Come on!! I have been away from church a year and i still get into psychological warfare with mormons and myself. Does this happen to anybody else? Do you have to pump yourselves up after a battle. Maybe its just the badass but its still a psychological war even if you physically leave for a while.

You have to overcome the programming. It's not easy. The Mormons are very adept at using family and peer pressure against your better interests. Ask yourself: Why am I the one who has to bend over backward to accommodate them? Why am I always wrong, and they're always right? Stay conscious of their game.

Gotcha i have to stay concious of what they are doing. Overcome the programming. Can the programming really last this long?

No, Badass, it can’t beat you. It only has power over those allowing it power in their lives. You’re not giving it, or its members, power over you. Period!

Adam, I say this in love—now that you know it’s not real, don’t give it power by getting frustrated. If you start to get angry, frustrated, or triggered, just say, fuck it! I’m in control and I don’t have time, energy, or desire to play the Mormon mindfuck today. Then, change your thinking!

Stay strong Badass! Don’t give in to the cult by feeding it energy. Hugs!

Is it really not real boner or is it just my strong hope that it isnt real. What the hell is real when your mind clears the fantasy totally? I do feel smarter than i used to be though. But that world of theirs is a monstrous clustermindfuck. Its a f#cking life sucking monster from hell that never gives up. Boner help me see the truth and the light again. Give me extra convictions on top of my own or something. They make me feel like their weirdness is real but the adult in me says that it isnt.

Oh Adam, I wish I could just tell you what is true, but I can’t. The truth about your own value has got to come from inside of you. But, I’m still going to cheer you on, cuss with you, and hope for your healing. Fucking-A!

And, for what it’s worth—I’m being truthful when I say you’re an amazing man full of humor and insights. You’ve got a gift for empathy. Someday, Badass, you’re going to be in a position to make a difference with others who need your talents and gifts.

I work with some younger men who are also hurting. Maybe it’s because we men feel that we have to be perfect or fix everything. I don’t have the answer except when guys feel bad it helps to reach out to a nonjudgmental friend and just let shit out. I’m glad I can do that for you. And, just so you know, I get a kick from your humor and earthiness.

So, a hearty fuck the Morg to you! Now pick up that mirror—I’m Badass Adam and I ...

I always try to make people laugh on here even though i have really bad pain issues i just try to push through it and try to solve one problem at a time. That is all i can do if i try to do it all at once i get overwhelmed. But i am a fixer that is for sure i believe that anything can be fixed i just have to figure out how to do it or find the specialist that knows what is going on. I can not accept that i cant fix something because i have come far reguardless of what people said against me in the past when i was a lot worse. I will figure out how to be healthy and get out of pain you watch me.

No, it can't beat you, you must stay strong. Take for example Nancy Rigdon, she was only 19 and refused to be horny Joe's wife although she had a lot to lose, she resisted.
And you can beat the cult, just believe in yourself no matter what happen.
You are not the black sheep, you are not a worthless soul, you are badassadam, you are a good, sincere and brave person (you have to be very brave to talk about your feelings and weaknesses like you talk).

You'll never walk alone, we are with you.

You bet it's psychological warfare. I got into a huge screaming fight with my TBM brother the other day because he said he will do temple work for my mom who quit the church at the end of her life, and also for our nevermo ancestors. I know that the temple and baptism for the dead crap is nonsense but it really pissed me off and I totally lost my temper. It is so aggravating talking to people who are so brainwashed. I mean, it's one thing if they believe in basic Christian teachings but when they believe in golden plates being carried up to heaven, baptizing people on behalf of the dead, Israelites being the ancestors of Native Americans when there's not a shred of evidence to support it, etc., it is totally CRAZY making!!! It's my fault though, I must not engage in any religious discussion with my TBM family members. If they want to believe the hocus pocus, it's their right.

You can only control yourself and your thoughts and have to allow others to believe what they want. They have zero power over you and you don't have to let them get to you - it's up to you.

Its crazy because they believe all the craziness no matter what it is and i just dont get it. My father has always cared about dead people more than his f#cking family it is so weird i will never understand. I always felt like there was something wrong with me because i didnt fit into the weirdness. They just make me so angry because they never quit stomping their nonsense especially with that stupid obsession with the temple. None of them could handle life if the church dissolved they would still believe in their minds.

