a resignation. If they get notified this quickly, that is insane fast. But that is my only guess for the insane pounding on my door all day. Jesus f#cking christ i thought everybody was watching another fixed super bowl with the patriots winning in heroic fashion. Guess the eagles are winning if my door is getting pounded on. Anyways just joking with the nfl fans, it's a business i get it, like the mormon church. Thought for sure i would have this whole day to myself, i even changed my phone number. I am just pissed off at the relentless pounding on my door that's all, it's like a horror movie every sunday. I swear they only care on sunday.

It can get really creepy. You begin to feel like you're being stalked.

Greyfort Wrote:
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> It can get really creepy. You begin to feel like
> you're being stalked.

Dude you are not joking i had a feeling this would happen. That's why i tried to get as strong and healthy as possible before i officially resigned. I decided to go to walmart and try to hide out for a while. This is the most my door has ever been pounded on and i was really trying to rest on the sabbath for christ's sakes. They are so full of sh#t with keeping the sabbath day holy. But i really had a feeling this would get creepy as f#ck really fast. Nobody truly gives a sh#t unless you sue them or resign. Weird creatures they are, not sure how i ever survived in their strange land. Thought i picked a d@mn good weekend to resign too. I do have a question though, since i resigned can the praying for me in a creepy prayer circle stop? Or can that still continue? I always hated that putting my name in a temple and being prayed over. That has always been something that has always bothered me. Anyways, nobody should have to hide in their own home while people are pounding on your door while you are trying to heal from neck surgery or even not healing from neck surgery, it's f#cking ridiculous. But on a different note if the eagles win then the badass will step down as prophet, seer, and revelator. I pass my powers to the boner. May gawd be with me through the mormon sh#tstorm that i foresee won't die down for a while.

As a nevermo, I don’t know if this would help but can you just tell the door pounders that you have resigned your membership in tscc?

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That is EXACTLY how i felt. This house better be on f#cking fire.

Sorry they're pounding on your door on Super Bowl Day or any other day. This will end and you'll have blessed peace and quiet.

Cheryl Wrote:
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> Sorry they're pounding on your door on Super Bowl
> Day or any other day. This will end and you'll
> have blessed peace and quiet.

Is it traumatic for everybody that does the official resigning? I feel i prepped myself as much as humanly possible. Through rfm and getting my surgeries done, but those monsters don't let go easy. And anybody born in it knows this very d@mn well.

And it's traumatic for many. Mormons know this and try to take advantage by harassing those who resign when they're still a little shaky.

Cheryl Wrote:
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> And it's traumatic for many. Mormons know this and
> try to take advantage by harassing those who
> resign when they're still a little shaky.

I am a little shaky that's for d@mn sure, i will admit it. Never mustered up the power to do this before. And the pounding on my door was scary relentless yesterday. Why the f#ck were they not watching the superbowl like everyone else? I thought all those mormon leaders watched the superbowl.

Go pound on their doors. At 9:30 at night. Ask them what they wanted.

Heartless Wrote:
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> Go pound on their doors. At 9:30 at night. Ask
> them what they wanted.

Come with me i need an rfm partner with me haha. We'll pretend we are the fire brigade like they do.

(Scary music): “ They’re back!”

Hockeyrat Wrote:
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> (Scary music): “ They’re back!”

I could seriously make a scary movie about the last six months with their relentless onslaught on my poor door.

Hey! Now that you've resigned, you can put a sign up -

NO PREACHING
NO LOVE BOMBING
NO TITHING
SHUNNING BY APPOINTMENT ONLY

That next to last one ought to do it.

:)

I tried to get a custom sign made but it was closed on the weekends.

Getting a custom sign made finally be the way. It's pretty good and will get the point across.

Print out the CES letter and hand it to them next time they come by. My guess it they will try anything to save your soul. Open the door and say that you are no longer a member.

subeamnotlogedin Wrote:
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> Print out the CES letter and hand it to them next
> time they come by. My guess it they will try
> anything to save your soul. Open the door and say
> that you are no longer a member.

