Here's why they will never fess up to the fraud.

http://www.postmormon.org/exp_e/index.php/discussions/viewthread/42142/#621612

Wowza if this is true! That explains a lot!

"6) a COB lawyer affirmed that all high level church employees and volunteers who have access to any financial information at the church sign non-disclosure agreements (NDA).
7) The NDAs are life-long binding agreements whose violations have strict civil penalties and can result in having any and all property used by the employee/worker/volunteer removed immediately; force repayment of all past and current considerations, benefits and perks retained or enjoyed by the employee; revoke any and all associations, contracts (book deals) or other financial arrangements owned, leased or facilitated by church companies; and potentially revoke academic or other honors bestowed upon the employee or family of the employee which are assigned to them through their association with church companies, universities or other institutions."



Effectively combined with the 1 million dollar hand out when called this NDA, if it indeed is valid in the court, will ruin everyone and their families if they jump off the ride."

If a GA were to 'jump ship' and tell ALL (With documents and other evidence) and then have the full force of such a non-disclosure agreement enforced against him, he could/would still be taken care of. All one would have to do is set up one of those on-line funding pages (the specific name of such a page is not allowed here).

He would receive an enormous outpouring of thanks (and overwhelming financial gratitude) from ex-mormons from all over the world. People would be willing to give him 10% of their excess and even sell their gold teeth to support him (and provide physical security protection).

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> He would receive an enormous outpouring of thanks
> (and overwhelming financial gratitude) from
> ex-mormons from all over the world. People would
> be willing to give him 10% of their excess and
> even sell their gold teeth to support him (and
> provide physical security protection).

I'm not sure about that. The ex-mo "community" doesn't have the financial resources to compete with a multi-billion dollar corporation that would be set upon the total destruction of an apostate GA.

Beside that, ex-mos come in varying degrees of disdain for the morg. Some really despise it whereas some couldn't care less.

In reality the GAs live a very cushy and affluent rock-star life. Even if one of them had the integrity to "tell all" they would be in for a life of misery compared to the gravy-train they are riding.

Of course there are different degrees of disaffection among ex-members. But I believe there would be strong support out there to help, especially if it was to help expose the fraud with actual documentation and personal testimony.

John Dehlin receives approx $150,000 per year to support his Mormon Stories website and podcasts, Tom Phillips received support when he was involved with bringing the UK Fraud lawsuit, and the owners of this site receive justly deserved support when they ask for financial help from time to time to maintain this site.

I, for one, would jump at the chance to support someone who had the capability to help expose the LDS fraud to the world, using their own documentation and personal testimony from the highest levels.

Doesn't it make you wonder why a CHURCH would make employees and volunteers sign a financial NDA? What is the "church" hiding?

Most nonprofits including churches open their books to their members, the public at large, or both -- because it's the members money and the churches have nothing to hide.

+1000000000000000000 for this comment

I think just letting people know about the NDA alone will help get a few minds thinking about the validity of their religion - why would God need NDAs. Doesn't He believe in honesty and truth!? Oh wait that was the OLD God. The NEW Mormon God only believes in milk vs meat and thinks his "valiant" earth children aren't strong enough to know truth anymore...

If it's true, isn't it also true that a contracted to/for illegal acts?

For example, as a part of his duties and "bound" by that contract, he is instructed to counsel underbosses to hide evidence of sexual crimes, harrass witnesses, etc.

There is also another part, that if true, seems legally questionable, and that would be deception. On their face, NDAs are perfectly legal and valid tools, but the article described a three-year process to reveal that Mormonism isn't true. So, a TBM signs a contract in good faith that he will never, ever reveal the super-duper secret sacred keys to the door of the most high CK goings-on. He does his part, he tells no one anything, abides by all the rules, does everything that's asked of him. Meanwhile, he's discovering the glories of being a god here on earth; adulated, he can do no wrong, compensated, he wants for nothing. But, despite his pleasure and comfort in this life, he is slowly schooled that TBMs are fools; there is no CK, JS was a con man, criminal, thief and rapist.

That group of fooled TBMs would have included him. He was deceived. Thete is no CK, and the only higher authority is money, and the threat of ruin if he ever tries to escape.

The thing for which he was contracted does not exist. The reciprocity is not equal to the terms to which he agreed. He has been spiritually and morally raped. His soul is a barren wasteland, and that was not his understanding of the contract. They used deceptive practices to elicit his agreement.

He should not suffer financial penalty for theor bad acts made in bad faith.

They have to protect TSCC from evil ex-mos and others who would twist and distort the truth against God's one true church. Well, that's a talking point for TBMs.

In reality, their strategy, which given their dire situation is probably a good one, is to take the heat (bad media/press and other publicity) rather than the even worse consequences from actually disclosing how they use "precious tithing funds".

Remember, we're not talking about honesty and integrity here; that went out the window a long time ago (or never was there, many would argue). It's like if someone has a nasty secret that if they disclosed to their spouse, family member or friend, would almost definitely cause an end to the relationship immediately. The secret holder has three choices:

1. End the relationship w/o disclosing -- secret remains intact, but relationship gone. If the risk of the secret coming out is high, the person might choose this option rather than going down in history as a rat. Not really an option for the church though, as getting the Q15 to all agree to shut down TSCC not likely (plus stops all tithing revenue);

2. Disclosing and taking the chance that the victim (spouse, friend, or members with TSCC) will forgive and forget. Great option, if they do, but highly unlikely if secret is a nasty one. The relationship will almost definitely die and, in the case of TSCC, the membership loss could be catastrophic -- not to mention all the accompanying heat in the media and everywhere else; or

3. Hold; don't disclose and tighten up the ship as much as possible to minimize the risk of the secret getting out. Given the huge risk of catastrophe for TSCC in option 2 (or the loss of an important personal relationship for an individual), this is what many individuals or organizations do. This is probably TSCC's best choice. Still risky, but probably far less so than the other options. It maintains a core membership and keeps lots of tithing revenue coming in, even if it's slowly diminishing as their lies come out online and elsewhere.

I don't like what they do, but I understand why they do it -- it's all about survival.

GC

In the fiery words of Dallin Hoax or the guy with the boxer jowels...Ive got an NDA...and im not afraid to use it...sounds like the contract for your soul with Stan...hes all about that secret stuff i hear...maybe he does run the house of handshakes

If this NDA matter is true it may seal the exit deal for many TBM's out there.

Hopefully Mike Quinn's new book will address this issue and perhaps even have a copy of the agreement.