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Posted by: NeverBeenaMormon ( )
Date: May 07, 2016 06:36PM

Can anyone share any knowledge/links on Fanny Alger's life after her relationship with Horny Joe?

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Posted by: Greyfort ( )
Date: May 07, 2016 06:40PM

Wikipedia says:

"Joseph Smith asked Fanny's uncle, Levi Hancock, to conduct her to Missouri, but she accompanied her parents instead. The Algers stopped in Dublin, Wayne County, Indiana, and there Fanny met and, on November 16, 1838, married Solomon Custer, a non-Mormon, listed in various censuses as a grocer, baker, and merchant. Although her parents continued on their way to Nauvoo, Illinois, and eventually Utah Territory, the Custers remained in Indiana. Fanny bore nine children, only two of whom survived her. In 1874, she joined the Universalist church in Dublin. Her funeral was held at the Dublin church after she died at the home of her son in Indianapolis, Indiana, on November 29, 1889.[3]

Many years later, an early acquaintance remembered the young Alger of Kirtland as a "very nice and comely young woman ... toward whom ... everyone seemed partial for the amiability of her character."[4] Her obituary reported that in Indiana she was "generally beloved by all who knew her and was noted for her benevolence of spirit and generous-heartedness.""

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Posted by: NeverBeenaMormon ( )
Date: May 07, 2016 07:01PM

"amiability of her character"...................if you know what I mean

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Posted by: NeverBeenaMormon ( )
Date: May 07, 2016 07:04PM

Interesting, thank you. So even though she'd been living with and seen close up a man who was constantly receiving messges from God, was His mouthpiece on Earth and lived a moral life of holiness she didn't want to stay a member of his church.

Almost as if she'd realised that none of that was true!

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Posted by: Forgetting Abigail ( )
Date: May 07, 2016 07:05PM

She's buried in Dublin, Indiana.

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Posted by: NeverBeenaMormon ( )
Date: May 07, 2016 07:07PM

Do any sources reveal how Joe reacted when Fanny didn't appear in Missouri?

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Posted by: Greyfort ( )
Date: May 07, 2016 07:35PM

I knew she had married and had kids, but I didn't realize that it was outside of the Church, or that it was so many kids.

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Posted by: Hedning ( )
Date: May 07, 2016 08:10PM

Anybody know the approximate date, does the church give a sealing date to JS?

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Posted by: Shinehahbeam ( )
Date: May 09, 2016 02:24PM

There was no sealing. Joe hadn't even thought up the "sealing power" at that point. There's no way for the "church" to say this was anything other than an affair.

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Posted by: snuckafoodberry ( )
Date: May 10, 2016 12:29AM

Very interesting

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: February 19, 2017 11:01PM

That's why the heading to D&C 132 says something like "the prophet may have received the revelation as early as 1831." The people who wrote that gloss knew that JS had had a number of earlier affairs and were trying to provide a plausible "cover" for them by suggesting JS already understood, and was living, divinely-sanctioned polygamy.

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Posted by: Doubting Thomas ( )
Date: May 07, 2016 09:10PM

She was lucky. After such a close association with Joseph Smith, she was able to leave Mormonism all behind and live a full life.

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: May 07, 2016 09:34PM

Considering she was raped by Joseph she was wise to leave that past behind for a better life ahead than anything he offered her. What exactly did he provide for his multiple wives? Emma kept all their property upon his death. His other "wives" collected nothing for their services.

Fanny was sexploited. That's all she was to Joseph, a sex object.

She grew up. Joseph died in his folly.

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Posted by: kathleen ( )
Date: May 09, 2016 11:08AM

If Fanny had two perfectly good parents, why did she ever live with Joseph Smith and Emma?

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Posted by: randyj ( )
Date: May 09, 2016 01:56PM

"If Fanny had two perfectly good parents, why did she ever live with Joseph Smith and Emma?"

She worked in the Smith home as a servant and nanny. She was known as Nanny Fanny.

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Posted by: Doubting Thomas ( )
Date: May 09, 2016 10:55PM

Make that "Nanny with the hot fanny!"

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Posted by: icedtea ( )
Date: May 09, 2016 02:45PM

It was very common during that time period for teen girls to hire out as domestic helpers. They earned money and experience that would be useful when they married and had families of their own. There were not a lot of ways for young women to earn income (back before fast-food jobs) and much more physical labor involved in running a home and supplying a family than now, so it's not surprising that Fanny and many others did so.

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Posted by: Hedning ( )
Date: May 09, 2016 04:54PM

I don't think any Mormon woman who looks into who the young women were that Joseph forced into his Harem could tolerate thinking of him as a Prophet, Seer and Revelator. Just a simple look at the list looks like 5 women who were in his household help, lodging or care. The guy was a sexual predator plain and simple.

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Posted by: abcdomg ( )
Date: May 09, 2016 05:16PM

For those of us whose families go back to the beginning, there is that terrible moment when you realize your female ancestors rarely if ever had a choice when it came to who they had sex with. "Consensual sex" was not a concept that existed in the church up until a few years ago, and even now it is dismissed in many abusive, church-approved relationships.

In the past, our female ancestors were forced to marry and have sex their whole lives whether or not they wanted it, and no one came to rescue them. Fanny was fortunate, but her story of escape was also extremely rare.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/09/2016 05:17PM by abcdomg.

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Posted by: fanny distant relative ( )
Date: February 19, 2017 01:01PM

kathleen Wrote:
> If Fanny had two perfectly good parents, why did
> she ever live with Joseph Smith and Emma?

I am a distant relative of Fanny and am doing research on all of this. My great great great grandfather was Fanny's younger brother John by 3 years. John became a polygamist and his son, my great great grandfather was apparently a lost boy who was put out by John. I don't know how much of the stories I've been told are 100% true or not... But here's one story that I don't think can be debated, you can just do the math yourself. If you are a 16 year old girl with parents that are gullible enough to join a church where a young 20 something year old glass looker says "hey I saw God and here's the new religion" I think it's safe to say they must have been a very naive family. That doesn't make them bad, just naive. If Fanny was raised by this family with the same naiveté and innocence, then can we stop saying "Fanny had an affair with Joseph Smith?" Naive 16 year old girls do not have affairs with married men. Especially back then. I think there is an obvious conclusion. This girl was preyed upon and her family was too gullible to stop it.

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Posted by: Soft Machine ( )
Date: February 19, 2017 01:46PM

Very true :-/

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Posted by: liesarenotuseful ( )
Date: February 19, 2017 03:39PM

that is a fascinating story about John, and his son, the lost boy. So sad.

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Posted by: drilldoc ( )
Date: May 09, 2016 02:19PM

Joe was more interested in the fanny than the nanny.

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Posted by: sd ( )
Date: May 11, 2016 04:35PM

she was doing porno in the San Fernando valley.

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Posted by: Elder What's-his-face ( )
Date: May 11, 2016 07:40PM

As a widow, she often took pleasure in baking pies for Thomas Monson when he would pass by the back window.

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Posted by: NoJo ( )
Date: February 20, 2017 10:49PM

Thank you for the background on Fanny, (fanny distant relative).

I agree with you completely that Fanny's parents were naive and she was an innocent.

I believe the majority of the early Saint were uneducated, naive and dirt poor. Others saw an opportunity to attach themselves to the con man, Joe, and increase their personal wealth and standing in Joe's small pond. He gladly sucked in those he knew he could manipulate, for either their naivety or their compatible dishonesty.

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