Thanks for this link. The other would not work on my phone.

17. Do you belong to a stupid cult?

This is a great heads up. Thank you so much for posting This!

10. Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings
or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by The Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter-day Saints?

Yes.

Group? The morons (affiliate, not support or agree with). Individual? The devil [of the Mormon church]/ general (liars) [so-called] 'authorities'.

readwrite Wrote:
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> 10. Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with
> any group or individual whose teachings
> or practices are contrary to or oppose those
> accepted by The Church of Jesus Christ of
> Latter-day Saints?
>
Let's say a devout 18-year-old Mormon guy who is hoping to go on a Mission has a best friend who is a devout Roman Catholic. Surely the Catholic Church (as well as Protestant churches) must have some teachings that are contrary to what the Mormon Church teaches. So our devout Mormon guy would have to answer, yes, he does affiliate in friendship with an individual whose teachings and practices are contrary to the Mormon Church.

Or am I reading too much into this question?

This always puzzled me as well. My father was strongly anti-Mormon and taught me continually that Mormonism was an evil fraud. He came home almost every day with something new about the corrupt Mormon Church. Yet, I supported him and affiliated with him very closely. I loved him and trusted him but still, strangely, believed in Mormonism. And my father was the one who took me to the airport to leave on my mission and cared for my car while I was gone. He supported me for most of my life and I was not supposed to support him. Very, very odd situation.

This one always seemed odd to me, since the correct answer is "No."
"No, but I sure expect to as soon as I reach the mission field... And by the way, what happened to 'every member a missionary?' Wouldn't 'affiliating' with nonmember friends be kind of necessary for that? WTF."

I thought the sex questions would have been more explicit.

"Have you ever put your ****** in a *******."

Dyslexia? Really? So you cannot read the scriptures out loud it makes you exempt? Makes me think of Klinger on M.A.S.H. I cannot read aloud. Now send me home/reject me so I can get on with my life.

If I'd gotten a grilling like that to serve a mission I'd have rethought the whole thing. But I guess that's what they want. Fewer missionaries.

I see this list in terms of two issues:

(1) Complaints from MPs all over the world about being sent "flawed" missionaries who require inordinate amounts of time for them to deal with, and will often wind up being sent home early.

(2) The plan, mentioned in another thread at the moment, to lower the number of missionaries from the recent all-time high of 88,000 to a steady 70,000. A number of these questions seem likely to derail or at least to put the brakes down hard on many applications.

Weeding out the "problem children" pre-MTC and reducing the quantity in the mission field -- both accomplished at once by shrewd interrogations along these lines. That's the idea.

Concerning the question about psychiatric medications, the use of which is now so prevalent compared to yesteryear, it's also a hard disqualification for military service unless discontinued over a year before enlistment, and the prospective recruit is certified to be functioning normally without the drug.

Likewise, we know that kids today are unfortunately more likely to be obese and out of shape than ever in the past, and so one of the questions is largely about: will you be able to survive bicycling (and walking) for many miles a week? My hunch is that the MPs in Outer Ozonia are probably also sending complaints about too many out-of-shape American teenagers breaking down by the side of the road or reporting injuries due to unaccustomed physical stress and strain. Below the level of the expected damage from serving on true "hardship" missions.

Curelom Joe Wrote:
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> I see this list in terms of two issues:
>
> (1) Complaints from MPs all over the world about
> being sent "flawed" missionaries who require
> inordinate amounts of time for them to deal with,
> and will often wind up being sent home early.
>
> (2) The plan, mentioned in another thread at the
> moment, to lower the number of missionaries from
> the recent all-time high of 88,000 to a steady
> 70,000. A number of these questions seem likely to
> derail or at least to put the brakes down hard on
> many applications.
>
> Weeding out the "problem children" pre-MTC and
> reducing the quantity in the mission field -- both
> accomplished at once by shrewd interrogations
> along these lines. That's the idea.

I agree with your assessment and would add:

3) The LDS church doesn't want any missionaries that could get it in legal trouble. Note that questions 7, 8, and 9 ask about specific legal issues, though 8 in general would be covered by 5. Question 13, I think, would prevent most disabled people from serving as well.

