We do not have to concern ourselfs with the mormon god.
He is not our father, because we never had spirits.
The bible says the dead are concious of nothing.
We were created by lord Jehovah god of the bible,
Who was known As Michael the arch angel, the begotten
son of Elohiem the father of jesus.

EVerything was appointed to the son who made this world
all flesh and breathed in the life to us and our existance
began. Only through christ our existance can become immortal.
If we are resurrected mortal again, and find ourselfs outside
of the 300 mile high and wide city, of the saved, we will
rise in battle and loose and suffer the 2nd death and
cease to exist for eternity..

NO mormon god can redeem us if we dont exist to be taken
and placed in one of those 3 heavens because they dont
exist. There is only heaven or non existance. In my fathers
house are many mansions in the one heaven. Some will have
greater charactor than others, but all saved are in heaven
with JESUS, who has a body.

The entire occult belief in pre-existance, and spirit world
after death does not exist. It is only a distraction that
those who hate christ can still end up having everlasting
life in a lower degree of glory. NOt so.

Everlasting and eternal life is only in christ or we
cease to exist after the 2nd death. No eternal hell
no nothing, including the evil spirits and the devil
will cease to exist burnt up in the lake of fire and
all fires go out eventually.

The whole jesuit/masonary cult now behind catholic,protestent
to mormon and most pagen sunday relegions teach about
the doctrine of having a spirit and we cannot cease to
exist. This is a great lie that even the wicked can
have everlasting life without christ in their midst good
enough for them.

many mormons with burning in the bossem will go against
the bible and accept another angel preaching another message
but the bible says let those churches be accursed.

If the bible is not true, then we can focus on reincarnation
and again we always exist and cannot die.

The devil taught in the garden of eden, after they took
the fruit, your eyes are open now knowing good and evil
and ye can become as gods, thus would give birth to
occult relegions even mormonism in the new age that
teach such things.

We have only this life to choose eternity or cease to
exist. athiest already accept there is no existance here after
because without christ that is exactly what is true
no existance after the 2nd death resurrection, as mortals.

If we are raized from the grave as immortal we are saved
if not and are mortal we have had it to suffer the 2nd death
will be more scary than the first in this life because
the hell is we know we are really going to die this time
forever and will not be as gods....

I'm not zelous to say I can testify of the truthfulness of
the bible, when I am greatly helped with my own suffering
as biopola depression to lean apon the compassionate anti
war values of buddhism, tho I deny reincarnation in all
its forms.... I am a better christian for embracing
buddhism/mix christianity. I do not deny the christ.
I do not accept any other angel preaching any other message
about eternal life.....

Buddhism is a science. My god is still jehovah jesus.
I am not concerned for the mormon god.

If we have to go through jesus, and jesus says he knows
us not, then not even Elohiem, and joe smith can save us...

the sealing in the bible refered only to the holy ghost
of promise, that god already knew who would make it and
who would not that is why we cant judge. Other references
lean toward the original 4th commandment as the only
legalistic law that never changed, remember the 7th day
(saturday)and keep it holy, were the remnent people
who did not wander after the beast. This can be refered
to the roman beast of pagen sunday, and one world govenment
rule where church and state come together as one that the
bible warned was to entrap us to accept the antichrist 666
where we cant buy or sell, and a forced sunday law of relegion and state that would usher in the false jesus to stand apon
the platform displayed as the false 2nd comming in the
vactican.... All those who refuse the mark of the beast
and have the mark of the true sabbath saturday, live or
die, tho avoided the false antichrist sabbath, are saved
up. AT present probation has not closed...

Come out ye from modern day babylon.
Dont justify the resurrection day as now the true sabbath.
The levites of ancient moses times, refused to worship
on any other day, nor worship the goldern calf while all
other tribes did.

Tho we enter into christ rightousness deny our own stinking
rags of rightousness, cannot buy our way into heaven
by obedience and good works tho knowing that grace is sufficient immediatly, and enter into christ rest and perfection
as little children, we are grateful, and desire obedience
naturally without force..

