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Posted by: Badassadam1 ( )
Date: October 14, 2017 04:27PM

I have PTSD and i dont have the self control yet for sure. Block badassadam and Badassadam1. I am way more hurt then everybody else that is clear besides a couple. I am afraid of my anger transfering in the real world and i hurt someone because i was triggered on the board. Thanks administration if you do this for me.

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Posted by: Eric K ( )
Date: October 14, 2017 05:03PM

We cannot do that. You are on ATT. Each time you log in the IP assigned to you will change. We cannot block all of ATT. Just remove our link from your browser.

I hope you can get the help you need. You are always welcome back.

Eric

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Posted by: Badassadam1 ( )
Date: October 14, 2017 05:58PM

I am not really an internet guy. Everytime i try to go to another site like google or something this site shows up everytime and i dont know how to erase the history on my phone. This will be tough.

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Posted by: Mnemonic ( )
Date: October 14, 2017 07:03PM

Badassadam1 Wrote:
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> i dont know how to erase the history on my phone.

iPhone
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201265


Android:
https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/95589?co=GENIE.Platform%3DAndroid&hl=en-GB

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Posted by: Badassadam1 ( )
Date: October 14, 2017 07:09PM

Its an LG phone is that an android?

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Posted by: Mnemonic ( )
Date: October 14, 2017 07:20PM

Badassadam1 Wrote:
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> Its an LG phone is that an android?


Yes.

Good luck to you. Hope you get feeling better.

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Posted by: Badassadam1 ( )
Date: October 14, 2017 11:18PM

The badass isnt doing so good someone asked me if i was feeling ok today and that is not a good sign. I think i am taking too many meds or something i don't know i think i will back off of a few and see what happens. Plus this cold weather is shutting down my body and making my injuries feel worse.

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Posted by: Mnemonic ( )
Date: October 14, 2017 11:34PM

The change in weather and the seasons can be difficult for many people with chronic illnesses. The shorter days can make you feel depressed and the bad weather can make you feel worse physically. Finding the right medications can also be very difficult. You should always consult with your doctor before changing or stopping your medications. It's also helpful to find support. NAMI can help you find a support group.

https://www.nami.org

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Posted by: Hockeyrat ( )
Date: October 14, 2017 11:37PM

Take care ok,? You scare me, only you know how you feel.If you feel like coming back , just do it, don't worry about a FEW people here who might seem to have a problem with anything. People have their reasons to come and go , and no one knows what you're going through. I think you have more support than not here
I know you're a lot younger than I am, but I grew up with different churches. It was the worse when my parents were fundamental baptist in the 70s, when they were at their worse, controlling, back stabbing hypocrites ( the church, not my parents ). My parents told them to take a hike when they were telling them to destroy our Rock records.
I hope you find the right help and can break free and feel free finally too

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Posted by: Badassadam1 ( )
Date: October 15, 2017 01:28PM

My body is shutting down i thought i had more time before it snowed. I wanted to try just one more surgery as a last ditch effort but i may not make it. The body knows best. I tried to make an impossible comeback i really did but i think i really did die a long time ago.

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: October 15, 2017 01:44PM

You may be one of 20 million Americans who suffer from Seasonal Affective Disorder. It occurs with the changing seasons from mid-October through late March - May of each year in cold, northern climates.

Check with your doctor about taking a script for that.

There is one that works well for S.A.D. that is an anti-depressant called Welbutrin. The generic form is buproprion. It doesn't make you sleepy like many anti-depressants on the market do.

Also, if it's S.A.D. you are suffering with (that may have been undiagnosed heretofore,) you can also help boost your mood by increasing your Vitamin D intake - by 2000 IU daily during winter months. My doctor has prescribed that for me, and so has my therapist for the winter blahs.

It really helps in being a mood lifter. It isn't expensive, and is over-the-counter.

Try the Vitamin D if you aren't on it already. Then talk to your doctor about S.A.D. He can prescribe something for that (Welbutrin is the most commonly prescribed med for that that I know of because it works very well w/S.A.D.)

From what you're describing it sounds like that is what you're suffering from - it comes on out of the blue this time of year.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/15/2017 01:45PM by Amyjo.

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Posted by: rt ( )
Date: October 16, 2017 12:31PM

For god's sake, get some real help instead of relying on anonymous strangers on the internet peddling pseudo-scientific quackery.

