I created a site to show where Ex Mormon RMs served their missions. The concept is similar to r/exrm, but I thought it would be interesting to show the data in a more visual way. Feel free to add yourself if you served a mission.

https://exrmmap.com/

Added my info

How interactive is it?

I added my info, along with a comment... How can I read others' information and comments?

I wondered that as well.

I'll be adding more features in the near future. I just wanted to get something out there, so I could gauge interest. Right now I'm fixing bugs, but I'll be adding things to view peoples comments, search for missions and filter the map by dates served in the near future.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/04/2016 09:51PM by satome3987.

I'm added

I tried to enter the info but the map would not take it.

Did you see any errors on the screen when you tried to post? If I can recreate the issue I'll see if I can fix it. I've only had one other person mention and issue with trying to add to Germany. I haven't been able to recreate it, but maybe you're having the same issue.

Added. Sad there was no one from San Diego until I added mine.

Yay, at least one more exmo from my mission.

Your map is a great idea. Probably, no one has generated this kind of data until now. I was interested enough to put down my phone (where I usually do everything), boot my laptop, and use it to enter my information. Apparently, Android 4.4.2 or the main Android web browser doesn't work. Firefox on Fedora 24 (Linux) works fine. Native Android internet - see frozen North America map, no navigation, see no icons, see no stats, enter no info. Chrome on Android - navigate map and see icons but not see stats nor enter information. Firefox on Android - navigate map and see icons and see stats and apparently enter info. But I didn't actually enter info since it was already added.

I think there is a lot of power in this kind of information. No one like a former fulltime representative of the church can fully understand just how much of a cult the church is, and spread that information to others.



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 09/04/2016 10:51PM by azsteve.

Thanks, that was my thought exactly.

I'd like to see if I can fix the issue you had with the site. What version of Android are you running? Did you see any errors or just a white screen?

Android 4.4.2. You can see the update of my message above for more information. Let me know if you want more info from linux. I could probably help over a period of days. But not a lot all at once. I probably have ten different browsers installed on the laptop, and Windows 10 in a virtual box there.

If you feel the ambition enough - too much work for me - I always thought that a kind of better business bureau for churches would be a great idea too. The morg would probably never respond to any complaints or resolve issues filed there. But other churches might, and the contrast might be shocking. Being able to read the types of complaints filed there would be good too. Maybe someone could find a way to make money hosting something like that too.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 09/04/2016 11:07PM by azsteve.

Thanks! I really appreciate that. If you're able to get some console logs that would be amazing. Looks like below android 4.4.4 has some issues with certain javascript functions or something. Error logs would help me point in the right direction though.

With as many browsers as you say you have I'd guess you have some experience with web development.

I tried entering my info, but it requires a year that you left the church. I'm still in physically but out mentally. Waiting for spouse to be on board before I leave.

Technically I haven't officially resigned either. I just couldn't think of a way to track a transition out of the church since it can span a long period of time. Just put the the time that matches your leaving mentally I guess.

Maybe two dates would be good. 1.) Date your shelf broke 2.) Date you officially resigned.

I mentally left about 15 years ago when my parents were called on a mission to the church history dept. They spent their time redacting things from church history before the church made some of its history public. That's when I started wondering what the church was trying to cover up. I'll go in and use that date on the mission map.

I would love to hear more about this! Were they using a black marker to ink over data or were they tearing out pages or shit-canning documents? Who were reporting to?

I've heard there are a lot of personal diaries they church 'urged' the the kids and grandkids of the authors to 'donate' to the church and that Jesus will come before the church lets them be read.

My parents didn't say much about the details. They were told not to. But the church made copies and my parents were working from the copies. They had a check list of what to look for. They would draw a line through the part that they felt should be redacted. Then it would go to some higher level guy who would make the final decision. I was true TBM up to that point. That's when I started looking around on the internet and found that most of the things the church called "anti-Mormon" were things that actually happened in church history, but the church wanted to keep hidden. Because as we know from Packer, not all truth is useful.

Most of what the church has been forced to acknowledge and publish today they called lies and distortions when I was young. This is especially true of Brodie's "No Man Knows My History". Time has, beyond question, proven her correct and the church officials liars.

I have found through careful study over that years that so-called "anti-Mormon" isn't that at all. It is rather "pro-truth".

