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Posted by: bigboy ( )
Date: August 09, 2016 04:50AM

Gruesome. He bled out on the altar. According to news reports.
That atrocicty was commited by religious zealots. Like the burning alive of an Pilot.

God must be sick to allow that to happen.

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Posted by: Atari ( )
Date: August 09, 2016 05:35AM

Link?

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Posted by: Link? ( )
Date: August 09, 2016 07:25AM

Link? Where have you been to miss that in the news?

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: August 09, 2016 07:44AM

It wasn't a religious zealot who murdered the priest.

It was cold blooded murder by a crazed 18-year old, who is mentally unsound using religion as his excuse.

He claims falsely he's with ISIS. He's also purportedly insane.

Charles Manson was insane too.

So he targets a priest who was elderly and in a vulnerable location to be murdered. While he was praying.

Yeah, what a coward to murder in cold blood an elderly man while he was praying for world peace.

Jihadists aren't religious, they are foot soldiers working for political machines who want to take over the world.

They're cold blooded murderers. This guy wasn't even a jihadist. He is just bat sh*t crazy.

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Posted by: mk ( )
Date: August 09, 2016 11:25AM


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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: August 09, 2016 12:17PM

From Europe, the kid was demented from an early age ... he was a whacko nut job using religion as a ruse to commit murder.

"Le Monde published sections of Kermiche’s legal file showing that since the age of six he had shown signs of “psychological troubles” for which he was regularly hospitalised. Court documents show he told the judge he “regretted his attempts to leave for Syria”....

The NouvelObs reported that after his attempts to reach Syria, the local mosque asked him to stay away from prayers; a request he apparently ignored.

A local man told the magazine: “Adel, he didn’t have much in his head, he wasn’t very smart and he’d never succeeded at anything.” Another resident told Le Parisien: “Everyone knows that this kid was a ticking time bomb. He was too strange.”

A neighbour told Le Figaro that Kermiche showed visible signs of mental disturbance. “He was crazy, he was talking to himself.”

Le Parisien reported that Kermiche had recently made a widespread appeal for money, and treated those who refused – the majority – as unbelievers or infidels.

A man given the pseudonym Christian by Le Parisien said he tried to help Kermiche after he was freed from prison in March this year. He said they were very close, though it was true that Kermiche “only spoke about religion”.

“His sister, his parents, me – we did everything to try and get him out. I tried to talk to him. I told him to stop and that if he needed anyone to confide in outside of his family, I was there. And he answered, ‘Yes, OK, you are right’. But it was like he was inside a bubble.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/27/teenager-who-murdered-french-priest-was-like-a-ticking-time-bomb

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Posted by: Cheryl ( )
Date: August 10, 2016 11:40AM


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Posted by: slskipper ( )
Date: August 09, 2016 09:07AM

But The Spirit told him to do that. Never in his life had he done something like that, but he felt he had to do what God told him.

Now, where have I heard that before?

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Posted by: ificouldhietokolob ( )
Date: August 09, 2016 10:40AM

How many times does it take some (admittedly) insane idiot killing people while yelling some version of "god is great!" before some people can admit that religion is part of the problem?
That religious belief, no matter what religion, encourages belief in gods telling you what to do, encourages complete devotion to a cause without question, encourages submission to the supposed will of a supposed "higher power," and encourages acts which most people wouldn't ordinarily do, if it's in the service of a god?

Yes, religion isn't the only "ideology" that encourages those things. But it IS one of the "ideologies" that does.

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Posted by: mk ( )
Date: August 09, 2016 11:27AM


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Posted by: ificouldhietokolob ( )
Date: August 09, 2016 11:35AM

mk Wrote:
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"Klingensmith, James Haslem, Daniel McFarland and John M. Higbee dug a grave in the field near Cedar City, and that night, about 12 o'clock, went to Anderson's house and ordered him to make ready to obey Council. Anderson got up... and without a word of remonstrance accompanied those that he believed were carrying out the will of the "Almighty God." They went to the place where the grave was prepared; Anderson knelt upon the side of the grave and prayed. Klingensmith and his company then cut Anderson's throat from ear to ear and held him so that his blood ran into the grave."

( http://exmormon.org/d6/drupal/bloodatn )

"In theory heresy was the denial of some essential Christian doctrine, publicly and obstinately . In practice any deviation from the currently orthodox line could be judged heretical. By the fifth century there were over a hundred active statutes in the Empire concerning heresy. From St Augustine onward for well over a thousand years virtually all Christian theologians agreed that heretics should be persecuted, and most agreed that they should be killed. Heresy was explicitly identified as as akin to leprosy. It was a disease that threatened to destroy a healthy body of believers if they strayed from the Church's view of religious orthodoxy, just as leprosy was a disease that threatened the healthy bodies of individuals if they strayed from the Church's view of sexual orthodoxy.. Diseases like this had to be eradicated at all costs. St Thomas Aquinas thought it virtuous to burn heretics, and favoured the option of burning them alive. From around the turn of the millennium executing heretics became ever more common, and the grounds for doing so ever more unlikely. A group of Christians at Goslar in Germany who declined to kill chickens were executed for heresy in 1051.

A long series of popes supported the extirpation of those who disagreed with the current papal line. Arnold of Brescia, a pupil of Abelard, shared his master's critical views of the Church, and also embraced the republican ideals of ancient Rome. He held that papal authority was a usurpation, and that the wealth and power of the Church was unchristian. He led a movement to re-establish a Roman republic and return the clergy to apostolic poverty. He was hanged and then burned as a heretic in 1155 by the pope, Adrian IV."

