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Posted by: John_norelation_Wayne ( )
Date: March 23, 2016 03:09PM

https://registration.baa.org/2013/cf/public/iframe_ResultsSearch.cfm?mode=results

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3505243/It-s-blessing-God-s-alive-American-Mormon-injured-brush-terrorism-Brussels-surviving-Boston-bombing-Paris-attacks.html


The reason this is upsetting is because MANY people were killed and harmed. EVERY survivor is remarkable but they are saying how his survival is so much more remarkable.

One the blasts occurred the clock stopped running. The course was closed. Runners were pulled off. The clock time said 4:09:43.


The fact of the matter is this. His mom finished 3:45. They couldn't have been waiting for her to finish. She would have already finished.

Boston Marathon is INCREDIBLY organized. THey have a finishers village with a "family reunion" staging area. One large area for the first letter of a runners last name.

Something isn't adding up. It's possible that she had finished and they were on their way to the finishers village. They would have been separated. They wouldn't have known if their mom is ok. Seems like something you'd mention "we didn't know if she was ok".

And somehow he "survived" paris because he was in the same city but a different area???? Something smells like fish.

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Posted by: John_norelation_Wayne ( )
Date: March 23, 2016 03:11PM

It's just weird. They were definitely there but it didn't happen how they said it happened. They could have even been back at the hotel.

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Posted by: foolmoon ( )
Date: March 23, 2016 03:20PM

It doesn't add up because it's fabricated, or at least heavily exaggerated. As simple as that.

TSCC just wants to use this kid as their newest poster boy.



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Posted by: adamisfree2006 ( )
Date: March 23, 2016 03:32PM

"The fact of the matter is this. His mom finished 3:45. They couldn't have been waiting for her to finish. She would have already finished."

The "official" race clock starts when the first runners leave the start and runs continuously. It is possible to run a 3:45 race but cross the line at 4:09. Depending on her "pace" she could have crossed the starting line 20-25 minutes after the official start since the start is staggered in waves.

I'm not defending his story or anything else, just giving some perspective on the Boston timing issue.

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Posted by: John_norelation_Wayne ( )
Date: March 23, 2016 04:14PM

True. 3:50:24 is what the clock said on her finishing picture. http://www.marathonfoto.com/Catalog/List/106383588?PIN=M17E55&LastName=WELLS

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Posted by: kestrafinn (not logged in) ( )
Date: March 24, 2016 10:26AM

The Boston Marathon is timed through chip timing. Each person's chip activates as they cross the start line individually, giving each person an accurate race time, despite the massive crowds running.

By this family's definition, I am a survivor of the Boston Marathon bombing, as I was working that day in an office building in Copley Square. I was probably as close as he was, as the medical, recovery, and rehydration tents are pitched in the lawn in front of Trinity Church.

I'm not. I'm a resident of Boston and happened to be in the proximity, but I would never be so arrogant to claim that, given the wounds (and deaths) suffered by so many.

Shame on him.

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Posted by: Doubting Thomas ( )
Date: March 23, 2016 03:37PM

I will chime in and say this... I saw the parents in a piece on CNN this morning and it was unsettling. It could have been the TBM vibe, or the dad who dressed like a teenager and had a fake tan. Maybe it was the mom who looked like a stressed out porn star. It could have even been the TBM mega mansion feel of the inside of their home.

Just because you were in downtown Boston doesn't equate that you "survived the attack."

Just sayin...

PS - The father says his son has been in THREE terrorist attacks. I guess he was in Paris last year when that city was bombed. So if I was in Long Island on business during 9/11 was I in the attacks on the World Trade Center?

Just askin...



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Posted by: notmonotloggedin ( )
Date: March 23, 2016 04:38PM

The attack occurred in NYC on Manhattan Island. Even those of us who were on Long Island that terrible day-we could see the smoke and smell the stench and many lost loved ones yet we don't speak of ourselves as being "in" the attack unless we were actually there in the city.

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Posted by: notmonotloggedin ( )
Date: March 23, 2016 04:40PM

People who were in other parts of the city may have been affected by the attack but I've never heard anyone say they were "in" the attack unless they were right there.

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Posted by: Soft Machine ( )
Date: March 24, 2016 06:58AM

Similarly, he "was in PAris at the time of the attack" in November. So was I and one of my daughters lives a few hundred yards from one of the cafés attacked and was at home at the time, but I wouldn't call either of us "survivors" of the attack.

The stretching to appear "faith-promoting" is dishonest.

Tom in Paris

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Posted by: Gentle Gentile ( )
Date: March 23, 2016 03:41PM

I was gonna accuse him of being the terrorist that got away, but attention whore works, too.

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Posted by: Visitors welcome ( )
Date: March 23, 2016 03:45PM

The same bullshit story was on the news tonight at VTM (a big Belgian broadcaster). No criticism whatsoever.

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Posted by: WTF? ( )
Date: March 23, 2016 03:55PM

<<An American Mormon missionary who was injured in the horrifying Brussels airport terrorist attack previously survived the Boston bombing and the Paris attacks.>>

WHAT THE HELL? He survived the Paris and Boston attacks? He was like 3 hours away from Paris -- how the hell can that be described as surviving it??

Looks like I survived the rape the happened in SLC last night, oh and also the armed robbery in Ogden and also the house fire in Payson!! God loves me, I'm a survivor -- ITS A MIRACLE!!!!