I have actually never read the CES letter. I am sure it has some good stuff in it though.

I was telling DH about your many visitors. My daughter gave this suggestion: Tell him to open the door and take a leak right on their shoes.
That might be just the thing to get rid of them!!!

pugsly Wrote:
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> I was telling DH about your many visitors. My
> daughter gave this suggestion: Tell him to open
> the door and take a leak right on their shoes.
> That might be just the thing to get rid of them!!!

Then they could really say he couldn't keep his weenie in his pants hahaha.

My mother talked about this while I was growing up or someone did?!!! Maybe it wasn't my mother!!! Anyway, I thought it was something really special. Of course, when it comes to the temple, nothing is ever special.

They have this bag they put on the alter that is full of names on slips of paper (as I understand it as I didn't see the slips of paper) and then they do the pay lay ale (or however you spell it and it is now oh god hear the words of my mouth) and then the officiator says more of a prayer. I can't remember if you have to keep the signs and tokens in place as prayer circle members or not. Goes to show you how long ago I went and how often I went.

It was far from special.

I'm fairly certain my name is always in the prayer bag. If my friend isn't doing it, then my daughter probably is now or my aunt.

The people knocking on your door are probably those mormons who don't allow themselves to watch football on Sunday and so are pissed that you probably were, so were trying to interrupt. My dad would have opened the door and said, "What the hell do you want?" No lie.



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cl2 Wrote:
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> My mother talked about this while I was growing up
> or someone did?!!! Maybe it wasn't my mother!!!
> Anyway, I thought it was something really special.
> Of course, when it comes to the temple, nothing is
> ever special.
>
> They have this bag they put on the alter that is
> full of names on slips of paper (as I understand
> it as I didn't see the slips of paper) and then
> they do the pay lay ale (or however you spell it
> and it is now oh god hear the words of my mouth)
> and then the officiator says more of a prayer. I
> can't remember if you have to keep the signs and
> tokens in place as prayer circle members or not.
> Goes to show you how long ago I went and how often
> I went.
>
> It was far from special.
>
> I'm fairly certain my name is always in the prayer
> bag. If my friend isn't doing it, then my daughter
> probably is now or my aunt.
>
> The people knocking on your door are probably
> those mormons who don't allow themselves to watch
> football on Sunday and so are pissed that you
> probably were, so were trying to interrupt. My dad
> would have opened the door and said, "What the
> hell do you want?" No lie.

F#ck everything about that d@mn religion. And f#ck anybody that tries to get in my way of being healthy and a normal human being again.

Next time, they come knocking, open the door and say what my dad would have said, "WHAT THE HELL DO YOU WANT?"

Some guy came to pick me up for a date and my dad opened the door and said that. ha ha ha The guy took it well.

If you used Quit Mormon, their letter to LDS Inc should say that all communication between you and LDS Inc should be through them.

If that is what it says (check), you will need proof of who from LDS inc is at your door. A cell phone photo should do, but that means you will need to answer the door and photograph them.

Is it possible that it was some of your family, and not LDS officials at your door. The "contact the law office" thing would not apply to them. That's why you would need proof of who was actually there.

Brother Of Jerry Wrote:
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> If you used Quit Mormon, their letter to LDS Inc
> should say that all communication between you and
> LDS Inc should be through them.
>
> If that is what it says (check), you will need
> proof of who from LDS inc is at your door. A cell
> phone photo should do, but that means you will
> need to answer the door and photograph them.
>
> Is it possible that it was some of your family,
> and not LDS officials at your door. The "contact
> the law office" thing would not apply to them.
> That's why you would need proof of who was
> actually there.

My family doesn't pound on my door like the fire brigade. Only mormon officials have done that over the years.

BTW, I think hiding in the house, changing your phone number, etc, is a huge waste of time and energy, your's and theirs.

