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Posted by: What_Happens_In_Vegas? ( )
Date: February 12, 2018 10:46AM

I just read that Marriott is opening a new hotel on the Vegas strip:

I thought Mormons didn't support gambling. Is Bill Marriott going to a Court of Love soon?

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Posted by: Devoted Exmo ( )
Date: February 12, 2018 11:03AM

They bought a distressed casino on the north end of the strip. Carl Icahn flipped it and did well. Good luck to the Marriott's. It's not going to be easy.

BTW, Marriott is not mormon owned. They haven't been for decades. There is a Marriott casino here in Vegas already, in Summerlin.

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Posted by: What_Happens_In_Vegas? ( )
Date: February 12, 2018 11:11AM

What do you mean they're not Mormon owned? Why else would they put a BoM in their nightstands?

I've been boycotting Marriott ever since Prop 8 happened, for exactly that reason. Don't wanna give any hotel tithing to TSCC.

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Posted by: Devoted Exmo ( )
Date: February 12, 2018 11:34AM

Marriott Hotels are an international conglomerate. Here are all the brands owned by Marriott:

Classic Luxury

JW Marriott
St. Regis

Distinctive Luxury

Bulgari Hotels & Resorts
Edition Hotels
The Luxury Collection
W Hotels

Classic Premium

Delta Hotels
Marriott (Flagship Brand of Marriott International)
Marriott Vacation Club (MVC)

Distinctive Premium

Autograph Collection
Design Hotels
Gaylord Hotels
Le Méridien
Renaissance Hotels
Tribute Portfolio
Westin Hotels & Resorts
Classic Select
Courtyard by Marriott
Fairfield Inn by Marriott
Four Points by Sheraton
Protea Hotels by Marriott
SpringHill Suites by Marriott

Distinctive Select

Moxy Wien-Schwechat
AC Hotels
Aloft Hotels
Moxy Hotels

Classic Longer Stays
Marriott Executive Apartments
Residence Inn by Marriott
TownePlace Suites by Marriott

Distinctive Longer Stays


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Posted by: What_Happens_In_Vegas? ( )
Date: February 12, 2018 12:46PM

But they're still owned by the Mormons. You will not convince me otherwise.

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Posted by: slskipper ( )
Date: February 13, 2018 09:24AM

No, they are not. The owners are members of the LDS church. The LDS church does not own the properties.

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Posted by: Bill Marriott ( )
Date: February 13, 2018 11:12AM

What_Happens_In_Vegas? Wrote:
> But they're still owned by the Mormons. You will
> not convince me otherwise.

Ah yes, yet another highly scientifically trained, deeply critical thinker that RfM is so famous for throughout the Internet.

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Posted by: alsd ( )
Date: February 13, 2018 12:46PM

What_Happens_In_Vegas? Wrote:
> But they're still owned by the Mormons. You will
> not convince me otherwise.

They are a publicly traded corporation, which is 25% owned by the Marriott family, which is LDS. Bill Marriott is the Executive Chairman. Arne Sorenson is the current CEO. I think someone pointed out on here that he is not LDS. Not sure of his religious affiliation, but he did his undergraduate studies at a Lutheran university and he is a registered Democrat.

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Posted by: StillAnon ( )
Date: February 12, 2018 11:10AM

I stayed at the Downtown Marriott in Prague in 2010. They have a casino on the lobby level. Marriott is all about profits, just like the church. Marriott was the biggest supplier of hotel porn. They have mini bars. Gambling isn't against the WoW- like it matters.

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Posted by: Backseater ( )
Date: February 13, 2018 08:02AM

Yes, that's the former Fontainebleau that's been sitting vacant for years, not mentioned in the OP's reference link. There's still some question whether it will have a casino.

Nearby, the SLS (former Sahara) is struggling, the former Rivera is a parking lot, and the oriental-themed Lucky Dragon has just closed. The neighborhood is like a demilitarized zone.

Best wishes to all concerned, but I agree it won't be easy.

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: February 13, 2018 05:14PM

Marriott is still wholly owned or at least ran by the Marriott family. If the Marriotts are partial owners of the corporation, they would be among the primary shareholders, and are the CEO's of Marriott still.

(NASDAQ: MAR) is an American multinational diversified hospitality company that manages and franchises a broad portfolio of hotels and related lodging facilities. Founded by J. Willard Marriott, the company is now led by his son, Executive Chairman Bill Marriott, and President and Chief Executive Officer Arne Sorenson.
Marriott International - Wikipedia

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Posted by: Devoted Exmo ( )
Date: February 13, 2018 05:20PM

Per your link, it says the Marriott family owns 25% of the company. How is that "wholly owned"?

