Hi Folks

I was born in 1960. Boyd KKK Packer was at the apex of his craziness in the 1970's when I was in my teens. And I believed every word he said. I had virtually no interest in worldly music.

Before my mission, I studied the so-called gospel for hours each day, along with prayer.

Meanwhile, Pink Floyd's brilliant "Dark Side of the Moon" appeared on the planet and then passed me by.

At the age of 50, I bought the album. And I;ve now listed to it over the last few months many hundreds of times. I was absolutely addicted to it. Every time I got in the car, on it went.

Somehow, my fam,ily understood, and nobody really complained. I introduced my 14 year-old son to "Dark Side of the Moon" and also to "The Wall" and he also thinks they are magic. He loves the detail.

But, I feel I've been robbed of many years of appreciation for gifted musicians and what they have created.

The mind-numbing s* such as "Praise to the Man", "If You could Hie to Kolob|, |Oh, My Father", and all the other rubbish that we were forced to sing, is truly awful.

Boyd the B* robbed me.

Sadly, I'ev discovered that three or the orginal members of The Floyd have passed away. I wish I could turn the clock back, and enjoy listening to each member of the Band, and following their stories.

As a fourth generation member, having served an honourable so-called mission, having married a returned missionary in the so-called temple, and raising and indoctrinating a large brood of kids in the Cult, I resigned in 2006, with 1.5 years to go on my recommend.

Five years later, it still bothers me that the so-called church lied to me and stole my devotion. And a great chunk of my time and life.

Money. The odd thing is that this is what the Cult is all about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHhzi8PvDYw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NKDSDbipGU

Comfortably Numb. With it's brain-washing and psychological toolkit. the goal of the Cult is to numb you into a dither and gain control over you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQWszrZHBPI&feature=fvsr

The Wall. It's all about blatant control and fear. And abuse of children and the wrecked adults that develop from them.

Kind regards

Grey

Friends

Sorry, I forgot to place the following link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR5ApYxkU-U

Also, two of my fingers are limited at the moment, so I'm sorry for the typos. I'll have to spell check in future, instead of typing and then posting.

Cheers

Grey

Have you listened to Dark side of the moon with some great headphones in the dark?

Then you can relive what those of us who listened to it back in the day experienced. Floyd is classic and if it touches you it always will do so.

I enjoy it now at middle age more I think. Maybe life has put more meaning to the words.

Diehard Pink Floyd fan here. I agree with everything you said. DSOM is their absolute masterpiece. I enjoy the Wall, but found some of it too angry in tone. I also recommend the albums "Wish you were here" and "Animals".

There are plenty of cover bands around that do Pink floyd. Here in the SoCal area, Which One's Pink does an excellent job.

Tangerine Dream and Carbon Based Lifeforms kind of took off where Pink Floyd started. If you like the Floyd, you should also look up some of their stuff.

It's still my favorite album by them.

there was not a lot of great music during the corporate era, so the few great albums means most were killed in overplay.

I have personally killed a number of albums, including DSOM.

However, WYWH is still in my play list.

something you might not know, Grey, is that WYWH is about Sid after they replaced him with Gilmore. There is a story you can look up about Sid dropping by the studio while they were recording WYWH. awkward.

but chin up, this means there are many great things in store for you. And if you know nuthin' bout the Velvet Underground, that is the place to start.

That sucks. I like Floyd very much myself, but am married to a total devotee.

On a more positive note, I believe only Sid Barrett and Richard Wright have died. Roger Waters, David Gilmore and Dave Mason are still with us.

And have you seen The Wall yet?

http://www.amazon.com/Pink-Floyd-Wall-Anniversary-Deluxe/dp/B0006ZE7G2/ref=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1306204343&sr=1-1

DH and a bunch of our guy friends went to Boise awhile back to see Roger Waters in concert. He's still touring.

In the meantime, careful with that axe, Eugene! (you'll wanna Google that.)

Funny you should bring up "Dark Side of the Moon."

