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Posted by: blindguy ( )
Date: November 30, 2015 02:13PM

That's what a supplier did for a Costco store in southern California.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/11/21/1257374/-Costco-labels-Bible-as-fiction-in-this-store-Pastor-goes-viral-for-wrong-reason?detail=email

While the editorial at the above link is critical of the unchristian behavior of a local pastor (and I'd agree with that), my personal view is that regardless of whether or not it was a supplier's mistake, the placement of the Bible in the fiction section was the correct placement.

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Posted by: anybody ( )
Date: November 30, 2015 02:19PM


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Posted by: ificouldhietokolob ( )
Date: November 30, 2015 03:27PM

anybody Wrote:
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So is "The DaVinci Code."
And it's in the fiction section where it belongs.

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Posted by: hello ( )
Date: December 02, 2015 03:23AM

ificouldhietokolob Wrote:
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> anybody Wrote:
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> So is "The DaVinci Code."
> And it's in the fiction section where it belongs.

of course...

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Posted by: Greyfort ( )
Date: November 30, 2015 02:21PM

For all we know, the original scroll writers wrote them as moral tales and they were never meant to be taken as historical fact.

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Posted by: the1v ( )
Date: November 30, 2015 02:25PM

Fiction - Probably not. Definitely fits into the Mythology section of the Dewey decimal system. Section 201 after looking it up.

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Posted by: blindguy ( )
Date: November 30, 2015 02:29PM

Interesting response. I do not view mythology as a separate category from fiction.

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Posted by: the1v ( )
Date: November 30, 2015 03:15PM

Melville Dewey did. Since he created the classification system it is mythology or religion 201 or 200.

He reserved the fiction classification for the works that were unequivocally fiction. The BoM and PoGP should both be classified as fiction under the system.

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Posted by: Heretic 2 ( )
Date: November 30, 2015 03:27PM

I would agree with some other posters that mythology is fiction.

But if you insist that mythological and religious works go in their own section in 201 or 200, then you would be forced by your own rule to put the BoM and PoGP in one of those sections rather than the fiction section.

I see no difference. Some Christians view the Bible as completely true while everyone else views it as made-up. Some Muslims view the Koran as completely true while everyone else views it as made-up. Some Mormons view the Book of Mormon as completely true while everyone else views it as made-up. Since there exist believers who claim that the BoM and PoGP are completely true, it cannot be claimed that they are unequivocally fiction.

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Posted by: PapaKen ( )
Date: December 01, 2015 09:44AM

Did Dewey have a section for "Deliberate lies, hoaxes & fantasies?"
If so, I'd put the Bible, the BoM & other scriptures there.

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Posted by: bona dea unregistered ( )
Date: November 30, 2015 11:42PM

Librarians would disagree with you. Religion and mythology are a separate category from fiction according to Dewey

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Posted by: pollythinks ( )
Date: November 30, 2015 02:41PM

The Bible's provenience indicates it is far more than fable or just tales.

The O.T. predicts the future (such as the upcoming birth of a Savior),
And the N.T. (written some 400 years later), fulfills the predictions of the O.T.

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Posted by: blindguy ( )
Date: November 30, 2015 03:24PM

The Bible's providence occurs *only* because people believe it to be true. As Steve Benson and others on this Board have pointed out, the book has very little historical significance beyond its being the foundation for two major belief systems.

As for the NT's fulfilling the prophecies of the OT, given how the book was written, I'd say that those prophecies were self-fulfilling. I'd argue that humans have not sinned and that we have been doing what we were designed to do ever since we evolved in Africa from the same ancestors from which our cousins, the apes, evolved.

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Posted by: elderpopejoy ( )
Date: November 30, 2015 11:34PM

blindguy Wrote:
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> ... doing what we have been
> doing what we were designed to do ever since we
> evolved in Africa from the same ancestors from
> which our cousins, the apes, evolved.

This is drivel from the desk of a guy truly blind;

from one who fancies himself a cousin of apes.

Have another go at the story of Divinely Created Man.

You may be blessed to learn you're not evolved from baboons.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: December 01, 2015 01:09AM

Hey, it's just facts, is all it is! Denying them may make you feel better, but it doesn't change them from being factual, monkey boy. (the last, monkey boy, was a shot a humor, and not a personal epithet...)

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Posted by: ificouldhietokolob ( )
Date: December 01, 2015 12:09PM

elderpopejoy Wrote:
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> Have another go at the story of Divinely Created
> Man.
>
> You may be blessed to learn you're not evolved
> from baboons.

Trouble is, that story of "Divinely Created Man" doesn't square in any way with facts and evidence. It's myth. At best.

And no, we didn't evolve from baboons...that's the kind of ignorant statement somebody who doesn't know anything about evolution on our planet makes.

We share a common ancestor with baboons. We didn't evolve from them, they didn't evolve from us. Humans *did* evolve, however. No matter how much you want to be "divinely created," there's no evidence you were, and the massive evidence that you evolved can only be denied through willful ignorance or outright dishonesty.

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Posted by: ificouldhietokolob ( )
Date: November 30, 2015 03:29PM

pollythinks Wrote:
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> The Bible's provenience indicates it is far more
> than fable or just tales.
>
> The O.T. predicts the future (such as the
> upcoming birth of a Savior),
> And the N.T. (written some 400 years later),
> fulfills the predictions of the O.T.

Neither of those is correct from an objective, factual point of view.

Have you read the "messiah" predictions in the OT? The NT character "Jesus" doesn't fit any of them.

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Posted by: strangeloop ( )
Date: December 01, 2015 10:20PM

By your logic the Matrix trilogy must be nonfiction.

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Posted by: ificouldhietokolob ( )
Date: December 02, 2015 11:57AM

strangeloop Wrote:
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> By your logic the Matrix trilogy must be
> nonfiction.

Exactly. First ones make prophecies. Later ones fulfill them. Yes, fiction can do that. How about that. :)

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Posted by: SoCal Apostate ( )
Date: November 30, 2015 08:24PM

This is my local Costco. I had no idea that they were so enlightened.

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Posted by: saucie ( )
Date: November 30, 2015 08:58PM

I agree. Its fiction.

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Posted by: Myron Donnerbalken ( )
Date: December 01, 2015 06:38AM

Poorly written and boring fiction. But the Book of Mormon is far worse.

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Posted by: blueorchid ( )
Date: November 30, 2015 09:13PM

Thank goodness we have the Christian Right to make sure we know the bible is true history, because really, how else would you ever guess?

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Posted by: donbagley ( )
Date: November 30, 2015 11:45PM

If not fiction, affliction.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/01/2015 09:29PM by donbagley.

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Posted by: iris ( )
Date: December 01, 2015 09:26AM

Pre-enlightenment mythology.

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Posted by: excatholic ( )
Date: December 01, 2015 07:12PM

If your categories are fiction and non-fiction, it's fiction.

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