The sanctury of leading us to the holy place just like
mormon/masonary temples try to lead us, tho confuse us,
we are truly saved by grace. No priesthood required to rob
god of his royal priesthood, nor the need of judges in
israel to answer to any man but jesus since the crucifiction.

Once we love the lord so much we dont desire sin anymore
we enter into the holy of holies, within our own temple
body and gods charactor apon our heads sealed up by grace.

Only at that point, if we denied it, or denied the sun
dont shine when it does, and return to wicked ways
then we can loose our salvation.

NO self blood atonement can save us, no suicide, no
execution of the penalty, because all this ended on the cross.

When we dont answer to priests, we are unlikely to
be hurt and rebell or be confused..

I was once worthy or re-baptism while living in another country
when returned to australia not long after, my new bishop
who discriminated against biopola mental illness in his
ward, terminated me, denied re-baptism, and felt my illness
was demonic and cast me out of the building.

Yet while over seas the church presidency shed tears for
me and told me I was worthy for re-baptism and jesus
loved me dearly.

Mormonism is filled with contradictions and false revelations
that only a corspe would follow blindly.

I found the real jesus of the bible once a wounded man
lieing in the ditch, a good samariton stopped to help
while a mormon priest so to speak, ignored me to get
to the holy temple of the self-rightous pharisees or lds.

christians catch the fish first and christ cleans them.
Mormons clean the fist first and the devil catches them.

Its twisted,and a cult of the worse kind, and filled
with pagen masonary symbolism, the upside down star
on the saltlake temple to sun-worship discuised as
representing the 3 degrees of glory that dont exist
anyway...

either we are saved in the body of christ or not.
All christians after probation is closed who escape
the mother pagen sunday forced law of the antichrist
can discover the true mark and sealing of the holyghost
was never meant for sunday false sabbath. But for now
there is no accountability for sincere people.

but the warning goes out, that the time will come.
On michael jacksons funeral day, the media focused on that
missed the greatest event in history, the united nations
and presidents of the world signing the relegion and state
leglusation(cant spell that word sorry)and the american
constition away, that gave all power to the pope, the antichrist be it this pope or the next, awaiting the right
crises, deliberatly created(Kaos therory) to usher in
the forced commonistic sunday law of the antichrist.
There will be cival uprising in the USA like never before
that will affect all countries on earth. The USA curencey
will crash and be no more. A new currency, that already
displayed by a rusian diplimat, is in order ready to go.

How long no one knows. All those who refuse the sunday
law will be imprisoned or put to death. Many concentration
camps secretly filmed with thousands of plastic coffins
ready to incinerate those who disobey sunday law.

Mormons will have no trouble obeying sunday law.
There billion dollar empire may even help toward it
and take care of its pagen members, and lead them right
to hell...

Flee from bablyon. Call out the ministers of those false
relegions, expose their deceptions the bible says in
ephesians. Millions will come out of great pagen sunday
tribulation and find rest in gods mark of true authority
the 7th day saturday sabbath..

Even the baptists that broken away, have called themselfs
seven day baptists. As long as their is no priests and
judges in israel who is robbing god of priesthood,those
churches including seven day aventist is the closest to
the truth, more so than mormonism ever was..

We were always taught that aventism was the closest
to truth but mormonism had it right..

Mormonism is OCCULT and masonary and its god, who was
adam, comming to earth with one of his wifes brigham
testified, tho disputed now, makes him a false prophet
and not in harmony with biblical prophets.
Jesus/god/jehovah who commanded adam and eve to clothe
their nakedness was not addressing father Elohiem.

The bible says father (who is ELOHEM) is a spirit.

Jesus had a pre-existance but not us.
Only through christ we can have everlasting and eternal
life with the god of the bible, jehovah who said there
is no god above or below him because he was god not only
of the earth,and all the stars we can see with our naked
eye, but also our flesh and breathed in life. That makes
him the only god to be concerned with.

the father Elohem, jesus and the spirit life force
is 3 in one,tho the flesh god of bones is ONLY JESUS
we answer to for all eternity if we are to exist for ever.

This is easter time, tho a pagen easter and we all know
christs birth and death was not in december,and indeed
was in aprail sometime.

have a happy easter everyone, and dont forget jesus
when eating all those pagen chocolate eggs.