Back in the 70's when I was knocking doors for the corp, one of our regular P-day activities was to go to a nearby stereo store and listen to DSOTM in the demo room on their Bose 901's.

Every once in a while I'd be assigned to an area where the circumstances allowed me to live a bit.

Grey I hate to tell you that if you followed Boyd KKK's advice you missed a lot more great bands than just Pink Floyd. I'd attempt a list but I'm afraid it'd just make me cry. So many great groups where does one start?

Maybe you could Google classic rock and see what you've missed. Damned cult!

A. Here's the best, most beautiful thing about music. It's recorded. In many different forms. The music is not lost. You were not robbed of it because you still managed to stumble upon it later in your life. You still get to experience the joys and wonders of it and it still touches you in whatever ways it touches you. So what have you lost? What was robbed of you? Nothing you haven't already taken back.

B. If you love the Pink Floyd version, you might be interested in The Flaming Lips. About two years ago, that band covered the entire album. I've always loved DSoTM, and the Lips made it their own, updated it, and it's STILL FREAKING AWESOME. Perfect for pole dancing, as a matter of fact! ;>)

The wall, absolutely, incredible. Nothing like it since either. My wife uses Pandora to listen to music, it is amazing. Can't say enough.

You put in one song and it plays that, and then chooses more for you and they will often be exactly your mood and taste, but stuff you haven't heard before! Amazes me

Pink Floyd is my all-time favorite group. I didn't at all appreciate them as a teenager. Do you believe my son actually "introduced" me to them? I knew who they were, and I liked them, but I did not come CLOSE to appreciating them fully. My son had me read the actual words and listen closely to the songs, and my eyes opened to how truly brilliant the group is. Grey, I was in the church for only 9 years, but in that time I, also missed out on so much. I have relationships to mend (and forge), movies to watch, books to read, music to listen to. I feel so silly for letting the cult take hold of me and tell me what I could or couldn't do. What a mindless drone I had become!



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Oh, love love love Floyd. "Learning to Fly" is one my faves too.

Roger Waters' 1992 solo album had this song that always hit me kinda hard:
WHAT GOD WANTS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fm4hkCA3DIM

"What God wants... God gets, God help us all..."
Freakin' brilliant.

But if you have never heard it (and it was given the blessing of Pink Floyd), you might want to listen to the Bluegrass version of "The Wall", titled "Rebuild The Wall":

http://www.lutherwright.com/thewall.php

No, it's not anywhere as good as the original, but it is amazing that it works. But you need a sense of humor:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA6pBXjvxZM

Back when "The Wall" album was new, the guy in the next office used to play it over and over -- softly, but his tape player was just on the other side of the thin wall. It was months before I realized they were NOT singing, "A-A-A-A-Africa, I'm coming home." (Cue David Gilmore solo)

Dark Side of the Moon was heavily influenced by band member Syd Barrett. According to Wikipedia:

"MENTAL STATE: There has been much speculation concerning Barrett's psychological well-being. Many believe he suffered from schizophrenia. A diagnosis of bipolar disorder has also been considered. Some even suggested (though without any known certainty) that Barrett might have had Asperger's Syndrome, a mild form of autism.

Barrett's use of psychedelic drugs, especially LSD, during the 1960s is well documented. In an article published in 2006, in response to notions that Barrett's problems were the result of such, Gilmour was quoted as saying: "In my opinion, his nervous breakdown would have happened anyway. It was a deep-rooted thing. But I'll say the psychedelic experience might well have acted as a catalyst. Still, I just don't think he could deal with the vision of success and all the things that went with it."

Many stories of Barrett's erratic behaviour off stage as well as on are also well-documented. In Saucerful of Secrets: The Pink Floyd Odyssey, author Nicholas Schaffner interviewed a number of people who knew Barrett before and during his Pink Floyd days. These included friends Peter and Susan Wynne-Wilson, artist Duggie Fields (with whom Barrett shared a flat during the late 1960s), June Bolan and Storm Thorgerson, among others.