Just answer the door, tell them you've resigned, and send them on their way. You do not need to respond to anything they say, and if they keep talking after you've indicated the conversation is over ( such as telling them "good bye, please leave"), shut the door in their face. The entire event should take well under a minute. Just solve the problem, don't hide. This is an argument you can't possibly lose. You hold all the cards.



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Brother Of Jerry Wrote:
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> BTW, I think hiding in the house, changing your
> phone number, etc, is a huge waste of time and
> energy, your's and theirs.
>
> Just answer the door, tell them you've resigned,
> and send them on their way. You do not need to
> respond to anything they say, and if they keep
> talking after you've indicated the conversation is
> over ( such as telling them "good bye, please
> leave"), shut the door in their face. The entire
> event should take well under a minute. Just solve
> the problem, don't hide. This is an argument you
> can't possibly lose. You hold all the cards.

You ever tried to tell the mormons to leave you the f#ck alone in person? They don't get it and they don't listen. They really don't get it.

F#ck, this situation is f#cked. Now i know why people hang themselves in the basketball court. Would my father kill me over this? It's very possible. I thought that hosing story was just a legend haha.

Yeah? It worked for us. Now look at this statement, Adam:

"They don't get it and they don't listen. They really don't get it."

Recognize yourself in here? Many people have given you good advice and tried to help you. Yet, you're still having the same issues. Maybe it's because you're not getting it or listening. Possible?

StillAnon Wrote:
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> Yeah? It worked for us. Now look at this
> statement, Adam:
>
> "They don't get it and they don't listen. They
> really don't get it."
>
> Recognize yourself in here? Many people have given
> you good advice and tried to help you. Yet, you're
> still having the same issues. Maybe it's because
> you're not getting it or listening. Possible?

What do you mean it worked for us. You never resigned. You are a self admitted nevermo i don't feel like being f#cked with right now.

Shout from behind the door that they can leave their name and address in your letter box and that you will visit them asap.

Then go pound on their door the next day at 2:30am. If they point out the early hour, just say "I thought you wanted to speak to me urgently?"

Next step is that they will love bomb you to get you back :) nice miss you notes and cookies and the door. We got some wonderful banana bread from RS president when we resigned. We ate and I talked to her and the phone about polyandry she did not know about it who knows maybe she found out that JS was practicing polyandry after she and some time to research. JS president is very smart and told me not to believe everything that is online. Well I e-mailed her the church essays and she never e-mailed me back that was it. I see her at school every day as our kids attend the same school. I see RS president at drop off and at pick up. From time to time we talk about kids and things like that.
Learning curve Mormon and ex Mormon can get along.

subeamnotlogedin Wrote:
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> Next step is that they will love bomb you to get
> you back :) nice miss you notes and cookies and
> the door. We got some wonderful banana bread from
> RS president when we resigned. We ate and I talked
> to her and the phone about polyandry she did not
> know about it who knows maybe she found out that
> JS was practicing polyandry after she and some
> time to research. JS president is very smart and
> told me not to believe everything that is online.
> Well I e-mailed her the church essays and she
> never e-mailed me back that was it. I see her at
> school every day as our kids attend the same
> school. I see RS president at drop off and at pick
> up. From time to time we talk about kids and
> things like that.
> Learning curve Mormon and ex Mormon can get along.

First step, pound on the door all f#cking day like they want to kill you. Next step, cookies and love bombing. Haha jesus christ these people are crazier than i am.

They don't take no for an answer? Or have you not told them you resigned to go away and never come back? How many times will they keep coming back if you keep telling them not interested? Have you spoken to them at all, or just don't answer the door? You probably need to answer at least once to say you are done.

Nottelling Wrote:
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> They don't take no for an answer? Or have you not
> told them you resigned to go away and never come
> back? How many times will they keep coming back
> if you keep telling them not interested? Have you
> spoken to them at all, or just don't answer the
> door? You probably need to answer at least once
> to say you are done.

I am not ready to get in a long talking match with them. I got neck surgery 2 weeks ago and they cut through the front of my neck so it hurts to talk. Any mormon could beat me in a talking match right now and walk all over me.