I fully became inactive in 1970, but did not officially resign until the procedure allowing it became effective in the early 1990's. Before that, excommunication was the only way to legally terminate membership.

Had resignation been an option when I left, I would have done so. Therefore, I always consider 1970 to be the year my membership ended and entered that year on the ExMormon RM map info.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/05/2016 11:46AM by Templar.

Added my information. I was the first for the Columbus, Ohio Mission too.

Would love to know who else has exited the cult from my mission - El Savador / Guatemala

What years were you there? I started in the El Salvador San Salvador mission and was transferred to the Guatemala Guatemala City mission when the church pulled the gringo missionaries out of El Salvador in 1979.

Was there 67-69. Would be interested in hearing your story.

My oldest brother was there around that time frame. Unfortunately he passed away about a decade ago as a TBM.

He spent most of his time in Huehuetenango and Quetzaltenango.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/06/2016 05:15PM by Richard the Bad.

What about 60s missions that don't exist now?
I couldn't add mine (Great Lakes Mission, 67-69)

It was MI + IN



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/05/2016 02:30AM by GNPE.

When I was a mishie, there were only four missions in Mexico. My letter from DOM said I was called to the Mexican mission. But all I could get the site to accept was "Mexico." So there's no way to know if anyone else from that specific mission is also out...

Added. First from my mission. Hopefully there will be others.

First in for Bolivia!

I was there 81-82. How about you?

Added my info. Perhaps the information can be summarized once enough individuals have posted. It will be interesting to know the average time from end of ones mission to fully leaving the church. For me, it was eight years.

I'm added. Apparently, the first from France-Paris mission. :)

I'm added - France-Paris as well - 1973-75 for me.

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> I'm added - France-Paris as well - 1973-75 for me.
'79-80 for me. Was in Paris (Boulogne-Billancourt), Caen, Poitiers, and Versailles. Maybe we know some of the same members (like the Babins in Versailles?).

A similar map of exmo missionaries' home wards would also be interesting. Just throwing an idea out there...

Yeah, I wanted to do that at first, but there were complaints about asking about where someone was from on a form that is supposed to be anonymous. I could add the from field back though and just not make it required.

It would also be interesting to have a map of closed chapels. But I am grateful for what you have already done.

I'm added!

Haha I love it!

Topping

Added.

Added my mission: Baton Rouge LA.

Added my info.

Japan Nagoya, 1976-1978.

I'm added, and show as one of 3 from Brasil São Paulo. I was there 1968-1970, At that time, there was only 3 missions, now there's dozens.

I put 1995 as the year I left, but I was really a non-believe for longer than that. 1995 was the year my wife and were going out separate ways and before that, I was still going to church as a finance clerk. It was the only church activity I was doing.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/06/2016 03:19PM by memikeyounot.

We may have crossed paths in 1968.

I'd be interested in off-board contact if you'd like. I still have some good memories of people I knew and things I saw, not so much doing baptisms, mostly for young women who wanted a path to the US by marrying an RM.

My email is wmadams801@gmail.com. Please feel free to contact me if you're interested.

I think this map is great!! Wonderful idea, keep it up!

I only wish there was a way to find information about and contact the other person serving in the same mission i did! (Hung@ry Bud@pest Mission)

It might be nice to be able to edit your own info (and be prevented from editing someone else's, of course)...

Yeah I agree. The problem with that at this point is all the people that have already added themselves would have to claim theirs somehow. I guess once I implement something like that I could just allow people to claim by sending an email to me or something though.

I originally thought that this would be more like a survey site, to just show the numbers, but I think it could also be a way for people to reconnect with others from the same mission who have left the church.

For now, the next priority is to make it so that the information is at least viewable by others, but I appreciate the feedback. I'll add it to my list of features to add.

Add a simple comments section and I think it would really take off...

Hey, can we post your link elsewhere?

Can you give us an idea of when we can start viewing what others post?

I'd love it if you posted it wherever you find other exmos. I'd like to get it in front of as many people as possible. I'm still working out the bugs, but I'll probably be finished adding that sometime this week. I'll update this thread when It's done.

Okay, I did it, and I may have ever so slightly exaggerated how nicely you accepted my suggestion....


Oopsie: here's the link: http://www.postmormon.org/exp_e/index.php/discussions/viewthread/42416/#624202



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/07/2016 06:18PM by elderolddog.

Thanks, that's a great idea!