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Posted by: carameldreams ( )
Date: May 14, 2018 08:49AM

"Senate candidate Mitt Romney of Utah says a prominent Baptist minister shouldn’t be giving the prayer that opens the U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem because he’s a “religious bigot.”

In a tweet Sunday night, the former Massachusetts governor and 2012 Republican presidential nominee criticized Dallas minister Robert Jeffress for his remarks about Jews, Mormons and Islam.

Romney said, “Robert Jeffress says ‘you can’t be saved by being a Jew,’ and ‘Mormonism is a heresy from the pit of hell.’ He’s said the same about Islam.”

The liberal group Media Matters reports on its website that Jeffress made the remarks cited by Romney in a 2011 speech at the conservative Values Voter Summit.

Jeffress responded in a tweet of his own by defending his view that “salvation is through faith in Christ alone.”

“Historic Christianity has taught for 2,000 years that salvation is through faith in Christ alone. The fact that I, along with tens of millions of evangelical Christians around the world, continue to espouse that belief, is neither bigoted nor newsworthy,” Jeffress said in the tweet."

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Posted by: Happy_Heretic ( )
Date: May 14, 2018 09:01AM

Romney is correct. Jeffress is a bigot. IF Jeffress was right, wouldn't all Christians agree with him? They don't.

HH =)

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: May 14, 2018 09:02AM

I can't imagine why Trump would've asked Jeffress given his daughter Ivanka and SIL Jared are observant, Orthodox Jews.

It's blasphemous to invite a known bigot who espouses so much hatred and vitriol toward others not of his religious creed. Especially given the context in which the prayer is set to take place.

Is it Armageddon he wants to usher in? Or the peace of Jerusalem?

I venture it isn't the latter.

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Posted by: notmonotloggedin ( )
Date: May 14, 2018 09:31AM

Mormons have, of course and of necessity, redefined terms the meaning of which had been understood by Christians for centuries.

Mormons give their own definition of salvation which differs from the Christian. In that way, Mormons are able to say that those who go to "the lowest heaven" are saved. But the Christian definition of being saved is to dwell with God throughout all eternity; heaven is not divided up into levels. The Mormon definition of salvation is not salvation at all to a Christian.

Indeed, Mormons believe that only Mormons will achieve the celestial kingdom. Mitt is a hypocrite.

Indeed, for centuries, Christianity has taught that salvation is gained through Christ alone. Period.

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Posted by: carameldreams ( )
Date: May 14, 2018 11:46AM

This is very well put.

By definition, and as you say, out of necessity, Mormons have claimed the 'one, true church' and the revelation(s) given to JS and subsequent prophets as their guide.

Mitt seems tone deaf (again). If he wants so badly to belong in the White House, he needs to learn how to blend in more.

Stones, glass houses (or home in La Jolla), pots, kettles....

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Posted by: Jimbo ( )
Date: May 15, 2018 10:15PM

trump like most politicians sucks up to his base . part of his base are right wing evangelical .That is why . Since when did DJT care about appearances ?

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Posted by: carameldreams ( )
Date: May 14, 2018 09:16AM

Trump referred to Mitt as 'sour grapes', iirc.

Not sure foreign policy is best left with Javanka. Could be it all turns out wonderfully but so far, not so good.

With such TT's (Trump tweets) as:

"My daughter, Ivanka, is about to give birth to a beautiful Jewish baby"

I don't really vibe with that kind of bragging about someone else's religion and in this context, a by-proxy ownership/affinity with persons of Jewish faith.

Whatever happened to Trump's bff, the Rev. Paula White?

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/14/2018 09:16AM by carameldreams.

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Posted by: weeder ( )
Date: May 14, 2018 09:33AM

Let us remind dim-witted Romney that his church has all sorts of "saving ordinances" -- and ask him which are NECESSARY for exaltation.

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Posted by: ificouldhietokolob ( )
Date: May 14, 2018 09:42AM

Fighting over whose set of fairy-tales is best.

It's disgusting. Screw the lot of 'em.

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Posted by: jthomas ( )
Date: May 14, 2018 09:48AM

Wait, wait, wait a minute.....And what does Mitt's church believe about those that are not members of his church??? What happens to them when they die? Same thing the baptist said?....Yep.

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Posted by: snowball ( )
Date: May 14, 2018 11:35AM

That was my thought exactly.

Since when do Mormons believe you can be saved by being a Baptist? Jew? Muslim? Whatever?

I'll have to let my family know, they'll be so relieved!

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: May 14, 2018 11:44AM

Is Romney going to assign Orrin Hatch to the case ?

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Posted by: ConcernedCitizen 2.0 ( )
Date: May 14, 2018 07:57PM

………Orrin Hack?

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Posted by: BYU Boner ( )
Date: May 14, 2018 11:53AM

I think the pot just called the kettle black!

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Posted by: kizzie ( )
Date: May 14, 2018 12:10PM

Was'nt there something going round a number of years ago,something about a deceased person arrives at the pearly gates,Saint Peter tells the deceased person to come on in,however he must tread softly,the deceased asked why,Saint Peter said tip toe past as the Mormons think they are the only one's here lol

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Posted by: Bamboozled ( )
Date: May 14, 2018 12:20PM

A Mormon calling a Baptist a bigot?


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Posted by: wheredoigonow ( )
Date: May 15, 2018 07:52PM

Neither seems to remember what Christ said that the duties of his followers are. Not that I don't mess up often, but I have not put myself out as a leader.

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