For athiests you have your rights and opinions like me
to count my testimony here as nonsense, for this life
is all ye have, and tho god loves ya and I feel love
for mankind this time, grateful for the atonment of christ
to eat, drink and be merry for tommorow we die is so true
especially to athiests, for there is nothing here-after
for those who deny the christ.

Deny mormonism no problem, but not the christ.

The prohecy 3 angel message, we are exhorted to
preach, and the true sabbath gospel that never changed
to suit man.....I judge not, or wish any would be lost
but there is no burning in hell not forever anyway only
the 2nd death by fire and existance terminated, no further
concious. That is a motivation to move out of mormonism
and start our journey to accepted real jesus of the bible.

Call me anything but Im not an athiest, tho was raized
one until decieved by mormonism, tho I could be decieved
if the bible is not true and victory to the athiests.

No one knows for sure. Its not about feeling or burning
in the bossem, but the bible says come reason together
use our brain and get a conviction of the word and
not be carried away by false doctrines of Joe smith
and all those pagen sunday relegions,including protestism
still daughters of mother roman catholicsm otherwise if
they knew their bible would not of continued to worship
on sunday and the vactican knew this blatently and laughed
at all of them as hardly better off if at all..
Now protestism and catholicism is joined like one.

Stand apart from sunday pagen relegions and the sun worship symbolism displayed everywhere from the vactican to mormonism.

amen...

Larry.

If he weren't ruler of the Aesir, supreme god of war and poetry and knowledge and wisdom (for which he gave an eye) and husband of Frigg, the supreme goddess of the heavens and married love, Juno of the Valhalla...well, he might actually suggest you get on some medication before you fall off the deep end and start your own cult.

no worries corrodedinnevessel, no offence taken.
If you are an athiest, you are right, there is nothing
out there, nothing to lookforward to here-after as
nothing exists but now.

I am impressed by your few words, tho the bible says
there should not be divide in christian demoninations.

I figure to stand apart from the pagen aspect of sunday
relegions, and many cults part of that, the saturday
sabbath is refreshing. The law of the sabbath is my only
belief in legalistism, tho defenetly not toward judges
in israel and prophets who build 4 billion dollar shopping
malls in the lds church...

I have lived with the hauntings of the occult most of
my lds life, and all that nonsense departed from me
once I stood apart from pagen sunday relegions that
teach about spirit/soul and dead people in heaven.

I believe the dead are dead. I have visited joe smiths
grave and I heard his body had been removed and re-burried.
He certainly is not resurrected as many believe.

Tho I take your point. I'm on my meds mate and on the level.
I take easter seriously and standing up to be counted.
I love jesus and I love his true sabbath, sealing mark
of authority tho I am not a member of the Seven day
aventist church....

I read all its history and nothing compared to the deceptions
of joe smith. It has an inner temple process like mormonism
to the holy and into the holy of holies in the temple
body. I'm not there yet but I know what to expect having
been through the mormon temple when worthy.

Its a beautifal process without all the nonsense masonary
rituals and signs and ordinances for dead people as I dont
believe in spirit world of the occult dead, only the
demonic spirits that impersonate the dead.

Tell me more about yourself mate as I would respect
you more that you are athiest as no further argument
because your right there is nothing that will exist
for eternity here-after for anyone, that is without
christ and we are dead for a long time not concious of
anything until the resurrection of the just and injust.

I value your opinions and respect your point of views.

Larry.

so how does this fit in with american LDS porn actresses, sex with asians and the sex with cains seed?