"..attention whore.." -Gentle Gentile

Couldn't have been said it better!

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Posted by: SL Cabbie ( )
Date: March 23, 2016 03:59PM

Paul H. Dunn and Douglas Stringfellow?

(I'll bet most RFm-ers have never heard of the latter)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_R._Stringfellow

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_H._Dunn



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Posted by: newnameabigail ( )
Date: March 23, 2016 04:13PM

It even made it to the german tv and newspaper. It is fishy.
Yes he survived all are happy. Story over. He just was in Parismissionborders when the attack had happen, I assume he was not even close since it was a time where he had to sit with his ass home in his save apartment, even when he were in Paris that time. (They happen between 9:20pm and 9:50pm)
But hey it makes a good story fo da Lawd, and clickbaiting newsheadlines to tell it that way. I feel ashamed for the hype they create for him and his companion. He is oh so blessed for sure Gawd has amazing plans with this future Profit.
Today I saw a meme passing around among MORmONS that showed the 2 boys: "LDS Missionaries: Stronger than a terror attack" srsly? There were 30+ people who just weren't "strong enough" to survive? How cannn be someone so respectless and shame those who didn't not survive? Their family? Friends?
I can't eat as much as I want to throw up!



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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: March 23, 2016 04:19PM

you should become a mormon because terrorist attacks do not kill mormons.

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Posted by: overit ( )
Date: March 23, 2016 04:20PM

I can only presume he is one of the three Nephites...

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Posted by: Phazer ( )
Date: March 23, 2016 04:28PM

Kid was probably within 50 miles of Boston at the time of the explosion. He "survived".

Reporters need catchy headlines.

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Posted by: Heartless ( )
Date: March 23, 2016 04:37PM

It doesn't matter if it is true or not as long as it is faith promoting.

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Posted by: Topper ( )
Date: March 23, 2016 04:56PM


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Posted by: Anon for this ( )
Date: March 23, 2016 05:13PM

This feels like the common mormon way of inflating one's importance. They were probably in Boston nearby but not in harms way. I find this a bit sickening. A good friend of mine who was a coworker several years ago was watching the finish with his wife. One of the bombers put the back-pack down 20 ft from where they were standing. Both of them had their feet nearly amputated by the blast, my friend is blind in one eye. I saw him being carried away with his bloody face on national television, something seemed very familiar about him but I did not realize it was my friend until his name appeared below a caption in a national webpage later that night.

I feel sorry for the missionary maimed in the attack but I get the sense his family is milking this.

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Posted by: Topper ( )
Date: March 23, 2016 09:44PM


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Posted by: John_norelation_Wayne ( )
Date: March 24, 2016 11:39AM

I read somewhere that one of the other missionaries(an elderly guy) was badly hurt and was in a coma when I read the article.
http://www.sltrib.com/home/3697807-155/mormon-missionary-from-utah-hurt-in

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Posted by: Lethbridge Reprobate ( )
Date: March 23, 2016 05:37PM

What are the chances of the CULT jigging time and place to their advantage to gain a PR advantage and make themselves or their missionaries/indentured slaves more appealing or newsworthy?....really??? Of course they would. Their injured servants are much more newsworthy than the poor civilians that were murdered!!

RB



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Posted by: Nightingale ( )
Date: March 23, 2016 09:40PM

I would say his number must be up. I think he should just come home. Soon. Very, very soon. But still, I'd hunker in the basement, or something, if I had had this many near misses.

As many say, I also find that sending out faith-promoting stories is incredibly insensitive to those who weren't so fortunate in these incidents.

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Posted by: ziller ( )
Date: March 23, 2016 10:16PM

IN B4 ~ Edelman Public Relations Worldwide



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Posted by: angelgirl ( )
Date: March 23, 2016 10:23PM

This guy must be the worst person in the world to be near! He's like a magnet for terrorists, if you believe his stories. Stay away, far away!

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Posted by: europa ( )
Date: March 24, 2016 05:49AM

Yeah and my husband was in Paris when the magazine offices were attacked and the latest ones near the Stade de France.

Neither of us were worried because he was on the other side of the city. Paris is a very very big place.

Typical arrogance that the church uses this story to boost its popularity. What about publishing a story every time a missionary dies, or is beaten up or raped or comes home with a fatal illness as a result of their missionary service.

These might just show though that a missionary is no more protected than any other person in a potentially dangerous environment.

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Posted by: Soft Machine ( )
Date: March 24, 2016 07:00AM


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Posted by: memikeyounot ( )
Date: March 24, 2016 09:58AM

Here's an "update" about this young man, from Snopes.com.

http://www.snopes.com/american-three-terrorist-attacks/

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Posted by: imaworkinonit ( )
Date: March 24, 2016 10:51AM

Very well written rebuttal to the news stories. It was both accurate, and sympathetic to the human need to find patterns and connections between events.

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Posted by: Chicken N. Backpacks ( )
Date: March 24, 2016 10:37AM

I hate to say it, but my first thought was: "Did his garments stop any of that shrapnel?"

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Posted by: NormaRae ( )
Date: March 24, 2016 10:39AM

Well, they're considering everyone who was at the Boston Marathon and everyone who was in France on the day of the bombings, "survivors." So we're all survivors of the Oklahoma City bombings if we were in the U.S. that day.



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