Though well-intended, I'm sure, this is actually dangerous.

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Posted by: Badassadam1 ( )
Date: October 16, 2017 01:03PM

I see many specialists every week.

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Posted by: rt ( )
Date: October 16, 2017 01:37PM

Good for you. I hope you get well soon.

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Posted by: Badassadam1 ( )
Date: October 16, 2017 01:49PM

Enjoy your "life" and don't take it for granted

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Posted by: Badassadam1 ( )
Date: October 15, 2017 03:05PM

I think i do have that this has happened to me every single winter since i have been up here. I am from arizona so i am not used to this. I am very sad that is for sure i have been on welbutrin in the past and i did ok on it but it wasn't for this S.A.D. thing.

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Posted by: Tevai ( )
Date: October 15, 2017 03:31PM

Badassadam1 Wrote:
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> I think i do have that this has happened to me
> every single winter since i have been up here. I
> am from arizona so i am not used to this. I am
> very sad that is for sure i have been on welbutrin
> in the past and i did ok on it but it wasn't for
> this S.A.D. thing.

Adam...please do this ASAP.

You can find Vitamin D (make sure it is the "D3" form, which most are now, but you still have to check) at a number of places like health food stores, or GNC stores, or in drug stores, and probably in at least some supermarkets as well (though I don't know about your specific area).

You can also find it in 5000 IU capsules or tablets, which is a safe dose, and I suggest that you begin (at least) with the 5000 IU capsules, since your body may be needing Vitamin D3 quite a lot right now.

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Posted by: Badassadam1 ( )
Date: October 15, 2017 03:38PM

Are you sure i need that much i just did 2,000. I don't want to do this wrong and overload myself.

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Posted by: Tevai ( )
Date: October 15, 2017 03:47PM

Badassadam1 Wrote:
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> Are you sure i need that much i just did 2,000. I
> don't want to do this wrong and overload myself.

I have no idea how much you "need," but if you ARE in need of Vitamin D (which you may well be), 5,000 IU daily is a safe dose and will get you better results faster.

Most people who take supplements (means: millions of people in North America), take 5,000 IU of Vitamin D daily (usually as one capsule or one tablet), and this is in addition to whatever Vitamin D is in their "multi" (combination of nutrients) supplements, plus whatever is in the foods they eat, plus whatever their body makes from sunshine.

By Vitamin D standards, 5000 IU per day is only a fraction of what would be "too much."

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Posted by: Badassadam1 ( )
Date: October 15, 2017 03:59PM

If you say it is safe then i will do it. Can vitamin D deficiency really shut you down?

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Posted by: Tevai ( )
Date: October 15, 2017 04:24PM

Badassadam1 Wrote:
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> If you say it is safe then i will do it. Can
> vitamin D deficiency really shut you down?

It is not so much that Vitamin D deficiency can "shut you down," but not having optimum levels in your body has been linked to (most importantly) both cancer and heart disease, plus Seasonal Affective Disorder...and Vitamin D deficiency is probably linked to a number of other diseases and disorders which are being investigated now.

In the United States:

42% of people in the USA have a Vitamin D deficiency.

82.1% of black people in the USA have a vitamin D deficiency. (Dark skin color radically slows down the body's ability to convert sunshine to bodily Vitamin D.)

69.2% of Hispanics in the USA have a Vitamin D Deficiency.

The main sources of dietary Vitamin D are cod liver oil, egg yolks and cooked mushrooms, plus fatty fish of the swordfish and salmon variety. BUT: even people who (for example) eat a lot of egg yolks, are frequently clinically deficient in Vitamin D (as exemplified by the statistics above).

Vitamin D capsules (like Vitamin C) are cheap, are available just about everywhere, and the lifetime health benefits are enormous...while the consequences of NOT having optimum Vitamin D and Vitamin C levels can result in serious and costly medical conditions no one would want to have if they knew enough to avoid them happening.

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: October 16, 2017 09:47AM

I've read where 1000 was a limit from some report.

It was my physician and therapist who told me it is safe to take 2000 IU a day.

This is what I've found online about it for differing doses:

"Bottom line: Vitamin D intake is recommended at 400–800 IU/day, or 10–20 micrograms. However, some studies suggest that a higher daily intake of 1000–4000 IU (25–100 micrograms) is needed to maintain optimal blood levels." (Healthline.com)

From the Mayo:
"For multiple sclerosis, 10,000 IU has been taken by mouth daily for 12 weeks. Other doses of vitamin D taken by mouth include 5,000 IU daily (in the form of cod liver oil), progressive weekly increases of vitamin D3 (700 micrograms per week, escalating to 7,000 micrograms per week) plus 1,200 milligrams of calcium."