You keep explaining why this is an insoluble problem because Mormons won't listen and blah blah blah.

They don't have to listen. Tell them you resigned and shut the door. No listening on their part required.

All those of us who have resigned have solved this problem. It wasn't that big a deal. This is doable. We've been there, done that. One of the major points of RFM is that you get to talk to people who have already faced the problems you are dealing with.

Seriously, just answer the door and tell them you have resigned. It will take a fraction of a minute.

Or, call the bishop, and tell him you have resigned. That should keep them away from your door.

It sometimes solves the problem.

This young man has now resigned. Check the thread that tells about it.

Carping about resigning when it's been done is a waste of your time and his.

Resigning does not solve the problem of the bishop contacting a person to verify their resignation. That is the problem Badassadam1 is dealing with and it is the problem I addressed.

That's an unfounded assumption.

Brother Of Jerry Wrote:
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> You keep explaining why this is an insoluble
> problem because Mormons won't listen and blah blah
> blah.
>
> They don't have to listen. Tell them you resigned
> and shut the door. No listening on their part
> required.
>
> All those of us who have resigned have solved this
> problem. It wasn't that big a deal. This is
> doable. We've been there, done that. One of the
> major points of RFM is that you get to talk to
> people who have already faced the problems you are
> dealing with.
>
> Seriously, just answer the door and tell them you
> have resigned. It will take a fraction of a
> minute.
>
> Or, call the bishop, and tell him you have
> resigned. That should keep them away from your
> door.

Well its a big deal to me even if it isn't for others. I don't have any real support. Anyone that has been born in this and can resign with no problem after 34 years i commend them and i don't believe them. You don't have a cut throat father that was probably one of the people pounding on my door wanting to kill me probably. Mormons don't live in the real world and do not play by the real world's rules. This religion is everything to my father and i am his only son, f#ck i almost wish it was a true religion and i could be the bad guy like i always am. I don't even know why i post on here to be honest other than the bard recommended it, it's almost as unhealthy as the actual religion in a way. I think there are real mormons undercover on here or something. People giving advice like call the police, um yeah its a mormon town i can't win in that direction. F#ck i will be fine, stillanon is right i should be taking action and beating the sh#t out of these people instead of whining, f#ck whining when you can actually cause pain right? What comes around goes around, they laid hands on me so i am aloud to do the same. Thanks stillanon i should be taking a violent course instead of the whining course. All of them deserve it in my eyes and many others eyes. I have thought it through i have the right to defend my home to get peace. Whats fair is fair is fair. Stillanon the brave one on the internet that forces people to do crazy acts by saying just the right thing to provoke the badass. I am pretty comfortable behind physical bars, i hate this world anyways.

For whatever reasons we don't like mormons pounding on our doors. Nothing wrong with us for hating this afront.

Others have their own problems and they don't post them, as if nothing bothers them because they're perfect.

Well, they're not perfect. None of us need to be perfect because we are no longer mormons.

Cheryl Wrote:
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> For whatever reasons we don't like mormons
> pounding on our doors. Nothing wrong with us for
> hating this afront.
>
> Others have their own problems and they don't post
> them, as if nothing bothers them because they're
> perfect.
>
> Well, they're not perfect. None of us need to be
> perfect because we are no longer mormons.

Yes we both really hate mormons pounding on our doors you got that right. Everybody acts like they are so d@mn perfect but my counselor and i both know that everyone on this planet needs help. A lot of people for whatever reason think they are a normal person but there really is no such thing. I don't care if other people think they are above me in sanity and intellect, it's a delusion of theirs. I am getting better while people say to seek help, i do get help every d@mn week. Most people don't get their sanity evaluated every week but i actually do. I can actually evaluate others now because i have been evaluated so much. Anybody that leaves mormonism needs tons of help i dont care what anybody says especially if they were born in it. That sh#t is ingrained in you and you are not even close to being normal and people in the real world WILL hate you and i was warned about that. And i am a hated person by normal people outside of the cult that is for d@mn sure. I have trolls flying all over me like the bard did on his videos. But he never quit and i probably won't either. Just me being alive pisses people off and that alone kind of keeps me going. Both mormon and non-mormon alike do not like me but i was warned and prepped for this, to be hated by both sides. This is not something i was not warned about.

