Where have I heard this before?

The elephants, hippos, etc. are assigned inside cabins below the crew decks where the engine room would normally be in order to maintain a lower center of gravity.

Noah wasn't a dummy....

No one ever thinks about what they did will all the animal poop and pee and the *tonnes* of food (i.e. other animals) required to feed them. SHAZAM! Just say all the animals were frozen in celestial suspended animation. Problem Solved.

LOL! Nice keel! No problem in heavy seas--nope, no problem at all!

Somewhere in some sweaty corner of the afterlife P.T. Barnum is kicking himself for not thinking of this first...

What happened after the flood was over and the ark landed on Mt Ararat? If there were two each of every animal on board, male and female, and they were turned loose, what exactly did the carnivores use as a food source. Everything was destroyed in the flood, so how could these animals live without eating each other.

It’s kind of hard to repopulate the world with Zebras when one of them became dinner for a couple of lions.
I remember asking this question the first time I heard the Noah’s Ark story as a child.

This guy in Kentucky also had dinosaurs on board the Ark. Maybe that’s what they ate—thus the dinosaurs are no longer with us.

I have a lot of hope for mankind, then someone like Mr. Ken Ham comes along and makes me wonder.

I guess those who take the Genesis myth as literal science would explain that the dinosaurs that were on the Ark were eaten by the carnivores, including carnivorous dinosaurs.

Good Point! Never thought of that.

"This guy in Kentucky also had dinosaurs on board the Ark. Maybe that’s what they ate—thus the dinosaurs are no longer with us."

That reminds me of this hilarious scene from The Big Bang Theory:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAjhkC8PlyI

Sheldon asked his fundy Christian mother: "What did they feed the lions, mother?"

Mother replied: "The floating bodies of drowned sinners."

This is a common misconception. Noah's Ark wasnt designed for travel like all other boats are. Noah didnt need a mast because he wasnt trying to follow the wind or go anywhere in particular. The only thing Noah needed was a boat that could float with a roof for protection and an anchor. The boat didnt need a keel because it didnt need a mast.

I seriously know not one practical thing about sailing, but I have tipped over in a canoe, and it strikes me that because the Ark was without motive power, how would it keep from wallowing and then simply rolling over, like my canoe?

@elderolddog : The ark would have used an anchor like most ships do to keep from being tipped over.

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> @elderolddog : The ark would have used an anchor
> like most ships do to keep from being tipped over.

How did it move from North America (Garden of Eden) to Mount Ararat if it was anchored?

@Darren Steers
Maybe you should ask a Mormon since I dont agree with the premise that the Garden of Eden was in Missouri. I am sure that the ark would only have to have been anchored while it rained. It probably drifted about after the rain some.

Actually a boat that is going to experience waves needs to be oriented into the waves. Or it may tilt and sink. So an anchor would work, and still be required.

When it stopped raining I'd assume there were still waves. Why wouldn't there be?

I like reading the news stories about how the parking lot is empty and nobody is flocking to see this abomination.

RB

My question was always, what about the plants? Submerge most plants and they die.

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> My question was always, what about the plants?
> Submerge most plants and they die.

They died.

As did all the fresh water life forms, since they are not huge fans of being submerged in salty sea water for an extended period of time.



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@Heartless
The land plants would probably die from the flood but their seeds wouldnt. The seeds would then be able to repopulate the world with the plant.

"The land plants would probably die from the flood but their seeds wouldnt. The seeds would then be able to repopulate the world with the plant."

You got any thoughts on how numerous groups of humans all over the globe have continuously occupied their areas for 50,000+ years, with no evidence of a great flood interrupting their lives?

I keep wondering how the koalas, kangaroos, echidnas, wallabies, wombats, numbats, quokkas ( look them up...cute as ) etc managed to survive all the way from Turkey to Australia. Koalas only eat the leaves of a certain type of eucalyptus..I hope Noah remembered to nip down to Oz for a plentiful supply before the rain started.

How any sane person can believe the Noah story is beyond me.

Utnapishtim

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Preserver_of_Life

Someone ought to build a scale model of that ark and see how much ballast it needs to stay upright. In wind and waves I bet it rolls over and sinks. You would need a lot of the hull's volume filled up with ballast, and even then it likely would wallow like a pig in rough seas, breaking bones and stores. (I have personally tipped over canoes, kayaks, inner tubes, and a sailboat, and so am an expert in such things.)

Just ask any mechanical engineer or ship designer why there are no big ships built of wood over a certain size. It was tried several times over the centuries and it turns out there is a practical limit. Even a combination of iron plates and wood did not work out.

It all has to do with the intrinsic strength of wood--all scientific theory of course, something Noah's Ark believers give no merit too.

That $100 million dollar wooden fiasco in Kentucky, as pictured, would not stay floating for very long. Throw in an ocean going environment with a storm or two--well, the whole story can't pass the most rudimentary application of logic nor any of the most basic principles of science.

Me thinks Mr. Ken Ham does not have the brains that God gave a Crow Bar.

@invinoveritas
That is because those ships were built for sailing from one point to another. Noah's Ark was built to float and nothing else. The problem with those large ships is when they start moving quickly then they fall apart. Noah's Ark wasnt intended to move quickly across the water. The ship was just designed to float and nothing else.

So, no storms during the entire escapade? Have you ever been on the high seas?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilge_keel

My aircraft carrier had these and a flat bottom.

I think I'm seeing bilge keels in the ark photos.

I wish that banana bender would go back to Queensland and take his stupid boat with him. I hate the fact that this clown chose my state to build his silly stuff in.

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> I wish that banana bender would go back to
> Queensland and take his stupid boat with him. I
> hate the fact that this clown chose my state to
> build his silly stuff in.



Ha! You are self-admitted, Kentucky's rationalist 01. Meaning that you recognize that less than 100 truly rational people live in Kentucky! Else you would have used more zeros! Under your self explained system, there are a max of 99 rationalist in your beloved state.

At least that's one silly person's explanation...

Actually, I was pleasantly surprised by Kentucky. Two of my workmates are admitted atheists, and the third is a lapsed Baptist who has no problems with admitting to past fornication and current porn appreciation. Kentucky is not Alabama.

In case no one got this:


The keel is basically a flat blade sticking down into the water from a sailboat's bottom. It has two functions: it prevents the boat from being blown sideways by the wind, and it holds the ballast that keeps the boat right-side up.


And also, no one can be Keel hauled on that boat either... what was Noah thinking?

.... I know someone who's going to get keelhauled...

I've done a bit of sailing and worked with boat designers. The keel would have to be enormous for this. The "boat" is five stories high, which means the Ark would have to sit in a cradle for the keel, which could make the Ark be another five stories up. Then you have to get ALL the animals on board -- then there's the problem of inbreeding with just two animals -- how do you get polar bears to the Arctic and penguins to the Antarctic?

Can we all just agree Ken Ham is more fucked up then the original story? At least back then people didn't know any better. Ham is being willfully ignorant.

And real wooden vessels approaching the Ark's size constantly leaked:


http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/could-noahs-ark-float-theory-yes-180950385/

https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4279

And real wooden vessels approaching the Ark's size constantly leaked:


http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/could-noahs-ark-float-theory-yes-180950385/

https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4279

Humans started to farm right before the end of the last Ice Age. Large pluvial lakes (Lake Bonneville) and also the Black Sea collapsed and released massive amounts of water in great floods. The former hunter-gatherers turned farmers fled and took their knowledge of agriculture (and the story) with them.


Like Pandora's Box, it's just a myth for kids.



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I do a stand up routine about the Creation Museum but have not written or performed lately. I guess I should thank Ken Hamm for giving me more material.