Enjoyed the read. You worship on the day you wish and so will I. You do realize that some countries have a different calendar than in the US. For some, Sun. IS the 7th day. Does God care when we worship?? REALLY care??? I think not. It is the actions we take as we interact with others that HE cares about.

fishsticklama, at least someone has read my other replieys
to different posts. Yes what an interesting life I've had.
Yes even manslaughter or murder is forgiven to be baptised
seven day aventist, but after that there is no other chance.
Baptism means nothing without being born of the spirit,
and free of bondage and fear toward man,priests,especially
fucking nazi racist priests. So my past deceptions, fell
for an american porno attress and married her, last less
than a year, was no regret mate, tho she could of told
me the truth about that and not lie. But who I am to say
looking back, she had a heart of gold, a great mother with
her children and most liked by my parents.
Paul the appostle was an executioner before he became
christian... I was never christian as a mormon.
The bastards that judge me are not christian anyway.
Like I said if your an athiest, understood, you dont
have to be christian. If we claim to be christian, its
true we should not judge, not even what sabbath we worship
on. I was only saying that the time will come that we
must come out of pagen mother sunday relegions if they
join with state,and the politics of mother rome papacy
and oneworld govenment that so far relates to united nations
backing the vactican and signed the peace treaty.
making peace with mother Rome and giving into the beast
is not what the bible says we should do.
For christians we are to stand up and be counted and not
turn out backs on christ and conform to athiesm tho that
is our god given rights. I may hate the church, and hate
it for hating the seed of cain and all its racist impliciation
by its womanizer poligimest man/god Elohem, and my past
history all inspired by the cult of mormonism may have
given me a bad name once, tho all these experiences are
for my good, even athiesm if I chose that...
I really dont care what people think of me mate,tho I intend
to attract the bastards of australia, some lds that linger
in hell,the danites type of movements, the real killers
of society just like the jesuits sneaky to crush anyone
who gets in their way, or goes against the prophet of the
church. If your an athiest, there is no real threat or danger.
If you are one of them, judging me for my past, you have
found me and I'm prepered for battle, for I am not a mormon
and envy not any mormon or any position of nazi power,for
the emeny held me captive oneday as a prisoner and tried to
induce into me that Hitler system would fit into mormon
white supremecy, power and position. There may be a black
USA president, but they said a black one would be assisinated
and not supported and anyone can go against that, not even
the modern day danites would stand for that.
What evil is bred by the criminal brains that exist in
mormonism, not all but quiet a few. I am one with a criminal
brain and on medication torchured and blessed all at the
same time. It infuriates the enemy that I can get what
I want and then loose it slip through my fingers for my
own learning and experience. Tho since embracing the
seven day adventist teachings, enlightened that everything
to do with spirit soul/and the dead is occult and I have
commanded the flood gate of my so called hallicinations
to cease, no more ghosts or demonic angels, not even
aliens discuised as demons such as the mothman. All gone
with my new belief system. So depart I say to anyone
who messes with the occult. I have more respect for sinners
and drunks on the street than those who manipulate for
power sake, calling and conjuring up spirits such as
the temple mormon church in all its occult power of masonary
to the kilt. I once used priestcraft myself against the
oppressor, and the great lds leader was soon given into
adultry and excomunicated to this day and devoiced.
That man was accountable to leading at least 3 people
to suicide, one a councilor in his reign as stake president
and the other a missionary sent home for having a wet dream
shunned, rejected from his future spouse's family and the
church and his behaviour of manic depression had him terminated
from attending church or even getting a temple rec, decided
to bump himself off. Tho in all the satire reality of my
past, that I am choosing to explain for the fun of it
without telling you to fuck off, I am quiet aware of your
comments as real in its own life sense of the meaning
but all myths outside of the bible word can go to hell.
Tho I say again if you are athiest, there is no argument.

honestone, your right no matter for now which sabbath.
I was saying the time will come, that if the oneworld
gov and papacy joined up raizes its ugly antichrist head
and force sunday law where we cant buy or sell, where
relegion and state join together and that is already the
case, signed and past by law, but not implicated until
the right circumstances the bible warns not to be part
of these churches, nor wander after the beast as the whole
world would be decieved otherwise.