1. "Do you masturbate?"
2. "When did you last masturbate?"
3. "Are you masturbating now?"
4. "Now?"
5. "How about right now?"
6. "Still?"
[...]
16. "Right this very moment?"

Well done.

I live in the country and still have dial up, so I can't get a copy of those questions downloaded successfully.

But I can read stuff posted here with out problem.

Could somebody cut and paste the questions here, so I can see what they are going to be hitting my neices and nephews with?

Thanks in advance.

Interview Questions

1. Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father; His Son, Jesus Christ; and the Holy Ghost?

2. Do you have a testimony that Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of God and the Savior and Redeemer of the world? Please share your testimony with me. How has the Atonement of Jesus Christ influenced your life?

3. What does it mean to you to repent? Do you feel that you have fully repented of past transgressions?

4. Will you share your testimony with me that the gospel and Church of Jesus Christ have been restored through the Prophet Joseph Smith and that [current Church President] is a prophet of God?

5. Full-time missionary service requires living gospel standards. What do you understand about the following standards? a. The law of chastity In reference to the law of chastity, have you always lived in accordance with what has been discussed? If not, how long ago did the transgression(s) occur? What have you done to repent? b. Avoiding pornography c. The law of tithing d. The Word of Wisdom, including the use of drugs or the abuse of prescribed medications e. Keeping the Sabbath day holy f. Being honest in all you say and do Have you lived in accordance with all of these standards? Are you now living in accordance with them? Will you live in accordance with them as a full-time missionary?

6. Do you have any legal actions pending against you? (If yes, ask the candidate to explain in detail possible legal or financial obligations. See Handbook 1: Stake Presidents and Bishops [2010], 4.4.)

7. Have you ever committed a serious violation of criminal law, regardless of whether or not you were arrested, you were convicted, or the record was expunged? (If yes, ask the missionary candidate to explain in detail what happened, the outcome of any criminal charges, whether there are criminal or other legal requirements that have not been completed, and what he or she has done to repent. See Handbook 1: Stake Presidents and Bishops [2010], 4.4 and “Serious Transgressions” in 4.5.2.)

8. Have you ever sexually abused a child in any way, regardless of whether or not you were charged, you were convicted, or the record was expunged? (If yes, and the abuse has not been reported, see Handbook 1: Stake Presidents and Bishops [2010], 17.3.2, for instructions. If the abuse was previously resolved, see Handbook 1, 4.4, for direction.)

9. Have you ever committed any other serious transgression or misdeed that should be resolved before your mission? (If yes, ask the candidate to explain in detail what happened, the outcome of any criminal charges, whether there are criminal or other legal requirements that have not been completed, and what he or she has done to repent.)

10. Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

11. Do you have any unpaid debts? How will these debts be paid off before your mission or managed while you serve a mission? (See Handbook 1: Stake Presidents and Bishops [2010], 4.4.)

12. Do you currently have or have you ever had any physical, mental, or emotional condition that would make it difficult for you to maintain a normal missionary schedule, which requires that you work for 12–15 hours a day, including studying for 2–4 hours a day, walking or biking for up to 8–10 hours a day, and so forth?

13. Have you ever been diagnosed with or received treatment for dyslexia or other reading disorder? If so, are you comfortable reading the scriptures and other documents aloud? Do you believe that you could memorize appropriate scriptures and other information with the assistance of your companion? In what ways do you now compensate for this disorder?

14. Have you ever been diagnosed with or received treatment for a speech disorder? If so, are you comfortable speaking in front of others? Do you feel that you have adequate tools to help you learn, teach, and communicate?

15. Have you ever been on medication or otherwise treated for any of the following conditions: attention deficit disorder (ADD), attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), anxiety, depression, obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD), or autism spectrum disorder (including Asperger’s)? If yes, please explain.

16. If you were being treated for one of these conditions and discontinued treatment, did you do so under a doctor’s supervision? If not, why did you stop? How well have you been functioning without treatment or medication? When was the last time you were on medication for these issues?



