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Posted by: anonski2! ( )
Date: April 02, 2016 08:17PM

I kid you not...

Priesthood Session :/

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Posted by: scmd ( )
Date: April 02, 2016 08:21PM

This is rich. I always miss the good stuff.

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Posted by: Chicken N. Backpacks ( )
Date: April 02, 2016 08:22PM

I talk to the trees....but they don't listen to me.

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Posted by: scmd ( )
Date: April 02, 2016 08:29PM

Chicken N. Backpacks Wrote:
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> I talk to the trees....but they don't listen to
> me.


Interesting coincidence. I talk to the birds, but THEY never hear ME.

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Posted by: baura ( )
Date: April 03, 2016 02:32PM

Chicken N. Backpacks Wrote:
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> I talk to the trees....but they don't listen to
> me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P1qnd65IjM

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Posted by: Anonymous User ( )
Date: April 02, 2016 08:24PM

This kind of bs was a staple of the ward I grew up in.

People said they spoke to dead people, saw demons, 1 bishop said he saw Satan, & others said that they witnessed demonic possession.

The craziest story I ever heard though, wasn't from my ward, but was told at a multi-stake fireside. Someone tried to say that someone they knew was translated into the spirit world because they were so righteous.

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Posted by: PeacePrincess ( )
Date: April 02, 2016 08:52PM

Sounds an awful lot like "Sixth Sense!" I see dead people!

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"1 bishop said he saw Satan, & others said that they witnessed demonic possession."

Doesn't surprise me in the least. Damn Satanic cult!

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Posted by: Anonymous User ( )
Date: April 02, 2016 08:59PM

I have said this before, & I'll say it again.

The cult is not Satanic. It is just a fucking scam that uses cult tactics to steal money & time.

These people weren't Satanic. They were just extremely stupid & susceptible to suggestion.

All this talk of the cult being Satanic takes away from the fact of what the cult really is, & the truth of how it harms people.

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Posted by: William Law ( )
Date: April 03, 2016 12:14AM

Agreed. "Godly", "Christ-like", etc. all shit words--biased propaganda talk.

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Posted by: nomonomo ( )
Date: April 03, 2016 01:24PM

Tristan Wrote:
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> I have said this before, & I'll say it again.
>
> The cult is not Satanic. It is just a fucking scam
> that uses cult tactics to steal money & time.
>
> These people weren't Satanic. They were just
> extremely stupid & susceptible to suggestion.
>
> All this talk of the cult being Satanic takes away
> from the fact of what the cult really is, & the
> truth of how it harms people.


Sure it's a scam, and false, etc, but there's no disputing that the many influences woven together into Joseph's Myth included the occult. And it should be no surprise that these elements--whether they are false or not--appeal to certain people.

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Posted by: Anonymous User ( )
Date: April 03, 2016 02:43PM

I don't think these elements are legimately occultic. Just made up bullshit that just looks vaguely occultic, but actually isn't.

The people I knew in the cult were deeply afraid of demons & Satan, & so they were susceptible to suggestion. The suggestion that Satan & demons were truly out to get them.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/03/2016 02:44PM by Tristan.

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Posted by: 33MG7 ( )
Date: April 03, 2016 05:50PM

Tristan Wrote:
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> I don't think these elements are legimately
> occultic. Just made up bullshit that just looks
> vaguely occultic, but actually isn't.


Legitimately occultic? The occult is NOT legitimate. It too is "just made up bullshit." The entirety of TSCC is made up bullshit that looks vaguely religious. Not just some of it, all of it. The whole toxic stew. So why be worried about which component of it is legitimate or not? None of it is legit.

Some people like the "reorganized church," or "we're speshul," or "families are forever," and some like "baptizing the dead," or "seeing dead people at the temple." Whatever their heart desires.

TSCC doesn't care what you believe--doctrine, culture, etc--as long as you pay.


Tristan Wrote:
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> The people I knew in the cult were deeply afraid
> of demons & Satan, & so they were susceptible to
> suggestion. The suggestion that Satan & demons
> were truly out to get them.


I would suggest that to these people, the occult components of the church are very real. Things don't have to be true to inspire fear or creepy warm fuzzies in those who believe it to be true. And, again, TSCC doesn't care what you believe as long as you pay.


TSCC is made up bullshit from start to finish, and top to bottom. There is no part of it that's more or less "legitimately" bullshit than all the other parts. Joseph's Myth is brain vomit of every quasi-spritual thing he ever encountered, woven together with his imaginary tweaks and twists, and a lot of his personal perversion thrown in for good measure.

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Posted by: Anonymous User ( )
Date: April 03, 2016 06:13PM

I used the word "legitimately" meaning things that from recognized occultic beliefs. Not that it is real or anything like that.

Of course it is all made up & fake. Also, I have known people from other "churches" that also think Satan & Demons are out to get them. This fear is not exclusive to the cult. They don't believe in occultic elements or beliefs either.