Christianity means sacrifice (tho living for christ) it
also means suffering for truth sake, even death and torchure.
Most are not prepered for that might as well enjoy those
pagen easter eggs while they can. God cares that no one
will be lost and come out of great tribulation and
deny false prophets as popes and lds mormon leaders,
no matter how sincere, good they may seem, they are
OCCULTIST OF KOLOB so to speak, the sun-god of Sirus star
system where they get their light and power,from lucifer
themself, and the masonary lucifer trust changed to lucid
trust (whatever the name is now),the relegious and banking
world all controlled by sunday law, will make a difference
what day we worship when the time comes to stand apart
and avoid the 666 mark of the beast, in exchange for
accepting the true mark/athority and sealing up of the
holyghost and true saturday sabbath as the remnent christians.
The bible says there can be only one true church.
That is any saturday church, that has no papacy to levitical
priests robbing god of prieshood, or occult lds temple
rituals,(for the dead are concious of nothing) nor
idles of Mary of catholicsm, all pagen,masonary induced by
the highest order of jesuits, the real enemy from ancient
to modern times,even a blood line that fulfills prophecy
the elite, and dark principalities of darkness discuised
as light. It does matter what sabbath we worship sooner
or later and no matter how good we are, if we conform
to the pagen changed sabbath to sunday, and the kolob
sun-worship gods of kolob and star system syrus, we
are accursed as a people and wander after the beast of
666. We should be angry and flee from these relegions
and bring the ministers out of also, and expose the deceptions
as ephsians of the bible exhorts, not judging but warning
however... Again athiest there is no argument, ye are right
there is nothing here-after for athiests not even telestial
or silly heavens for non believers, just no existance and
that might even piss of an athiest which would proove
they are not really athiest at all just lost..

Despite my flaws and wicked past at times, I close all
doors to the occult and no bakers hat demon is invited in
nor my dead ancestor for that matter who is really dead
without concious until resurrection, no Mary no nothing
except the angels in heaven, for they exist and they
can enter the veil for who they are angels not DEAD PEOPLE..

Those dead rise not unless baptised meaning those dead in
christ and false relegions are saved not, do not rise up
to everlasting and eternal life, and must flee from
those relegions, those false sabbaths, and be born again
and sealed up by the holyghost of the living christ
the only royal priest and only judge in Israel....

We have all be hurt from mormonism. It can turn us
into killers hating any conformity, but the only conformity
that pisses me off is answering to pig dog swines of
mormonism to catholocism.

Jesus is god/jehovah, the creator of our flesh, our
only existance in space and time, and the only judge
in israel that can redeem us to everlasting immortal
resurrection, or we must face extinction after the 2nd
death of a mortal resurrection and rise up in battle
against the lords people who love christ and love
his true sabbath mark and authority.

Haters of the true sabbath, come out of pagen sunday
babylon. If I can do it, a most wicked and vile man
of a criminal brain, so can ye all and repent.
I am yet to be baptised myself into the true sabbath gospel
and if I chose not to, it would be that I am also choosing
pagenism, which my choice would be buddhism to spare me
from my own brave heart scottish killer instinct blood line
quick to anger and plunge the sword, just as mormonism
and the stupid book of mormon of blood thirsty battles
led me in the past that makes Cain look inocent compared
to what some of us white men have commited in error
because of power and greed for position and rule.

May the black man ever rule as a mormon prophet that day
is yet to be seen if ever happens I'll take my hat off
finally to the mormon church. On my mission I was informed
that the true sabbath would be returned by command of
the prophet told to me by a general authority tho it
was his opinion, false relegions dont change..

larry.

"Jesus stopped by my bunk Tuesday week..."
Cool Hand Luke

Young people today, all cool and that would rather
become vampires(that dont exist either)than become
immortal in christ..

Unfortenetly the fasination of everlasting to eternal
life is only possible in christ.

All life will end at the 2nd death even for potential
humans resurrected mortal who aspired to become vampires
will not even get a taste of FOREVER, rather cease to
exist. How sad. A vampire is better than cease to exist
if we didnt have to choose jesus as lord. But without
jesus there is NOTHING. Might as well be an athiest
and proclaim being cool knowing there is nothing or
eternity ahead. See there is hardly no cool in that.

The cool think they will live on forever as SOMETHING
even freaky and that would be great but its not what
the bible says. DEATH IS DEATH. We have no soul or spirit
but if we did, it couldnt be killed..

We have only life in christ or we perish.
If I wanted to believe in pagenism I'de be a buddhist.

Larry.