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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: November 12, 2015 04:47PM

http://www.sltrib.com/home/3166492-155/new-mormon-edict-on-gays-is

Banning Blacks from the priesthood was never doctrine, just policy.

So I guess Lamanites becoming White and Delightsome was a policy in BoM, not doctrine.

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Posted by: saucie ( )
Date: November 12, 2015 09:57PM

Let's really break it down here..... there was no policy, there was no doctrine, there was only hate, just like now. There is
only hate.

Hate and business, bringing in the money, keeping up the pretense.

No love, just hate and the fucking beat goes on.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: November 12, 2015 10:59PM

Thanks a lot! Now I've got that Sonny & Cher track looping in my head! You've made a powerful and vengeful enemy, missie!!

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Posted by: brandywine ( )
Date: November 12, 2015 11:10PM

+1

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Posted by: seekyr ( )
Date: November 13, 2015 08:19AM

"Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves" sort of fits too. How the self-righteous townfolk looked down on the Gypsies, called them names, and treated them like trash.

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Posted by: Particles of Faith ( )
Date: November 13, 2015 03:46PM

...but every night all the men would come around and lay their money down

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Posted by: saucie ( )
Date: November 12, 2015 11:10PM

hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaha
Hahahhahahahahahahahahhahahaha I'm so scared now.
Hahahahhahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahah

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Posted by: Void K. Packer ( )
Date: November 13, 2015 01:27AM

{psssst: OldMutt, I don't think your bark skerd Saucie much. Try crooning "I Got You, Babe" at her instead. Worth a shot.}

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Posted by: The Invisible Green Potato ( )
Date: November 12, 2015 11:20PM

There is no such thing as official doctrine. When something has been proven wrong it was never official doctrine, no matter how widely it had been taught. There are lots of things that are definitely NOT doctrine, but there is no list of things that definitely ARE doctrine.

The recent "policy" change on gays is obviously wrong, so it must be a policy. If it was obviously right then they would be calling it a doctrine ;)

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Posted by: verilyverily ( )
Date: November 13, 2015 01:20AM

Absolutely reeks of Orwell's 1984 doesn't it?
I sometimes wonder if Orwell studied the CULT before writing that book.

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Posted by: verilyverily ( )
Date: November 13, 2015 01:21AM

Like I said, reeks of Orwell

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Posted by: Reality Check ( )
Date: November 13, 2015 09:50AM

Orwell's 1984 has been TSCC's playbook for the last 65 years or so. It is the inspiration for everything TSCC does.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: November 12, 2015 11:30PM

Elohim knocking up Mary, policy or doctrine?

Someone should make up a FHE board game called Policy or Doctrine.

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Posted by: IdahoBanana ( )
Date: November 13, 2015 12:04AM

+1 !! Board game........* chuckling *

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Posted by: Ex-Sis ( )
Date: November 13, 2015 03:21AM

Bored game. Any game regarding Mormonism.

I won't even play conference drinking games, because I cannot listen, maybe at twice the speed of their snail speech...

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Posted by: sb ( )
Date: November 13, 2015 01:09AM

It's a word game for them, this is how you play:

You want folks to do something for you that is unreasonable, against logic, doctrine or ethnics (fill in the blank here: screwing kids, cheating on your wife, stealing your congregation's money, declaring yourself king, racism, homophobia, etc ETC)

Your speak it and teach it as doctrine, everyone MUST. Follow it.

Then, inevitably it becomes unpopular, so the downgrade begins:

Polygamy is necessary, it is an eternal doctrine
Polygamy is a principle (we will do it no matter what)
Polygamy is a teaching (some people used to teach it, but it was a few and it was before, so no biggie)
Polygamy is a policy/practice (we practice it, the guys in charge practiced it a lot, but it was a long time ago and we discontinued, we don't even understand why it was done, we were just being obedient, but honestly, it's not doctrinal so let's move on)

A practice can simply be discontinued.

Sorry we left you in Mexico with 8 wives and 31 kids, Apostate!

THIS is how you get away with calling yourself a prophet, you can walk anything back after you prophesied it.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/13/2015 01:14AM by sb.

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Posted by: seekyr ( )
Date: November 13, 2015 08:09AM

Very interesting progression!

I've never understood why the church hasn't continued to fight for the right to practice polygamy since the D&C clearly states how important it is to our salvation. I bet if the government outlawed the collection of tithes there'd be no end to the outcry from the church.

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Posted by: dydimus ( )
Date: November 13, 2015 01:22AM

"People Talking without Speaking" "People hearing without Listening"

Hmmmm??? sounds like a song that might be Sunday's new hymn?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4oInT79CUk

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Posted by: Elder Strangelove ( )
Date: November 13, 2015 01:35AM

Remember that time Moses came down from the mountaintop with the 10 Policies?

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Posted by: Beth ( )
Date: November 13, 2015 01:44AM


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Posted by: seekyr ( )
Date: November 13, 2015 08:10AM

Ha!!!

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Posted by: Void K. Packer ( )
Date: November 13, 2015 01:39AM

And don't forget the Articles of Policy. Well, okay, you can forget them, the cult does.

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Posted by: dydimus ( )
Date: November 13, 2015 01:40AM

Yes, they did this throughout the essays. I guess to make it more palatable for outsiders? Maybe to make it sound like non-Mormons wrote them? Example on Women and priesthood essay they state, "Women preach sermons, etc..." Now what Mormon says "preach Sermons????"

We always say give talks or teach lessons. Never, ever do we use such words.
Full Definition of ANTITHESIS


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a (1) : the rhetorical contrast of ideas by means of parallel arrangements of words, clauses, or sentences (as in “action, not words” or “they promised freedom and provided slavery”) (2) : opposition, contrast <the antithesis of prose and verse>

b (1) : the second of two opposing words, clauses, or sentences that are being rhetorically contrasted (2) : the direct opposite <her temperament is the very antithesis of mine> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/antithesis

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Posted by: The Invisible Green Potato ( )
Date: November 13, 2015 03:15AM

Use of the word "preach" in the essays might be a clue as to who is writing them: nevermos.

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Posted by: presleynfactsrock ( )
Date: November 13, 2015 04:36AM

This thread has given me inspiration----right from THE Woman or Women upstairs.

A new decree will sooooon come to pass:

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints shall henceforth and forever be known as THE Church of the Best Bullshit and Spin Around.

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Posted by: sherlock ( )
Date: November 13, 2015 06:39AM

Are they not shooting themselves in the foot by declaring this as policy and thus potentially liable to change? Surely something so critical in their eyes as blanket decisions on refusing baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost would have to come from revelation rather than just their legal advisors? What are the logical implications if they admit that this policy isn't definitively the mind & will of God?

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Posted by: azsteve ( )
Date: November 13, 2015 08:28AM

When a church policy contradicts Jesus's teachings found in the new testament and the prophet does nothing to change the policy, what does that say about the authority of the prophet? Who owns/runs this corporate sole anyway? God or church lawyers?

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Posted by: HangarXVIII ( )
Date: November 13, 2015 09:13AM

Here are the Morg's definitions of the words:

Doctrine: a belief or set of beliefs held and taught by the church.
Policy: any doctrine that may need to change based on financial, social, or political pressure.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/13/2015 09:59AM by HangarXVIII.

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Posted by: Cpete ( )
Date: November 13, 2015 09:42AM

Both policy and doctrine are nonsense.

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Posted by: fudley ( )
Date: November 13, 2015 11:42PM

that's just a practice ;)



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/13/2015 11:42PM by fudley.

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