Probaly...plus it would kill their bottom line for any of the 15 to mutiny.

RB

When you've got a good scam going -- and are devoid of integrity -- you might as well keep going. They have lots of posterity they need to set up financially.

As Bill Mayer says: "Selling an invisible product -- it doesn't get better than that!"

I defected, and I suffered a heavy financial loss & loss of association with family & "friends".



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There are no beans.

Yeah, methinks the 15 made their choice years ago to ignore the parts of Moism that bothered their hearts, and now their hearts fail to get bothered at all.

Instead, the 15 placed plush security, fancy cars, lovely big homes, family, fans and posterity adorement, and cash at their fingertips to be their religion of choice.

I would be shocked if any of them could ever break free from the shackles that now bind them.

No matter who defected... Wait! See, that's the word that would be used by mormons! Defect (noun) an error... Thus 'defector' is someone in error. So it wouldn't matter to the rest of the church, the TBMs, who 'defected'; they would be seen to be in error.

And of course, "...in the last days even the very elect shall be deceived..."

The competition to get to the top is intense. Nobody gets there unless they're "the type". They're all thick as thieves.

From last week:

http://exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,1862501

Thanks!

Bean counters don't spill.

Is it okay to link to Grant Palmer, who spoke on this subject?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3006014/posts

So someone like Mitt Romney, who is already wealthy and has experienced life, isn't going to be on the council of the twelve.

That means the Brethren are just figureheads and the "prophet" is just the figurehead in chief -- so the real power lies with the unseen bureaucrats who run things behind the scenes where the money is.

Hey, great point! If the church is offering a million a year and you already have 200 million in the bank...?

William Law spilled the beans long ago.

Today's bean counters are too busy counting beans to worry about them being spilled.

Either:

1. They know it's a fraud and they're willing to go along with it for the perks (which makes them evil)

2. They're willing to suppress their doubts just like the many who do already

3. They think they're doing it for 'a greater good'

4. They have no integrity (which makes them spineless)


Keep in mind that there has been much apostasy by church leaders since the beginning, just very little in recent memory.

There have been doubters all along - just look at BH Roberts.

What about the Tanners?

"What about the Tanners?"

I think the OP is referring more to former church leaders and other big-wigs. Of course there have been hundreds of thousands of rank-and-file members to leave the church, including most of us who post here. The Tanners were a young, newly-married couple when they left in the early '60s. They didn't really achieve notoriety until after they had left and started printing old historical material.

Remember that the "defectors" (smart ones who left with some integrity in tact) decades ago -- or a 150-plus years ago -- probably weren't making the big bucks the GA's do today. The church wasn't wealthy until the 1950's/60's.

So a Q12 member today has much more to lose.

I've come to believe that the 15 oldies completely know it's a fraud

The main reason for not defecting is that they are completely devoid of empathy. Let me repeat that, they are devoid of empathy.

They have no heart, no integrity, act like the chief priests, scribes, and Pharisees of the NT.

They care about their own fame, money, power, being admired.... And in the past you can add women, and lots of them of all ages regardless of marital status, to be used for sex, not courtship and love and raising a family

I've met people like that, and they were also Mormon.

I imagine that the main reason the bigwigs are *chosen* is that they are corporate men, and will never admit that smoking is bad for you....ummmmm....that TSCC is a load of crap.

And how many people on RFM have related that their life was relegated to living hell when they found the real world truth about TSCC?