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Posted by: Shummy ( )
Date: November 25, 2015 09:16AM


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Posted by: Human ( )
Date: November 25, 2015 09:29AM

Hurry up already with your god damn ridiculously scheduled, late November Thanksgiving. Us in the Great White North wanna get our Christmas Trees up. Damn it.

(And we all know Christmas is at least a fact.)

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Posted by: Renie ( )
Date: November 25, 2015 09:38AM

Watcha waitin for? We've had Christmas decorations up down here since before Halloween. Get on with it already. (yes..I know people that have had trees up since the first week of November)

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Posted by: seekyr ( )
Date: November 25, 2015 04:25PM

Heck, some of my neighbors leave their Christmas lights up all year long.

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Posted by: anybody ( )
Date: November 25, 2015 09:59AM

Statue of Juan de Oñate:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_de_O%C3%B1ate#/media/File:NEW_MEXICO_San_Juan_Pueblo_DonJuan_De_Onate_First_Govenor_of_New_Spain.jpg



http://www.nmgs.org/art1stThanks.php

Thanksgiving Day in the United States is a holiday like no other: families gather to celebrate and enjoy the blessings of this land of freedom and plentitude. But to those of us who descend from the original colonizing families of New Mexico, our special day is April 30th.

On April 30th four centuries ago, our ancestors, led by Don Juan de Oñate, reached the banks of El Rio Bravo (Rio Grande). The first recorded act of thanksgiving by colonizing Europeans on this continent occurred on that April day in 1598 in Nuevo Mexico, about 25 miles south of what is now El Paso, Texas. After having begun their northward trek in March of that same year, the entire caravan was gathered at this point. The 400 person expedition included soldiers, families, servants, personal belongings, and livestock . . . virtually a living village. Two thirds of the colonizers were from the Iberian Peninsula (Spain, Portugal, and the Canary Islands). There was even one Greek and a man from Flanders! The rest were Mexican Indians and mestizos (mixed bloods).

The starting point for the colonists had been in Zacatecas, Nueva España (now Mexico) and by being part of the colonizing expedition they had been promised the title of Hidalgo, men with rights and privileges equal to Spain's nobility. Juan de Oñate was a man of wealth and prominence, the son of Cristobal Oñate, silver mine owner whose family had come to the New World from the Basque region of Spain. Titles granted to him by Viceroy Luis de Velasco were Governor and Adelantado of New Mexico. The colonists suffered hardships and deprivations as they headed north, but they were also headed toward posterity: they would participate in the first recorded act of Thanksgiving by colonizing Europeans on this continent—22 years before the English colonists similarly gave thanks on the Atlantic coast. The expedition is well recorded by Gaspar Perez de Villagrá, the Spanish poet who traveled with the group. He wrote, "We were sadly lacking in all knowledge of the stars, the winds, and other knowledge by which to guide our steps."

On April 30, 1598, the scouts made camp along the Rio Grande and prepared to drink and eat their fill, for there they found fishes and waterfowl. Villagrá wrote,

"We built a great bonfire and roasted meat and fish, and then sat down to a repast the like of which we had never enjoyed before." Before this bountiful meal, Don Juan de Oñate personally nailed a cross to a living tree and prayed, "Open the door to these heathens, establish the church altars where the body and blood of the Son of God may be offered, open to us the way to security and peace for their preservation and ours, and give to our king and to me in his royal name, peaceful possession of these kingdoms and provinces for His blessed glory. Amen."

On April 30, many of us with roots in New Mexico commemorate that first Thanksgiving, not with "turkey and all the trimmings," but with the knowledge that our ancestors helped settle and develop this land—through tenacity, perseverance and deep faith. It is partly through their contributions that America was destined to become unique; providing freedom as well as opportunity to all people wishing to come to its shores.


Happy Thanksgiving Day!


Oñate And The First Thanksgiving
http://historicaltextarchive.com/sections.php?action=read&artid=736

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Posted by: BYU Boner ( )
Date: November 25, 2015 12:05PM

Next thing you know Shumms is going to tell us George Washington never had a cherry tree. Fuckin' revisionist history.

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: November 25, 2015 12:22PM

There seemed to be an element of divine intervention in everything George did, however, according to those who knew him and witnessed events as they unfolded. Some things are unexplained, but still documented as factual.

"Some sobering facts

We know that George Washington fought in some 200 battles and was never wounded. We know that he was indeed a great leader and won against all odds against a superior British Army and Navy. We know that his coat had four bullet holes inside of it after the battle of Monongahela and his horse had been shot out from under him twice as French and American Indian rifleman fired away at him from short distances. A witness, who was captured after the battle, Mary Ingles, testified that two French fur trappers who took part in the battle she overheard saying that Washington has amazingly dodged so many bullets that terrible afternoon. Once again as we explore the eccentricities of history we are forced to accept the unknown influencing the outcome of historic human events."

http://beforeitsnews.com/paranormal/2013/07/paranormal-events-surrounded-george-washington-father-of-our-country-2454552.html

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Posted by: seekyr ( )
Date: November 25, 2015 04:38PM

How George Washington avoided being shot . . . but his horse didn't.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02098/trick-rider_2098237i.jpg

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Posted by: Shummy ( )
Date: November 25, 2015 12:35PM

So boner, are you suggesting that I cherry-pick US history?

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Posted by: BYU Boner ( )
Date: November 25, 2015 04:19PM

You've picked a lot of cherries in your history, Bro! Happy Thanksgiving!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/25/2015 04:54PM by byuboner.

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Posted by: BYU Boner ( )
Date: November 25, 2015 05:00PM

Parsons Weems' Fable

https://www.google.com/search?q=grant%20wood%20george%20washington&gws_rd=ssl



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/25/2015 05:06PM by byuboner.

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Posted by: StillAnon. ( )
Date: November 25, 2015 05:48PM

Yes, he is. Next thing you know, you're going to claim the Book of Mormon isn't true either.

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