( http://www.heretication.info/_heretics.html )

"On May 31, 2009, George Tiller, a physician from Wichita, Kansas, who was nationally known for being one of the few doctors in the United States to perform late-term abortions, was murdered by Scott Roeder. Tiller was killed during a Sunday morning service at his church, Reformation Lutheran Church, where he was serving as an usher.

Roeder's former roommate of two years, Eddie Ebecher, who had met Roeder through the Freemen movement in the 1990s, told a reporter after Tiller's murder that he and Roeder had considered themselves members of the Army of God.

Randall Terry, the founder of Operation Rescue, said:
“George Tiller was a mass-murderer. We grieve for him that he did not have time to properly prepare his soul to face God. I am more concerned that the Obama Administration will use Tiller's killing to intimidate pro-lifers into surrendering our most effective rhetoric and actions. Abortion is still murder. And we still must call abortion by its proper name; murder. Those men and women who slaughter the unborn are murderers according to the Law of God.""

( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_George_Tiller )



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/09/2016 11:49AM by ificouldhietokolob.

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Posted by: Mk ( )
Date: August 09, 2016 01:06PM

The infidel. The Mormons that murdered weren't real Christians. Those that follow the Koran. Are Muslim.

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Posted by: ificouldhietokolob ( )
Date: August 09, 2016 08:22PM

Mk Wrote:
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> The infidel. The Mormons that murdered weren't
> real Christians. Those that follow the Koran.
> Are Muslim.

Oh, sure, the "No True Scotsman" fallacy is always good to trot out now and then.

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Posted by: Exmoron ( )
Date: August 09, 2016 12:28PM

What in Medieval times? What is so ironic about the so called "religion" in question is that their is a want for stone age type livin' all the while they carry their cell phones around text'in. Go figure.

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Posted by: rubi123 ( )
Date: August 09, 2016 11:07AM

bigboy Wrote:
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> God must be sick to allow that to happen.


God does not control the actions of individuals. He gives us free will. People will do with their free will what they want to. That's why so many evil things (like this) occur. God isn't going to just step in and take someone's free will away.

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Posted by: McKay Cahtso ( )
Date: August 09, 2016 11:16AM

Because God's a dick?

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Posted by: ificouldhietokolob ( )
Date: August 09, 2016 11:24AM

rubi123 Wrote:
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> bigboy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> God does not control the actions of individuals.
> He gives us free will. People will do with their
> free will what they want to. That's why so many
> evil things (like this) occur. God isn't going to
> just step in and take someone's free will away.

"...those actions of free beings which bring about evil very often diminish the freedom of those who suffer the evil; for example the murder of a young child may prevent the child from ever exercising their free will. In such a case the freedom of an innocent child is pitted against the freedom of the evil-doer, it is not clear why God would remain unresponsive and passive."
( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_evil )

Actually it *is* clear -- no reason to pretend this claimed "god" thing exists.

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Posted by: rubi123 ( )
Date: August 09, 2016 11:31AM

Nothing is fair or just in this life. Let's hope things improve in the next.

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Posted by: ificouldhietokolob ( )
Date: August 09, 2016 11:36AM

rubi123 Wrote:
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> Nothing is fair or just in this life. Let's hope
> things improve in the next.

Screw that. Let's work to make this life better.

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Posted by: rubi123 ( )
Date: August 09, 2016 11:40AM

Yes, let's try to improve things. But feels a little like going against the tide.

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Posted by: ificouldhietokolob ( )
Date: August 09, 2016 08:30PM

rubi123 Wrote:
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> Yes, let's try to improve things. But feels a
> little like going against the tide.

We humans used to be slaves to the tides. We couldn't get out of harbor when it was coming in, we couldn't get into harbor when it was going out.

We figured out ways to go against the tide. Now, other than the depth of some ports, the tides are irrelevant. We go in and out of harbor as we please.

There's a lesson there :)

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Posted by: Babyloncansuckit ( )
Date: August 09, 2016 11:43AM

Did the priest have brass plates?

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Posted by: bordergirl ( )
Date: August 09, 2016 12:10PM

Voices and visions--schizophrenia. The spirit---?

Someone who is severely mentally ill is vulnerable to all kinds of persuasion, especially religious, because all of it is tied to those voices and visions.

Others who do evil in the name of religion are often guided by a "religious" movement dedicated to cultural, economic and political control.

ISIL is such a movement. There are others. If they only wanted to control the spiritual life of others, they would not be doing what they are doing.

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Posted by: Exmoron ( )
Date: August 09, 2016 12:33PM

Pfft...most ISIS folks will tell you they hear voices and see visions. So will most Mormons.

Is everyone forgetting there was 2 attackers....so...did they both have schizophrenia?

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Posted by: Mo larkey ( )
Date: August 10, 2016 12:38PM

Throat slashing a mother and baby because our Mormon god told us to do it for her refusing polygamy!!

DC 132 it is scripture

from 1984
They were senseless murders — fueled by religious fanaticism, delusions of grandeur, and an upbringing warped by violence. There have been only a handful of capital murder cases in Utah County since.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/595079489/1984-Lafferty-case-still-haunts.html?pg=all

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Posted by: presleynfactsrock ( )
Date: August 10, 2016 10:12PM

Braggart Briggy, lest we forget, was big on the blood atonement slashings. And, the Mountain Meadows Massacre that he set the stage for and, most likely, rang the bell for, stands as a horrific dead that can be done when one is sure they speak to Gawd and for Gawd.

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Posted by: michaelc1945 ( )
Date: August 10, 2016 11:12PM

God had nothing to do with the murder of the Catholic priest. It was the work of "the religion of peace."

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