Mother in an effort to gain clarification about porn issue.

All 3. one room.

First question, "why do men who are active leave Church"?

Various answers.

"Lost spirit" was primary response.

Why do men lose spirit?

Only answer.

Looking at things they shouldn't.

I say like...anti Mormon stuff.

Older sister. Yes that but I think porn causes loss of spirit.

I ask. Is the prophet the prophet for everyone in the whole world?

They didn't understand.

I rephrased.

Is Russell Nelson the only person on Earth that is allowed to speak to god on everyone else's behalf?

They weren't sure what I meant.

One is a current young women's leader.

What does porn do?

Loss of spirit, leads to self abuse and sometimes homosexuality, and eventually rape or statutory rape...stuff like that.

So everyone who looks at porn will leave Church and will eventually become gay or commit crimes because of porn watching?

Do you think most men in church look at porn?

Not ones that hold callings.

Did Joseph smith marry women other than Emma?

Yes but widows who lost husband's who were murdered by mobs.

Did anyone leave Church back than because he had more than one wife?

There was apostasy.

Did porn exist in Smith's time.

Probably.

I'm sure.

Last question...


Are you girls clueless?

The number one ingredient in a testimony is ignorance. In fact, the more you have the stronger the testimony.

Sounds easy, but in the Information Age staying that ignorant actually requires Herculean mental gymnastics since their blinders no longer are as effective as they once were. Facts are whirling around everywhere now like a tornado and hit you in the face. What's a Mormon to do?

It takes a lot of faith to maintain that level of ignorance.

Yup ! Total waste of time. *LOL*

Haha...thanks for the chuckle...had an old uncle with old timers or something...loved to discuss deep doctrine in his younger days and that never changed...hs daughter would sit him in front of a big mirror and he'd blaze away on all kinds of topics...to himself...when his daughter came in to get him shed say...did you have a nice chat with that fellow...he'd usually mumble...that was the dumbest son of a bitch I ever talked to...couldn't get a word out of him....

Simple minded is the phase that comes to mind.

Number one reason why people lose their testimony....internet

"There's none so deaf as those who will not hear." Old Proverb