"For June Bolan, the alarm bells began to sound only when Syd kept his girlfriend under lock and key for three days, occasionally shoving a ration of biscuits under the door." A claim of cruelty against Barrett committed by the groupies and hangers-on who frequented his apartment during this period was described by writer and critic Jonathan Meades. "I went [to Barrett's flat] to see Harry and there was this terrible noise. It sounded like heating pipes shaking. I said, 'What's up?' and he sort of giggled and said, 'That's Syd having a bad trip. We put him in the linen cupboard.'" Storm Thorgerson responded to this claim by stating "I do not remember locking Syd up in a cupboard. It sounds to me like pure fantasy, like Jonathan Meades was on dope himself."

In the book Crazy Diamond: Syd Barrett and the Dawn of Pink Floyd, authors Mike Watkinson and Pete Anderson included quotes from a story told to them by Thorgerson that underscored how volatile Barrett could be. "On one occasion, I had to pull him off Lindsay (Barrett's girlfriend at the time) because he was beating her over the head with a mandolin."

According to Gilmour in an interview with Nick Kent, the other members of Pink Floyd approached psychiatrist R. D. Laing with the 'Barrett problem'. After hearing a tape of a Barrett conversation, Laing declared him "incurable".

After Barrett died, his sister, Rosemary Breen, spoke to biographer Tim Willis for The Sunday Times. She insisted that Barrett neither suffered from mental illness nor received treatment for it at any time since they resumed regular contact in the 1980s. She allowed that he did spend some time in a private "home for lost souls" — Greenwoods in Essex—but claimed there was no formal therapy programme there. Some years later, Barrett apparently agreed to sessions with a psychiatrist at Fulbourn psychiatric hospital in Cambridge, but Breen claimed that neither medication nor therapy was considered appropriate in her brother's case."

There really is a fine line between genius and insanity.

One thing I do admire about the band is, after Syd "left" the band, they continued to pay his royalty monies to his mother.

Shine on you crazy diamond....

...all the acts I could have seen LIVE if I hadn't been a good Mormon.

One stands out. We were milling around after Sunday school (back in the days before the 3-hour block) waiting for the adults, when the slightly older teen children of a soon-to-be-Seventy mentioned they were going to see Jimi Hendrix that evening instead of going to Sacrament meeting. Skipping church? To see Hendrix? With their parent's permission? I was stunned. And envious. And I admired them for even imagining such a thing was possible.

My mom was a kolobian but my dad was a hippie so I grew up on Pink Floyd, particularly the 'delicate sound of thunder' album.

It's the earliest memory I have of music and comfortably numb is still one of my all-time top 5 songs.

I always pictured 'The Wall' (and much of Pink Floyd) as reflecting a kid raised in post-war England, with growing monolithic socialism all around, and individualism being stifled. But now that you mention hearing it in a former TBM frame of mind...

To paraphrase:
"How can you have any meat if you don't drink the milk!!!"

After I married my husband. He's 32 and has listened to them since he was a teen.

Both bands I mentioned have amazing lyrics and even more amazing instrumental ability. I have gotten more out of listening to them then I ever got in lessons at church.

How sad is that?

I liked Pink Floyd when I was a teen, but really didn't develop the appreciation like I have now. Same thing with Rush and a few other classic rock bands.

Hi Folks,

So glad I grew up Catholic and never had to miss out on great music. Insidently, don't short change the Final Cut, Roger Water's true masterpiece. All about the dangers of war, and very poignant given todays world climate. You can see many parallels in today's society that Waters observes in his tribute to his father in "the Fletcher Memorial Home." Truly an overlooked classic.

I never saw a performance of the concert based on "The Wall" album but I remember hearing about it at the time.

I did see most of the other major bands active during that time period.

I'm sorry that you lost that opportunity. Kinda makes you want to give BKKKP an earful, doesn't it?

Now, I can play it loud!

I'm glad this thread was resurrected! I just listened to Flaming Lips' remake of DSOM, and it is absolutely awesome! THx dogzilla!