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Posted by: Quentin Cook ( )
Date: March 24, 2016 05:47PM

If you are a never Mormon person,can you live in any neighbourhood without any major problems of being discriminated against or snubbed?

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Posted by: Jilly ( )
Date: March 24, 2016 05:55PM

NO.

I was mostly TBM when I lived there, but I was an outsider in every sense of the word. I was from California. My hair was short (1980's). I dressed stylishly. I chose to live alone.

The shit potential employers asked me in interviews was like being in front of a dipshit, horny bishop. I lasted six months and got the hell out of Dodge.

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Posted by: quinlansolo ( )
Date: March 24, 2016 06:00PM


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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: March 24, 2016 06:04PM

But if you're filthy rich, demonstrate it amply and don't care what people think of you, your mormon neighbors will compete to be your friend. I wish there were an S, like 'frisend, so I could have written, "...your mormon neighbors will compete to be your fri$end..."

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Posted by: Anon i mouse ( )
Date: March 26, 2016 05:54AM

Well said Elderolddog! I was trying to say something similar. It has been my experience growing up in Provo that there is a different standard set for the rich/famous in Zion. Mormons are a case study in keeping up appearances. Which, is all it really is about. After all God "blesses those he really loves. "

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Posted by: annon1 ( )
Date: March 24, 2016 06:05PM

I lived in the Provo/Orem area for 3 years as a total TBM and I didn't feel comfortable. I can't imagine how it would be for a non-member.

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Posted by: donbagley ( )
Date: March 24, 2016 07:13PM

Like the Provo Privy, the city's kinda shitty.

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Posted by: Itzpapalotl ( )
Date: March 24, 2016 07:29PM

Not by my neighbors since I lived on a shady side of town, but definitely hassled by the fuzz on a regular basis.

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Posted by: Cheryl ( )
Date: March 24, 2016 07:43PM


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Posted by: Joe W ( )
Date: March 24, 2016 08:13PM

Depends on which part of Provo. Definitely not the Bench and probably not the Indian Hills area.

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Posted by: madalice ( )
Date: March 24, 2016 08:16PM

I visited there when I was TBM and couldn't stand the place. Ugh.

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: March 24, 2016 08:34PM

if god was going to give the earth an enema, Provo would be the place he would do it.

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Posted by: Off the fence ( )
Date: March 24, 2016 11:10PM

Orem is more tolerable

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Posted by: Sharapata ( )
Date: March 25, 2016 12:46AM

Really? I have never discerned any differences between the two cities.

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Posted by: Off the fence ( )
Date: March 25, 2016 05:53PM

I guess my experience is limited, comparing apartments by UVU versus apartments by BYU

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Posted by: dogeatdog ( )
Date: March 25, 2016 12:45AM

Lived there for 4 years as a non-mo and husband inactive. I would say no. People constantly try to group you by your relationship with the church. For example, I went to set up a checking account at the local US Bank - a conversation ensued about my having just moved there, and one of the first questions was, "which ward are you in". Most social activities revolve around church. It is more tolerable if you can befriend others who are non-mo, but, that can be a matter of chance.

At the time, I couldn't wait to move back home and was happy to finally do it. In hindsight, I have realized it was the most unhappy I have been in my life and I think it's because I felt isolated (even though I was married) because it's very difficult to become socially involved, have a sense of community, and find others you can relate to. My husband managed to find two friends - one inactive and one non-mo, who had the same hobbies as him, while I struggled to find women who were similar to me.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/25/2016 12:48AM by dogeatdog.

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Posted by: anon for this, regular poster ( )
Date: March 25, 2016 02:39PM

I don't feel comfortable visiting Utah, and one reason I love living in California is that there's a state between me and Utah.

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Posted by: donbagley ( )
Date: March 25, 2016 02:51PM

and vast deserts, through which I shall never pass again. California, here I stay.

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Posted by: kolobian ( )
Date: March 25, 2016 02:41PM

I could.

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Posted by: NormaRae ( )
Date: March 25, 2016 03:05PM

Comfortably? No.

Utah is a shithole as it is. But Provo. Did you ever see "The Green Berets," with John Wayne. If you did, you know what I'm referring to.

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Posted by: subeamnotlogedin ( )
Date: March 25, 2016 05:08PM

Look what I have found more answers to your question.

http://exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,75973,75992

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Posted by: ificouldhietokolob ( )
Date: March 25, 2016 05:18PM

Some do, apparently.
I couldn't.
I tried for about 1.5 years.
It was awful.
I ran back to California as fast as I could.

Things like getting pulled over by the cops just for walking out of a 7-11 with a cup of coffee (which happened to me at least 4 times) got really old. Every "neighbor" constantly inviting me to come to church got even older. The awful treatment I got from those same neighbors once I stopped politely declining, but instead told them I was an RM who had left and was never going back, was the worst.