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: February 13, 2018 07:30PM

If they're CEO's, such as the president of the company is, then he owns controlling shares in the stock, and sits on the board as president, that is an inordinate amount of control by the family to this day - if the remaining 75% are fractured shares. Who has the controlling shares has control over the company. The decision making buck begins and ends with the president and chief CEO of the company, Mr. Marriott, Jr. He would have the largest say in the company.

It's a huge operation. What began as a mom and pop store in 1927 is a conglomerate now. Still, until he sells off his remaining interest and controlling shares, steps down and retires (or is replaced with another Marriott to take over as president and chief CEO,) that's an enormous amount of influence he still brokers as a Marriott. 25% of a corporation the size of Marriott is a controlling share ie, stake in the company. That's what I mean by influence.

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Posted by: baura ( )
Date: February 13, 2018 07:52PM

The Marriotts can't make money showing cable'd porn on their in-
room TV's any more because of the internet. Bill Marriott
explained it all in an interview about a decade ago. He said
they were phasing out the in-room porn gradually over the next
three years because it's no longer profitable . . . oh, and also
because it's wrong.

I pointed out the interview to my wife and told her that I was
going to stop cheating on her gradually over the next three years
because it was getting more difficult for me to pick up chicks.

Anyway, casino gambling hasn't been ruined by the internet so the
Marriotts are fine with sponsoring it. And after you've lost
your child's college tuition in the down-stairs casino, you can
go back to your room and read the Book of Mormon they've
provided for you.

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Posted by: T-Bone ( )
Date: February 13, 2018 09:01PM

Why not? They have porn in their hotels.


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Posted by: Jimbo ( )
Date: February 13, 2018 09:53PM

Marriott is a large corporation that DOES NOT in anyway discriminate against gays people or anyone else for that matter . I have friends and family that work for Marriott and all say it is a great company to work for. Bill Marriott did not donate a dime on prop 8 . Some of folks here need to get your facts straight . Why not stay at a Marriott owned property when they are a company that is very much an equal opportunity employer .

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Posted by: caffiend ( )
Date: February 13, 2018 10:39PM

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: February 13, 2018 10:49PM

Does that make you a backseat driver?

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Posted by: Hockeyrat ( )
Date: February 14, 2018 02:34PM

What’s the present viewpoint of the church on playing the lottery? I vaguely remember it from the 80s. I can’t remember if they were against it totally ,or if they just didn’t except tithing money from the lottery. I can’t remember now if they considered it gambling, but I do remember something negative about the church and the lottery.
Seems hard to believe they would actually turn down money from anything. I don’t know anyone stupid enough to actually report it anyway ,if the church didn’t know about it.
(I wouldn’t even tell them my true salary ,if they didn’t know.)

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: February 15, 2018 11:13AM

Because it is considered gambling, it is treated as sinful wasteful spending.

There was a video the church prepared about the lottery in the 1980's or 90's I watched at church about the evils of playing the lottery, and why LDS shouldn't dabble in it. An example it used was an elderly man who played his life savings on one drawing, believing that increased his odds so much he had to win it big. Then he lost everything.

Lotteries are played primarily by poor, working class, and middle class people. The ones who can least afford to play are those who are drawn to it like a fly to the honey strip.

It's a regressive tax on us "wasteful, sinful spenders." ;-)

I've known good Mormon TBM couples who play the slots in Vegas and at casinos. I'm willing to bet there are as many who play the lottery where it's legal however discreetly. One minister who preached from the pulpit not to play lotto, his own wife won $5 million in an Illinois lottery. He didn't turn it down lol.

Only a fool would do that. :-)

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/15/2018 11:13AM by Amyjo.

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Posted by: Jimbo ( )
Date: February 15, 2018 06:39PM

The LDS Church also opposed pari mutual betting for horse racing in the late 90's .Goodness forbid people would go to the track that was being proposed in the South Jordan area.Might take away time that could be spent in the never ending Mormon meeting schedule and double goodness forbid not raking in more tithing dollars.In Utah what the Mormon Church wants the Mormon Chuch gets . So go to Nevada, Wyoming or some other state for a day at the track ,a powerball ticket, booze that isn't heavily taxed but not here in Gods own little Utah. I very much enjoy my job here and need more years in the state retirement system but 3 seconds after I retire in about six years I am getting the hell out the Beehive State

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