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Posted by: lurking in ( )
Date: April 03, 2016 06:06PM

Correct, early Mormonism had many occult influences. D. Michael Quinn wrote a book about this topic several years ago. You can find a short review of his book, "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," here:

http://signaturebooks.com/early-mormonism-and-the-magic-world-view/

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Posted by: Anonymous User ( )
Date: April 03, 2016 06:15PM

I have heard about this. I took it as JS not really knowing anything about what was considered to be recognized occultic beliefs, but just making up new things for symbols & such.

Also, I do not believe the occult is real. It is made up completely.

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Posted by: donbagley ( )
Date: April 02, 2016 08:25PM

Maybe he was teaching a gospel doctrine class at the time.

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Posted by: jiminycricket ( )
Date: April 02, 2016 08:32PM

Well, when Monson kicks the bucket, Nelson will be president and CEO of LDS Inc.

Maybe his conference talks will tell us how much help it is for him to talk to Monson, who is dead.

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Posted by: upThink ( )
Date: April 02, 2016 08:49PM

Conveniently, Nelson stated that he didn't see or hear them with his physical senses... But it was with his "spiritual" senses... (sound familiar?)... Then he proceeded to repeat the "message" the two dead little girls had for him...

"spiritual senses" = license to make up an inspiring story that TBMs can mount on their walls

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Posted by: Anonymous User ( )
Date: April 02, 2016 08:50PM

Why does this sound like Nelson read "The Shining"? :D

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Posted by: SEcular Priest ( )
Date: April 02, 2016 08:57PM

What?

"Nielson talks to Dead People!"
Why is he not talking to God and Jesus and telling us what they are telling him?
That is what he is sustained and called to do!

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Posted by: Anonymous User ( )
Date: April 02, 2016 09:14PM

I was talking about "The Shining" by Stephen King, published in 1977. The young boy Danny has psychic abilities, & can see dead people. & of course, Kubrick adapted it, but missed the main point of the book & changed things. The direct, more literal miniseries adaptation in 1998 sucked, even though it was 98% faithful.

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Posted by: lurking in ( )
Date: April 03, 2016 06:28AM


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Posted by: Jerry ( )
Date: April 03, 2016 06:00PM

Does Tommy talk through his finger?

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Posted by: Lily, not logged in ( )
Date: April 02, 2016 08:57PM

HOLY HELL. I'm listening to it right now and it's SO manipulative. Does this man have a mental illness or just a lack of conscience?

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Posted by: riverogue ( )
Date: April 02, 2016 09:06PM

Probably both

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Posted by: Trails end ( )
Date: April 02, 2016 09:02PM

Hey Russ...have a snickers...you talk crazy when your hungry

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Posted by: angela ( )
Date: April 02, 2016 09:17PM

Dr. Nelson, you have a medical degree. You know talking to dead people is a sign you should see a doctor, particularly a neurologist or psychiatrist

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Posted by: axeldc ( )
Date: April 02, 2016 09:29PM


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Posted by: Lethbridge Reprobate ( )
Date: April 02, 2016 10:36PM

Maybe that was when he was cutting on people in his role as their heart surgeon??

RB

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Posted by: Greyfort ( )
Date: April 02, 2016 10:51PM

You're kidding. Now there's one I haven't heard before.

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Posted by: Anonymous User ( )
Date: April 03, 2016 12:16AM

Someone made a meme about it! :D

https://m.imgur.com/5hLFd57?r

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Posted by: Plaid n Paisley ( )
Date: April 03, 2016 03:25AM

So, far his speech isn't available to view. There must be some editing work going on. Too bad I missed it the first time around.

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Posted by: Shinehahbeam ( )
Date: April 03, 2016 09:04AM

It seems "the brethren" are doubling down on stupid. I was predicting less "one true church" talk, no revelation/vision talk, more talk on doubt like the last several conferences, etc... It's been the opposite of everything I was expecting...except for the double dose of boring and that lady's annoying primary voice.

Nelson didn't see or hear anything, but he "sensed" their presence and message about not being sealed? That was enough for him to go manipulate an 88 year old man into wasting his last days getting to the temple?

Oh!...wait... I'm sensing something! I don't see or hear anything, but...yep...the message is short and clear..."You're full of shit!". Tommy?...Russell?...Does that mean anything to either of you?

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Posted by: Heartless ( )
Date: April 03, 2016 10:47AM

Talking with or receiving messages "through the veil" used to be a Mormon staple.

How many dead people did Joseph and company converse with?

The trend faded in the 60s/70s then I think died with correlation.

I could write volumes of all the stories I heard growing up.

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Posted by: whinny ( )
Date: April 03, 2016 04:14PM

I heard lots of stories too. It used to be considered "faith promoting" to tell tales of seeing dead relatives in the temple. I think the talk may be a green light to bring back all the stories. Now they'll be "sensing" with their spiritual sensing powers instead of seeing or hearing, but whatever...

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Posted by: 6 iron ( )
Date: April 03, 2016 11:22AM

I talk to my golf balls..

GO IN THE HOLE

They usually don't listen

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Posted by: Friend ( )
Date: April 03, 2016 04:18PM

This supernatural stuff is needed if they are to keep any members active. It's motivation!

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