fellow church member to step up.

I hate to say it, but it could also be a part of a gift grab. Some people view godparents as akin to family with resultant obligations.

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Posted by: fluhist not logged in ( )
Date: August 03, 2019 01:27AM

Hello. I read your post with interest and think I have some idea of what you felt. It seems like the situation is resolving itself as far as your involvement anyhow, but I did have a thought.

I feel very strongly that this man's recovery is NOT your responsibility (nor that of tscc incidentally) and anything you tell him is for him to sort out in his head. Keeping any sort of information from him, if he asks, may well be to his disadvantage.

I think I would tend to answer simply and truthfully, but only what he asks for. You answered the questions asked by his girlfriend very well. It seems to me that had they wanted more information they would have asked for it. I understand the need and want to yell "Run!!" to investigating people, but that doesn't work. I hope you don't feel bad about what you did.

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Posted by: subeamnotlogedin ( )
Date: August 03, 2019 10:08AM

Fluhist you are right I am not a counselor or addiction recovery specialist. The opposite is the case I was raised Mormon and don't know much about drugs. I feel so torn. My husband told our children that they are not allowed to go into neighbor boys house anymore due to ex husband. Grandma called me and we had a conversation about me worrying about police and cps. Grandma assured me that step dad is not living at their house anymore. The last 2 weeks have been very hard on me. DH is very upset at me for still taking her grandson swimming daily to our community pool. He wants me to break of all contact with them. We have been living in the same house for over 11 years and they have been our neighbors for just about the same length of time.

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Posted by: Cheryl ( )
Date: August 03, 2019 11:13AM

Don't be pushy about it, but make the offer and step up if they're interested.

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