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Posted by: en passant ( )
Date: June 16, 2016 11:32AM

There's been a lot of outrage expressed on this forum in the past few days about the response of average Mormons to the Orlando Massacre. Here's a different approach from Utah's Lt. Gov. Spencer Cox, who spoke at a vigil in SLC last Monday evening. I posted the entire text from HuffingtonPost.com because the link has a banned word in it. You can easily find the orignal and the interesting comments over on HuffPost.

Ladies and Gentlemen,

Thank you for being here tonight on this very solemn and somber occasion. I begin with an admission and an apology. First, I recognize fully that I am a balding, youngish middle-aged, straight, white, male, Republican politician ... with all of the expectations and privileges that come with those labels. I am probably not who you expected to hear from today.

I’m here because yesterday morning, 49 Americans were brutally murdered. And it made me sad. And it made me angry. And it made me confused. I’m here because those 49 people were gay. I’m here because it shouldn’t matter. But I’m here because it does. I am not here to tell you that I know exactly what you are going through. I am not here to tell you that I feel your pain. I don’t pretend to know the depths of what you are feeling right now. But I do know what it feels like to be scared. And I do know what it feels like to be sad. And I do know what it feels like to be rejected. And, more importantly, I know what it feels like to be loved.

I grew up in a small town and went to a small rural high school. There were some kids in my class that were different. Sometimes I wasn’t kind to them. I didn’t know it at the time, but I know now that they were gay. I will forever regret not treating them with the kindness, dignity and respect — the love — that they deserved. For that, I sincerely and humbly apologize.

Over the intervening years, my heart has changed. It has changed because of you. It has changed because I have gotten to know many of you. You have been patient with me. You helped me learn the right letters of the alphabet in the right order even though you keep adding new ones. You have been kind to me. Jim Dabakis even told me I dressed nice once, even though I know he was lying. You have treated me with the kindness, dignity and respect — the love — that I very often did not deserve. And it has made me love you.

But now we are here. We are here because 49 beautiful, amazing people are gone. These are not just statistics. These were individuals. These are human beings. They each have a story. They each had dreams, goals, talents, friends, family. They are you and they are me. And one night they went out to relax, to laugh, to connect, to forget, to remember. And in a few minutes of chaos and terror, they were gone.

I believe that we can all agree we have come a long way as a society when it comes to our acceptance and understanding of the LGBTQ community (did I get that right?). However, there has been something about this tragedy that has very much troubled me. I believe that there is a question, two questions actually, that each of us needs to ask ourselves in our heart of hearts. And I am speaking now to the straight community. How did you feel when you heard that 49 people had been gunned down by a self-proclaimed terrorist? That’s the easy question. Here is the hard one: Did that feeling change when you found out the shooting was at a gay bar at 2 a.m. in the morning? If that feeling changed, then we are doing something wrong.

So now we find ourselves at a crossroads. A crossroads of hate and terror. How do we respond? How do you respond? Do we lash out with anger, hate and mistrust? Or do we, as Lincoln begged, appeal to the “better angels of our nature”?

Usually when tragedy occurs, we see our nation come together. I was saddened yesterday to see far too many retreating to their over-worn policy corners and demagoguery. Let me be clear — there are no simple policy answers to this tragedy. Beware of anyone who tells you that they have the easy solution. It doesn’t exist. And I can assure you this — that calling people idiots, communists, fascists or bigots on Facebook is not going to change any hearts or minds. Today we need fewer Republicans and fewer Democrats. Today we need more Americans.

But just because an easy solution doesn’t exist doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try. The greatest generations in the history of the world were never innately great. They became great because of how they responded in the face of evil. Their humanity is measured by their response to hate and terror.

I truly believe that this is the defining issue of our generation. Can we be brave? Can we be strong? Can we be kind and, perhaps, even happy in the face of atrocious acts of hate and terrorism? Do we find a way to unite? Or do these atrocities further corrode and divide our torn nation? Can we, the citizens of the great state of Utah, lead the nation with love in the face of adversity? Can we become a greatest generation?