"The AAP also recommends 400 IU/day of vitamin D for children and teens who drink less than a quart of vitamin D-fortified milk per day. The Vitamin D Council recommends that healthy adults take 2,000 IU of vitamin D daily -- more if they get little or no sun exposure.Dec 17, 2009
Vitamin D FAQ: Vitamin D Recommendations, Deficiency, and More
www.webmd.com/.../the-truth-about-vitamin-d-how-much-vitamin-d-do-you-need

Starting w/2000 IU a day should be sufficient. The Welbutrin will help with the more immediate underlying depression brought on by reduced sun and shorter days.

With 2000 a day you will notice an improved difference in your level of energy and less fatigue. That's the benefit I've gotten from taking that. It doesn't have to be exactly 2000 a day, but it's the one my doctor recommends to his patients.

I get mine from a calcium supplement and multi-vitamin. When you buy the Vitamin D by itself it's easier to tailor the dosage to the 2000 IU level.

Though as Tevai has pointed out since you've been feeling so poor with other conditions besides that, increasing your D vitamin shouldn't hurt. 2000 at the very minimum is my recommendation.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/16/2017 09:50AM by Amyjo.

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Posted by: Badassadam1 ( )
Date: October 16, 2017 12:31PM

Fuck i don't know what to do i am going to keep doing 5000 because i definitely feel too low on something.

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: October 16, 2017 12:39PM

At least you've got started on Vitamin D therapy.

You may not notice a difference right away, but you will over time.

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Posted by: Badassadam1 ( )
Date: October 16, 2017 01:31PM

There definitely is a good change a little bit so it might be doing something. I don't know i felt better last night then i have in a while.

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Posted by: rt ( )
Date: October 16, 2017 12:34PM

Aren't you a mod? Are you supposed to dispense medical advice? Who do I report this to?

Sounds to me like badass needs serious help, please stop diagnosing strangers over the internet.

Sheesh...

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Posted by: Clueless blowhard ( )
Date: October 16, 2017 01:20PM

My aren't you a busy body today.

Since when is dispensing helpful information a crime on a recovery site from Mormonism?

One doesn't have to be a MD to do that.

Get a grip.

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Posted by: rt ( )
Date: October 16, 2017 01:40PM

Not a crime, but potentially dangerous. There's a reason why there is a suicide sticky at the top of the forum. I think that extends to other mental health issues.

If that makes me a busy-body, guess how many fucks I give?

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Posted by: Badassadam1 ( )
Date: October 16, 2017 01:53PM

People like you cause more suicides i promise. And many of the dead would probably agree with me if they were still here.

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Posted by: Badassadam1 ( )
Date: October 16, 2017 01:34PM

MD advice is worse they just want to get through the day and talk to you like you are an idiot for 15 minutes. They don't give two shits.

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Posted by: Badassadam1 ( )
Date: October 15, 2017 03:32PM

I had some vitamin D in my cupboard so i have started with that now hopefully it helps.

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Posted by: Tevai ( )
Date: October 15, 2017 03:49PM

Badassadam1 Wrote:
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> I had some vitamin D in my cupboard so i have
> started with that now hopefully it helps.

Did you check the expiration date on the bottle or package first?

If not, check the expiration date on the bottle now to make sure that the Vitamin D inside is still full strength and has not degraded. :)

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Posted by: Badassadam1 ( )
Date: October 15, 2017 03:56PM

Dang i think it is expired 07/17. Will they not work now?

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Posted by: Tevai ( )
Date: October 15, 2017 04:02PM

Badassadam1 Wrote:
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> Dang i think it is expired 07/17. Will they not
> work now?

They will still work, but maybe at a somewhat diminished (though undoubtedly insignificant) strength.

Go ahead and finish the bottle.

Once you finish the ones in the bottle you already have, you can buy a new bottle.

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Posted by: Badassadam1 ( )
Date: October 15, 2017 04:37PM

Dang it i should have read the board again i just bought a new bottle and took 3000 of it. So i have taken 2000 of the expired and 3000 of the new. Should i stop right there for today? And then keep trying to finish of the old bottle? Can vitamin D deficiency cause nerve pain or anything like that?