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Posted by: Devoted Exmo ( )
Date: March 25, 2016 05:25PM

I'm in the camp with the other TBMs who couldn't stand the place while a member of the club. Do you think you'd be comfortable on planet Kolob? In the Celestial Kingdom with those insufferable clowns?

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Posted by: verilyverily ( )
Date: March 25, 2016 06:07PM

NO! Why would a non-Mo want to live in Provo?

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Posted by: verilyverily ( )
Date: March 27, 2016 01:07AM

"but no one has tried to push me into anything" - this is so not true. Who do you think the lawmakers are in Utah and especially Provo? You are being pushed into so much Mo-ism it is pathetic. They just disguise it under the name "laws."

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Posted by: GodLedMeOut nli ( )
Date: March 25, 2016 06:13PM

DH and I moved to Provo five months ago. Heading back to California in two weeks.

Our landlord graciously cancelled our lease because we have been so sick here.

Once we came here to visit with our little shih tzu. Going home, heading west, she sat on the center console and wouldn't turn her head left or right until we were home!

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Posted by: Xyandro ( )
Date: March 25, 2016 06:17PM

You realize you're getting a biased sample, right? Many of the people who post here, me included, are (justifiably) quite angry with the Mormon church, and often Mormons in general by association.

I live in Orem, which seems basically the same as Provo. Mormon stuff does come up on a regular basis but no one has tried to push me into anything. (Granted, my personality is such that I won't be pushed.)

Like most places, it's what you make of it. I usually hang out with non-Mormons (there are lots, even in Orem/Provo), but I get along fine with my Mormon coworkers.

If your goal is to forget Mormonism exists, this isn't a good place for it. If you just want to do your own thing, the movie theaters and Costco are empty on Sundays, and there are lots of people who aren't Mormon anymore and will let you vent (and vent back). Hell, Provo even hosts a Pride!

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Posted by: Agnes Broomhead ( )
Date: April 09, 2016 10:10PM

Xyandro Wrote:
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> If your goal is to forget Mormonism exists, this
> isn't a good place for it. If you just want to do
> your own thing, the movie theaters and Costco are
> empty on Sundays, and there are lots of people who
> aren't Mormon anymore and will let you vent (and
> vent back). Hell, Provo even hosts a Pride!

There are some places open on Sunday, and the great thing is, you'll know everyone there isn't TBM.

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Posted by: eldorado ( )
Date: March 25, 2016 06:25PM

Not in Provo but in the same county.Its doable but really, really hard and It kind of makes you crazy at times.We are trying to get out of Utah county or out of Utah if possible right now.

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Posted by: Stray Mutt ( )
Date: March 25, 2016 07:27PM

Of all the places one could possibly live, why Provo?

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: March 26, 2016 08:06AM

I have a niece (actually two,) who are inactive LDS and both living in Provo.

One is a RN who recently married her live-in boyfriend, and seems quite happy there with her life.

The other doesn't seem happy but that isn't because she lives in Provo. She was not happy before she moved there, she was cut off by my brother and his wife because she was no longer useful to them. She was their oldest adopted daughter, and kept as an indentured servant to their younger children while she was growing up.

She was stigmatized early on in her home life. It has nothing to do with her living in Provo. Provo probably does exacerbate her feeling isolated because she doesn't relate well to Mormons. My dad used to tell me how sorry he felt for her when she was growing up in my brother's house. She didn't get to go to public school because her parents said she wasn't smart enough. So she was their maidservant and nanny while my sister-in-law slept half the day. Once she was grown up and no longer useful to them she was forced to move out, but with no life skills or education to help her gain her independence. My dad would say she was highly intelligent. My brother and his wife just destroyed her self-worth. They don't even check on her or try to assist her now she's been on her own. She's now like a forgotten child to them. Like their other grown adopted children. It makes me angry when I think about it.

They are smug self-righteous TBM's if there ever were any, especially the sister-in-law. From what my niece has told me she now attends church elsewhere, but not LDS.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/26/2016 08:09AM by Amyjo.

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Posted by: UTtransplant ( )
Date: March 26, 2016 10:43AM

Are you looking for a place to live while working in one of the tech companies in Provo? Be careful with the company too. Some are very accommodating and not primarily LDS, but some are. (Hint:If you don't see a coffee machine in a prominent place, run the other way!) There are other places to live if you want/need to work in the area. The farther north you go, the more non-LDS you find. I personally go to Provo only to visit one particular store or to special displays at the museum. The vibe is just odd, and there are far too many Stepford-wives-types.

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Posted by: neverevermo ( )
Date: April 15, 2016 04:28PM

NO. hell on earth. The loneliest, most isolating place. I wouldn't wish it on anyone

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