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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: July 30, 2015 10:05PM

I'm watching the Smithsonian channel because there's nothing good on the Golf Channel and I never watch the news...

In 9 AD three Roman Legions were set up for ambush while heading for their winter quarter in Germania. 15,000 to 20,000 Romans lost their lives in this one extended battle, in the middle of a primeval forest. No altars were built, nothing was erected to mark the spot of this decisive battle.

But record of the battle reached Rome within 10 days of battle, via the few survivors who escaped the victors. It is in Roman history and Rome never tried to mess with Germania again.

Naturally, archaeologists were interested in finding the site. And they did! Here's what it says in Wikipedia:

"The finds at Kalkriese, where, along with 6,000 pieces (largely scraps) of Roman equipment, there is only one single item – part of a spur – that is clearly Germanic, indicate minimal Germanic losses."


Obviously the point I want to make is that in 9 AD, a battle involving at most 50,000 individuals, out in the middle of NO WHERE!, resulted in the discovery of not only the site, but over 6,000 pieces of Roman equipment. How does this contrast with the battle that occurred near the Hill Cumorah, 600 years later, involving literally (if you can call the BofM literature) millions of combatants and hangers-on, but which left zero, ZERO, artifacts?

Yes, yes, I know, Satan hid them all, hoping to fool people like me. Well, it worked...

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Posted by: Tevai ( )
Date: July 30, 2015 10:20PM

elderolddog Wrote:
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> Yes, yes, I know, Satan hid them all...

Unglaublich!!!

:D

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Posted by: ificouldhietokolob ( )
Date: July 30, 2015 10:24PM

Satan doesn't care if we confirm Roman and Germanic history with actual artifacts.
He only cares if we confirm claimed mormon history with actual artifacts.
Because, of course, umm...ummm..


Oh, never mind :)

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Posted by: brandywine ( )
Date: July 30, 2015 10:46PM

+1

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Posted by: Void K. Packer ( )
Date: July 31, 2015 12:00PM

All trace of bom events have been erased because they're sacred.

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Posted by: anybody ( )
Date: July 30, 2015 10:37PM


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Posted by: Void K. Packer ( )
Date: July 30, 2015 10:43PM

He is reported to have said something along those lines after the annihilation at Teutoburg Forest. It was nothing compared to the battle at Cumorah, though. Artifacts? Evidence? Who ya gonna believe: a convicted charlatan or your lying archaeologists?!

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Posted by: saucie ( )
Date: July 30, 2015 10:46PM

Those Goddamn archaeologists..... who do they think they are?



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/30/2015 10:48PM by saucie.

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Posted by: Beth ( )
Date: July 30, 2015 11:02PM

Are the companies flush with dough?

Elderolddog, when ya gonna start buying UnderAmour?

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: July 30, 2015 11:29PM

Sadly, Beth, I can't. I'd be accused of copying Jordan Speith. I am not the 'follower' type...

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: July 30, 2015 11:46PM

the golf channel ?

Is that where you see a two minute shot of the sky and the announcers are always whispering ?

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: July 30, 2015 11:50PM

So? It's an acquired taste...

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Posted by: Beth ( )
Date: July 31, 2015 12:57AM

with hushed tones in the background. Tiger Woods and his screaming ex-fan base ruined my weekend naps. I am telling the truth.

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Posted by: flanders ( )
Date: July 31, 2015 03:54AM

Silly eod, it was 400 yrs. later, not 600! That's why they can't find the Cumorah arthurflacks.



ETA: BTW, you heard it here first, Patrick Reed wins the PGA Championship.



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Posted by: brothernotofjared ( )
Date: July 31, 2015 04:13AM

Them archaeologists have got to look for Hill Cumorah with a Contrite Heart and a Broken Spirit. That's the only way they'll find anything from the bajillions of warriors who fought in that great, imaginary battle.

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Posted by: baura ( )
Date: July 31, 2015 06:02AM

Here's a MUCH smaller battle that was even older than the
alleged final Cumorah smackdown.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/major-discovery-archaeologists-find-roman-era-battlefield-in-germany-a-596619.html

Note that possibly 1000 Roman soldiers may have been in the
battle--over an order of magnatude less than the supposed
Cumorah battle, and at least a century older. Still it has
yielded over 600 artifacts.

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Posted by: stripping warrior ( )
Date: July 31, 2015 07:01AM

Maybe the Book of Mormon had things reversed. Maybe the men were steel and their swords were wood...or maybe they used their wood as swords...and that is why we haven't found any artifacts.

If Moroni was of the same character as Joe and Brigham then the word "battle" was probably just a euphemism for a drunken orgy. Thrust and parry, isn't that right Joe? It's all about the pecking order.

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Posted by: Tevai ( )
Date: July 31, 2015 10:57AM

Maybe...but wouldn't there be a WHOLE LOT of bones still about???

[ESPECIALLY if the men were steel???]



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Posted by: 6 iron ( )
Date: July 31, 2015 11:04AM

Golf, the second best sport to watch, the best sport to play. Hockey, however is the best sport to watch.

All done with beer, even better!

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Posted by: Hail Odin ( )
Date: July 31, 2015 11:09AM

Reminds me of "Exodus". Millions roam the desert for 40 years, no evidence......

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Posted by: Beth ( )
Date: July 31, 2015 12:05PM


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Posted by: saucie ( )
Date: July 31, 2015 12:06PM

How did YOU of all people manage to see the only program on the

Smithsonian channel that I haven't seen?

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Posted by: Beth ( )
Date: July 31, 2015 12:09PM

I didn't see it either.

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Posted by: saucie ( )
Date: July 31, 2015 12:16PM

Join my club Bethie.... its called "People who miss the very best shows on Smithsonian". We meet once a month and bitch and moan and tell stories about it, also we have good refreshments.

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Posted by: Beth ( )
Date: July 31, 2015 12:17PM

MUWAH, Saucie!

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: July 31, 2015 12:12PM

I got a text message from an unknown number, telling me to watch it. I thought it was you!

I wonder who sent me that message?

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Posted by: Beth ( )
Date: July 31, 2015 12:15PM

He's making amends.

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Posted by: saucie ( )
Date: July 31, 2015 12:23PM

Beth Wrote:
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> He's making amends.


He'll have to show me his artifacts before I believe him.

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Posted by: saucie ( )
Date: July 31, 2015 12:14PM

maybe it was the person who ordered your books without your knowledge.
Quien sabe hombre.

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