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Posted by: Tevai ( )
Date: October 15, 2017 05:29PM

Badassadam1 Wrote:
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> Dang it i should have read the board again i just
> bought a new bottle and took 3000 of it. So i
> have taken 2000 of the expired and 3000 of the
> new. Should i stop right there for today?

Yes...stop for today. :)


> And then keep trying to finish of the old bottle?

You can finish the old bottle, or you can throw the contents of the old bottle into the trash--your choice. (Please put the empty bottle into the recycling bin, because we need to save the planet--this is the only one we've got.)


> vitamin D deficiency cause nerve pain or anything
> like that?

I just Googled "Can Vitamin D deficiency cause nerve pain?" and the answer is: Yes.

Two excerpts:

1) "As a result, a deficiency of vitamin D impairs nociceptor function, worsens nerve damage, and lowers the pain threshold. ...a nonrandomized study of 51 diabetic subjects with painful diabetic neuropathy showed a 50% decrease in pain scores with vitamin D repletion."

2) "Not getting enough vitamin D can hurt your health in ways you may not expect. Symptoms of vitamin D deficiency include bone pain, muscle weakness, increased blood pressure, and depression."

This does NOT mean that you are to drink down a whole bottle of Vitamin D3 capsules immediately, or in the next week or so!!!

Even IF part of the pain you are experiencing is because of low Vitamin D levels in your body, you need to build up to normal/optimum levels in gentle gradations, and NOT overdoing it is really important.

Take supplementary Vitamin D3 at 5000 (or so) IU/day for a few weeks, and then reevaluate how you feel. If it seems to be helping, then continue on with the 5,000 IU/day supplement capsules for the rest of your life.

Also important: You need to be eating a good diet, with mostly good stuff (and decreasing amounts of bad stuff: regular soft drinks, empty carbs like sugar and high-fructose corn syrup, bad fats, and junk food in general).

You should be taking a good "multi" every day, one that your body digests easily and takes maximum advantage of. I, personally, recommend that you go to your local GNC store and ask for guidance. Although there are some serious-person quibbles about a few recent GNC products (most importantly: talc being used in the manufacturing process of some supplements, which used to happen ONLY to the mass market, relatively junk stuff, products), overall (and since you don't yet have more than a layperson's knowledge) the multis at GNC are better quality, and have better composition, than most of the multis available in more mass-market venues. Think of it as, comparatively, very low-cost "health insurance."

Now...Google: "Can Vitamin D deficiency cause nerve pain?" and read whatever seems of value to you. You will learn a great deal that will be of value to you for the rest of your life.



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Posted by: Badassadam1 ( )
Date: October 15, 2017 05:39PM

Holy sh#t if this helps the nerve pain in my legs it will be an absolute miracle. Its like the biggest mystery of all time.

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Posted by: Devoted Exmo ( )
Date: October 15, 2017 05:29PM

Vitamin D is a fat soluble vitamin, so you can take too much. My doc said my levels were abismal and ordered me to take 5,000 units. I wouldn't take more than that per day.

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Posted by: Badassadam1 ( )
Date: October 15, 2017 05:40PM

Alright that is exactly what i will take then. Should i get tested?

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Posted by: Devoted Exmo ( )
Date: October 15, 2017 06:16PM

If you can, yes you should.

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Posted by: Badassadam1 ( )
Date: October 16, 2017 03:32PM

I am going to the express lab today to get tested screw the doctor he should have ordered this from the beginning. I need to figure this shit out.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: October 15, 2017 05:33PM

Ask the Boner for his thoughts on vitamins M & F...

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Posted by: Badassadam1 ( )
Date: October 15, 2017 05:48PM

Feel like i haven't talked to boner in forever. I tried to figure out the best vitamins to take in the past but i just felt like i was overloading myself.

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Posted by: ificouldhietokolob ( )
Date: October 16, 2017 09:27AM

adam, you're not going to get anywhere in your life by having other people control your actions.
You've got to do it yourself.

You'll probably fail a few times. Maybe a lot of times. That's OK, keep at it.

You'll get there.

