Happened to see the Philadelphia Temple recently... could not be more out of place, surrounded by downtown high rises etc.
How exactly is LDS Corp NOT a real estate investment corporation???

Does anyone have a link with a picture?

Cheryl Wrote:
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> Does anyone have a link with a picture?


https://philly.curbed.com/2016/6/21/11989510/mormon-temple-reservations

Yep, that's it.
It occurred to me that it is a pathetic attempt to forcefully insert (not a Joe Smith joke) themselves into the lexicon of important American history, given what Philadelphia is and represents.

Like The Crimson Permanent Assurance

What gave you the impression that it wasn't?

Oh, you thought it was like an actual church, right? Yeah. And Christ-centered too. No, that's the shell.



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Oh, I know it is. The brazenness of the location is what's shocking. Prime downtown real estate. Hard to argue austerity on that one.

It can't be upstaged by the church across the street, right?

Google Maps/street view.

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9588639,-75.16868,3a,90y,36.04h,102.72t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJn-hRcEr3kzA-UFQQjJlwg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

The church mentioned by Krokus is the Cathedral Basilica of St. Peter and Paul (Catholic).
http://cathedralphila.org/about/about-the-cathedral/

It definitely is an eyesore designed to make the Morg look more important than it is. William Penn's Boner.

Phily is one of my favorite cities to visit because of all the history there. The Mormon Temple ruins the feel in downtown Philadelphia. One of the coolest places to visit is the masonic temple, and you don't need a card to get in, and you can tour it without putting on cult-clothes.

http://www.visitphilly.com/history/philadelphia/masonic-temple/

Built in 1873 it is much more impressive than any Mormon temple that I have been in.

We had an exmo meetup there long, long ago.

I hate the Philly temple - pisses me off. This is my home town, and they just...UGH.

Logan Square will never be the same. On my lunchbreak, I would take off my shoes, sit on the fountain rim, and swing my legs in the water. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swann_Memorial_Fountain

Before TSCC bought this piece of land, they bought a parking lot on Broad St. about two blocks north of the Masonic Temple. THAT was fitting. Unfortunately the power of discernment was on vacay, because the land they'd purchased was contaminated.

Anyway, whatever.

Beth Wrote:
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> Before TSCC bought this piece of land, they bought
> a parking lot on Broad St. about two blocks north
> of the Masonic Temple. THAT was fitting.

Rebungnified Freemasonry was mama to the Mormon Cult back there in Vermont and NY.

Most of the original 12 were on the Square.

It's thus fitting they should snuggle up again in Philly.

I would have loved to be at the exmo meeting in the masonic temple. What a cool experience that would be.

You are lucky Beth to live in such a historic place.

Yes, looking back, I think I was lucky to grow up there. I now live in the amazing and blazing PNW, and I am lucky to be here. From hoodrat to hiker. ;)

The church across from it is where Police and Fire funerals are held. It gets a pretty big crowd.

Luckily Center City is totally walkable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathedral_Basilica_of_Saints_Peter_and_Paul_(Philadelphia)

ETA: And bikeable! S'up, Elfling? <3



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Yes, it does look completely out of place. How did they ever get that past the city's review board? Oh, right, graft, corruption, bribes, cronyism.

Would you rather have it in some out-of-the-way residential neighborhood ("Memphis", Bismarck, "St. Paul", Spokane, etc.) or along a rural highway ("Raleigh") or on a frontage road alongside suburban interstate ("St. Louis")?

Downtown SLC also has skycrapers, and some of them obscure the SL Temple from various vantage points. Yet billions of TBMs attend that place weekly.

Don't want it at all. The trek to Surrender Dorothy is fine. ;-)

https://img.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_480w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2011/06/24/Local/Images/KELLYCOL26%20A_1308947400.jpg?uuid=yLVf2J6gEeCMAJKPmHKN9g

I wonder how much THAT temple cost, including the land. Placing it right in the center of mega-expensive downtown screams for attention ... look how rich we are! Look how magnificent we are!

The Church builds EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE propaganda. But it isn't for the Lord.

Never gave a report about my open house day tour. I'm afraid I stirred up the ant hill a bit. At first I thought I would just ask pertinent questions such as "Is this where you baptize the dead people?" "Where is the veil room?", and "How many wives can you fit around that sealing altar?" But I was afraid I would be escorted out by Temple goons. Still,when I got up that morning to get dressed, I spied my white chinos in the closet, and got an idea. So, white(ish) shirt with just the right amount of polyester, white socks and white shoes on, I joined the tour group in the chapel looking very pious and innocent. Hermana was obviously very confused, but didn't say anything. Some of the brethren started to gather in the hallway and talk, but I paid them no notice (as it should be). After reverently sitting through the introduction film, and as we were moving on to the Temple itself, one of the Penishood started walking alongside me, commenting on the warm weather and asked if I dressed like that in summer? I wanted to shake the creep, so I mumbled something about "wanting to be respectful". Needless to say, I got odd looks all through the tour from the various guides. Especially since I knew the lingo. Told my group how they were going to tear up all the nice carpet and flooring after the Temple was closed to us heathens. For those who are sorry that they didn't get a chance to see the place, you didn't miss much. Ethan Allen reproduction furniture up against polystyrene "plasterwork" to give it that Spirit of '76 look but just a cookie-cutter McTemple, clad in expensive Maine marble to give it the exact look of wet concrete. Overly sanitary looking Disney hotel. And they make the mishies clean it, dressed in white.

http://elderdylansmith.blogspot.com/2017/08/poutine-temple-and-amazing-week.html

OMG - this cover!* https://youtu.be/iYuldgIOelY

The original: https://youtu.be/u06DpcFXc4U


*I now have a better understanding of the panties on the stage thing. Not a total one, mind you.

Thanks for the chuckle Hervey.

Keep your panties on Beth.

Last night, we had a kick-off celebration for the 100th anniversary of the Benjamin Franklin Parkway.

http://www.parkway100.org

All the institutions along the Parkway were open late with free admission and exhibits. As I was driving home, I noticed the Moron Temple, which is only Parkway-adjacent, had a gaggle of missionaries out front (why do we only rate "Sweet Spirits"?). I guess they were expecting hoards of golden investigators to come to their also-ran open house.