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I've been out of the cult for almost 30 years now. Reading this made me ill. I can't believe there was a time in my life when reading something like this intimidated me and made me feel unworthy, and oh how I beat myself up and tried so hard to be "worthy." What an oppressive, judgmental and unforgiving cult I belonged to.

I was surprised that heavy petting was lumped in with adultery and serious violation of civil law: "A person who has been guilty (I like how they make it a crime) of adultery, fornication, HEAVY PETTING, homosexual activity, other sexual perversions, serious violations of civil law, or other serious transgressions must repent before he or she may be recommended for missionary service"

The other thing that I noticed for the first time is that only chastity and tithing are laws: law of tithing, law of chastity. Can they even legally be called laws? I wonder why keeping the Sabbath day holy and word of wisdom are not also identified as laws. Weird.

what is heavy petting ?

Touching the mommy and daddy parts.

...grinding the mommy and daddy parts!

Once you got the hang of it, and prepared for it properly, dry humping was sublime. All the pleasure, none of the risk...

When I confessed of heavy petting before my mission, I was "guilty" of having my boobs and butt stroked while fully clothed. My punishment was abstaining from the sacrament for two months and reading "The Miracle of Forgiveness" aka, "It's a Miracle if You're Forgiven." I was 21 years old. I can't believe I let the creepy bishop have such power over me.

Still trying to figure out what homosexual activity is.

Smiling at another guy?

even now at age 52. He went on a mission and he shouldn't have. But he didn't have dyslexia and hadn't been on medication for depression, etc. He can read scriptures out loud. They didn't ask here if they have any disabilities like he had a stroke when he was born and doesn't have good use of his left arm and leg, but he can use them, just not well. He is mentally disabled, was in special education (what do they call it now)?

Am I missing something here? Or is he just already eliminated (like he should have been). His mission was a huge mistake. He has never been the same.

Yes, for the work that is supposedly the most important work on the face of the earth, I have seen the Church just in my lifetime weirdly waffle back and forth between wanting seemingly every possible person/body be a missionary (i.e., 18 month missions, age change to 18), and making the requirements suddenly more difficult to go (i.e, raising the bar, and now these interview questions). They cannot seem to make up their collective mind for more than a decade.

Well it's not as easy as the old days where the prophet just had to decide who's wife he wanted and send her husband on a mission.

Who Cares what the church does anyway?

If a silly 18 year old wants to go on a mission, then that's his prerogative.

In fact, if he can answer all of these silly questions......and still feel that it's his duty to go, then Mr., Fare the Well....

"Though I’ve belted you an flayed you,
By the livin’ Gawd that made you,
You’re a better man than I am, Gunga Din!

As a former MORmON missionary, Ive only got one question for potential Doomsday CULT recruuters, "Are you sure you want to spend the next two years being forced to lie by ommission as you sell a deeply flawed product?"

How about asking the missionary, "What do you know about the Mormon Church? Would you like to know more? ...Really?" Because I didn't know I was omitting anything on my mission. I honestly shared all the info I had and sometimes that got me into trouble.

"Golden questions lead to golden contacts!"

I'd rather have a Golden Shower.

Elder Reno Martin and his sweet sweet first wife, is something.

I like how the document ends with a section titled "Honesty and Integrity"...as if they should be lecturing on *that* subject.

+a lot



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It certainly sounds like it was written by a team of attorneys.

"It is a privilege to serve the Lord"? How about, "We are lucky that anyone wants to do this."

Those are some very manipulative questions.

I guess they feel like the bishops didn't get the hint 15 years ago when The Brethren specifically stated not to use a mission to reactivate a young person who was falling by the wayside.

The explicit legal questions are obviously from church legal staff trying to cover their asse(t)s.

Bishop: Johnny do you have a problem with masturbation?

Johnny: No bishop i do not- it works for me every time. so do you have a masturbation problem?

BTW- there is not a GA alive who can pass that interview honestly!!

Father: Son, if you masturbate, you'll go blind.

Son: Okay, dad, thanks! I'll quit as soon as I start to need glasses!