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> Its crazy because they believe all the craziness
> no matter what it is and i just dont get it. My
> father has always cared about dead people more
> than his f#cking family it is so weird i will
> never understand. I always felt like there was
> something wrong with me because i didnt fit into
> the weirdness. They just make me so angry because
> they never quit stomping their nonsense especially
> with that stupid obsession with the temple. None
> of them could handle life if the church dissolved
> they would still believe in their minds.

If Thomas S., his counselors, and all twelve apostles hit the airwaves, the Internet, the talk show circuit, and every other way of publicizing anything to announce that everything the church has ever taught is 100% false, next week's Sacrament Meeting attendance would still be roughly the same as last week's was.



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EXACTLY everybody stopped using their brains a long time ago.

This totally cracked me up!

:D

Adam, none of us can know with absolute 100% certainty exactly how we got here and exactly what is going to happen once we're gone. Nonetheless, the life of Joseph Smith is sufficient to convince me that any religion he created wasn't done with God as the co-creator. Regarding a whole lot of other things, I'm not totally sure so I do a lot of hedging my bets just in case. Regarding Joseph Smith and the many churches that came into existence based on the stuff he came up with, however, I'm quite comfortable with knowing he and his teachings will have absolutely nothing to do with any salvation I may or may not have, or, even more important to me, with the salvation of my children.

You will have to come to that awareness on your own, but just think about it. Read the early church history. Read the CES letters. If there is one true religion on the Earth, and I'm not convinced there is, what are the odds that you and I would both have lucked into being born into it? And why would the One True Church have almost as many assholes as decent people as members? Why would a God who supposedly inspires callings put so many jerks in positions of authority? Why would he put so many men who are later discovered to be highly corrupt into leadership positions of the church? And the one pathway to heaven wouldn't feature the nonsensical Masonic mumbo jumbo of the LDS temple ceremonies. I could go on all night.

We'll never be sure how it's all going o go down until it's over, but I've grown very confident that the end will not consist of finding the resurrected Joseph Smith sitting at the right hand of Jesus, or anything like that.

No one else can make the discovery for you. You're going to have to find it for yourself. If you look at the evidence, however, it's not all that hard to connect the dots and know for yourself that it cannot possibly be true.



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I have looked at a ton of evidence and have heard many testimonies like my own and i am always convicted that there is something just not right about the church even without knowing the history. And i have questioned all those things about the type of weasels put in high positions, does that mean god is a weasel maybe? I say to myself. There is a part of me that wants to embrace the fantasy but it just isnt real. Death oaths? Secret handshakes? This is not what i imagined even in my wildest fantasy, its like a dark fantasy that you are just like wtf.

Adam, not only is there something not quite right about the church; a whole lot of things about it are blatantly wrong.

Have you ever closely studied any other religions? If you have, you know that a lot of them are made to sound like the truth when described from their own perspectives. If it looks, sounds, and smells really strange, though, it IS really strange and is not God's one true way (and there likely isn't any such thing).

You do have a point, i took a world religions class in college and i kind of liked it especially when we got to buddhism.

When you are talking with another Mormon, start to think of and perhaps refer to Mormonism as "your church," in the same manner that you would when talking with a JW, a Catholic, a Baptist, or anyone else. That will help you to feel more in control and to start putting some emotional distance between yourself and Mormonism.

"There will never be a time when life is simple. There will always be time to practice accepting that. Every moment is a chance to let go and feel peaceful."

https://tinybuddha.com/blog/40-ways-to-let-go-and-feel-less-pain/

https://tinybuddha.com/blog/surprising-way-let-go-painful-feelings-the-past/

You have been socialized from day one to believe a certain way. It takes time to change your mindset from what you used to think was normal.

The farther away from the church you get, the crazier it looks.

Adam, I admire you (and so do a lot of others) for having the courage to break away, and you are not alone; there are many here who have gone through different kinds of difficulties because they, like you, have decided they want truth in their lives. When you think about it, every single religion is man-made and is actually the opinions of those who created the religions. None of us really knows what the next life will be like, but I have my positive hopes of what lies ahead. In the meantime, vent away all that you need to, whether with a counselor or on RfM, because venting is part of the healing process. For me, I've actually begun to really live and smell the roses, as they say. It can be very lonely when you find out truth, but it's better to have a few loyal and honest friends than to have a lot of "acquaintances" who would just as soon do you a dirty trick. Time heals all wounds and wounds all heels; things will get better.