let them pound away, because you are not answering the door. they are envious that you can enjoy a superbowl. don't EVER if you see suits, ties and or dresses or skirts. I don't. it has saved me from any confrintation

Stay strong, yes that time will pass too. They are religious sells people and once they know that they can't sell their religion to you they will move on to someone else. Since you can't talk after your surgery I would recommend do not open the door and wait it out my guess it they will hunt you down for another 2 weeks or so and than they will give up. I remember not wanting to go to Walmart for a while because I did not want to see lds members from my old ward. So I went shopping to kroger and I saw them there too lol. Hang in there it will get easier over time.

I’m wondering if you can get a restraining order, or equivalent in this situation. You told them no, to stay away , but they keep coming. I know it’ll be hard to do that in a LDS community, but not everyone is LDS there( I hope not).Too bad there’s no cheap gated community around there, but if you’re in LDS land, that won’t work because you’ll have neighbours in the church .
Too bad you’re trapped in a Mormon area.
It must be terrible to be born and raised in the church, forced to go to meetings and church events, and try to get away from it, and they still won’t leave you alone.
That’s what I thought a restraining order would help with ( there has to be something in the same category of one that would fit your situation)

An official court order is harder to arrange and it involves court costs and is best done with a lawyer's help.

Anyone can go to the police and file a complaint then send a copy to the bishop saying that further contact will be considered trespassing and harassment.

The police chief where I live very kindly phoned the bish, the MP and the SP. He told them to keep mormons off my property. He also sent a patrol car to the bishops house to explain a letter he sent detailing his orders.

None of this cost me a cent. I think just the written complaint going to the bish might have been enough. That's what I'd suggest if someone is willing to go to the trouble. But getting over surgery makes this difficult for adam.

Cheryl Wrote:
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> An official court order is harder to arrange and
> it involves court costs and is best done with a
> lawyer's help.
>
> Anyone can go to the police and file a complaint
> then send a copy to the bishop saying that further
> contact will be considered trespassing and
> harassment.
>
> The police chief where I live very kindly phoned
> the bish, the MP and the SP. He told them to keep
> mormons off my property. He also sent a patrol car
> to the bishops house to explain a letter he sent
> detailing his orders.
>
> None of this cost me a cent. I think just the
> written complaint going to the bish might have
> been enough. That's what I'd suggest if someone is
> willing to go to the trouble. But getting over
> surgery makes this difficult for adam.

Yes the recovering from surgery does make things difficult right now that is for sure. But your advice will be useful to me in the future of getting restraining orders and doing things i had no clue that i could even do, mormonism makes you feel like you have no power against these leaders, they are abusive men that use the god card very well since i was young basically. I have never known how to beat these guys without violence until recently. Sounds like you went to the extremes and i think i need to as well, i am getting a good custom sign made right now and they will call me when it's done. The first thing it says in big letters is DO NOT KNOCK. Hopefully that helps, i never feel comfortable or safe in my home knowing the door could be pounded on at any second. I know i am not aloud to be violent, oh its a great travesty in the eyes of everyone if someone like me fights back but they are aloud to do whatever the f#ck they want with society or at least this town's society approving their actions like it's god's. This isn't god's will that is for d@mn sure. This is like the devil's will and i told my counselor yesterday that they literally are worse than the devil to me because they are physical and can pound the sh#t out of your door all day. The devil does not pound the sh#t out of my door all door. I am going to the catholics today to see if they can help me with rent this month, they seem more human than mormons from the few interchanges i have had. Thanks cheryl you definitely understand. I know where the courthouse is, do i just go there to get a restraining order?