I promise we can. But I also promise it will never happen if we leave it to the politicians. Ultimately, there is only one way for us to come together. It must happen at a personal level. We must learn to truly love one another.
The Prophet Muhammad is reported to have said, “You will not enter paradise until you believe, and you will not believe until you love one another.”

Jesus said, “Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you and persecute you.”

Now, you know a little something about hate. And you know a little something about persecution. But you also know something about loving, blessing and doing good. What our country needs more than ever is less politics and more kindness. If nothing else, as we can see here tonight, this tragedy has the potential to bring us closer than ever before.

And so may we leave today with a resolve to be a little kinder. May we try to listen more and talk less. May we forgive someone that has wronged us. And perhaps, most importantly, try to love someone that is different than us. For my straight friends, might I suggest starting with someone who is gay?

I leave you with the words of Lyndon B. Johnson. They were spoken at another very sad time in our history, the death of President John F. Kennedy. He said this:

“Our enemies have always made the same mistake. In my lifetime — in depression and in war — they have awaited our defeat. Each time, from the secret places of the American heart, came forth the faith they could not see or that they could not even imagine. It brought us victory. And it will again. For this is what America is all about.”

On behalf of the 3 million people of the state of Utah, we are Orlando. We love you. And I love you.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: June 16, 2016 11:46AM

I guess it's a sad thing that I am wondering what his political goals are, because he has to know his brilliant message will not resonate in Utah, but will resonate on a national level.

Can anyone provide a pedigree on the this politician?

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Posted by: memikeyounot ( )
Date: June 16, 2016 12:37PM

He seems to be a decent guy, and he's been in politics for about 10 years now. I am sure that he has a big future in Republican politics, if not in Utah due to his powerful speech.

And a bonus, per Wikipedia: His brother-in-law, Travis Osmond, the son of Merrill Osmond, taught him how to play the bass.

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Posted by: Devoted Exmo ( )
Date: June 16, 2016 12:51PM

Nice message. But we need solutions rather than more sentiment. Everybody else seems to be able to come up with some ideas.

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Posted by: PapaKen ( )
Date: June 16, 2016 12:57PM

I'll believe a political or religious leader truly supports & loves the LGBTQ community when s/he gets in line to donate blood to help the wounded in this (or any) massacre.

President Obama?
Clinton?
Trump?
Monson?
Apostles?
GAs?
Pope Francis?
Cardinals?
Priests?
Pastors?
Rabbis?
Muslim leaders?


What a wonderful way that would be to show support and love.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/16/2016 12:59PM by PapaKen.

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Posted by: en passant ( )
Date: June 16, 2016 01:39PM

Yes. Words, no action.

As Lt. Gov. he has no official capacity to initiate any action. In his home Ward next Sunday, some people will tell him they liked the speech, but most will just give him the cold shoulder. The subject will not be discussed from the pulpit, or in class. If he attempts to bring it up he will be shut down either actively or passively. After this dies down it's doubtful you will find him on the bully pulpit at risk of his political career, his church life, or his social circle, and he will go right back to being himself as he described himself.

To give credit where credit is due, he did say this:

"I believe that there is a question, two questions actually, that each of us needs to ask ourselves in our heart of hearts. And I am speaking now to the straight community. How did you feel when you heard that 49 people had been gunned down by a self-proclaimed terrorist? That’s the easy question. Here is the hard one: Did that feeling change when you found out the shooting was at a gay bar at 2 a.m. in the morning? If that feeling changed, then we are doing something wrong."

I hope it makes a few people question themselves, but the people that needed to hear it weren't there.

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Posted by: silvergenie ( )
Date: June 16, 2016 07:02PM

Great words, but as PapaKen pointed out - "no action". How much more impact would the words of Utah's Lt. Gov. Spencer Cox, have had nationally and internationally if he had lined up to give blood too? By their deeds ye shall know them.

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