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Posted by: Badassadam1 ( )
Date: October 16, 2017 12:47PM

Nobody gets anywhere in life they just think they do. I had the money i owned property big f#cking deal. As an athiest you should know we all end up in the same place, the ground. I just don't want to be in severe pain on the way there. Whether people tell me what to do or not i still get no where so if i can figure out what the hell is wrong with my legs i would be very grateful, doctors don't really care that much they don't have nerve pain issues or depression or whatever the hell is wrong with, cult survivor i have many labels and basically i just want to be out of pain and thats it. Working was easy for me when i was able i don't see work as an accomplishment. I will get totally healthy in this life again which means no severe pain basically.

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: October 16, 2017 10:10AM

Plus if you leave RfM, you aren't going to be able to check in to let us know how you're doing!

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Posted by: rt ( )
Date: October 16, 2017 12:35PM

So badass thinks RfM is bad for him and you encourage him to stay? What the fuck is going on here, I really don't get it.

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: October 16, 2017 12:38PM

He has many friends here and a support group.

Letting him know he's always welcome here is a bad thing?

Some people here really care how he's doing.

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Posted by: Badassadam1 ( )
Date: October 16, 2017 01:00PM

Don't care about me i have known for a while there was a chance i could not get better no matter what i did. I am healthy enough to leave this world if i choose and for that i am grateful, before i was too messed up to succeed and i would rather go down by my own hand then any other. I know how to fix my neck but as for everything else i have no clue. I know part of my issues is the church and that is why i am here, it's where the self destruction began. Nobody destroys themselves and their body on purpose but i did and i still want to know why through counseling. I do have a feeling that i am not the only person that destroyed themselves on purpose because of family and the church. Fuck my legs hurt right now why isn't there a fix the body pill or something jesus christ the body can't fix shit on its own.

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: October 16, 2017 01:28PM

Ttt ttt.

You've got to have friends.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bVz4-VG_Yo

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Posted by: Badassadam1 ( )
Date: October 16, 2017 01:40PM

Jesus feel like a kid again. I have never been as healthy as that woman in the clip in my entire life.

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Posted by: CL2 ( )
Date: October 16, 2017 12:00PM

My doctor had me taking 5000 IU a day. It is safe. I had a very low vitamin D. He said the lowest he had ever seen. You need SUN. Before it snows, maybe you can get out into the sun. I'm worried about you, too. Are you on anything for depression? You said you'd been on Wellbutrin. The only thing that has ever worked even a bit for me is Prozac. They tried me on all kinds of pills and they just made me suicidal. If I take 10 mg of Prozac, it is just enough USUALLY to take the edge off, but my doctor has me on 20 mg, 10 mg morning, 10 mg at night, because I'm not doing so well. My brother and my nephew also only do good on Prozac. I can't imagine having this and fb on my phone. I can get them on my phone, but I just hate phones so much that I only use it when I absolutely have to, so I'm able to step away from the computer when I'm done working.

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Posted by: Beth ( )
Date: October 16, 2017 05:32PM

I'm on so many daily meds (right now, six + two PRN), that the last thing I need is an inadvertent crossing of the meds wires that could make me very ill.

Physical exam/labs -> dx -> prescription for things like nutritional deficiencies, especially during the PNW winters. Two weeks later: labs/physical exam -> tweaking of the meds if necessary -> d/c, ∆, etc. -> f/u appt in two weeks. Repeat until it we work it out.

The only OTC thing I can take without possibly jacking up the other meds and my stomach is acetaminophen, on occasion. So, the *only* thing I take without running it by my doctors is...acetaminophen, on occasion.

I carry a list of all of my GD drugs, dosages, and times I take what, with me in case I am hospitalized (three days off of one of my meds without titrating back up can = Stevens-Johnson syndrome which is Not A Good Thing).

My meds/conditions/doctors are also saved on the medical tab on my cell phone which can be unlocked if I'm incapacitated. When I see my docs, I double check that my current meds and hx are in my file that travels across practices in the same network. I also make sure my personal list is correct.

Age, congenital dz, and psych issues can be a bitch, and these meds are not to be trifled with.

I like my kidneys. I like my liver. I usually like my brain. I prefer to take as few medications as possible, and we check that ish out, too.

Pseudoephedrine is bad juju for me. It works so well, but I like maintaining a healthy BP.

My 2¢? Stick with the science and scientists before *ingesting* OTC meds.



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Posted by: Badassadam1 ( )
Date: October 16, 2017 07:10PM

I backed off acetaminaphen i was thinking it was high jacking my meds and drying me out and slowing me down.

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