Posted by:
Anon the Great
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Date: September 12, 2018 04:25AM
A poster on the closed thread claims my belief that God created us all, and therefore, we will continue living "saved" in heaven, is not reason. The poster claims that our creation is independent of our being saved in heaven. Such an idea is based on theologians that teach us to reason this irrational way about God. My assumption is reasonable. God creates us for a purpose, and that purpose is not to eternally die.
The assumptions of theologians are not reasonable. Why did God created mortality if we are all going to live forever in heaven without pain or judgment of each other. That is the correct question to ask to believe the most "reasonable" purpose of mortality, and not the questions and answers of Joseph Smith or the theologians. That is the key question to answer for all philosophers.
The answer to this question, if rational, leads us into the rational conclusion that God saves everyone, even Lucifer, because He is His creation.
I am responding to the claim my reasoning skills are lacking, but I didn't plan to write pages and pages of ideas to justify my beliefs. I don't believe it is appropriate in here to "prove" I am right. No one can prove an idea about God. Only God can prove He/She is God. So arguing about God is useless, because I am not God, and I hate quoting the Bible to prove anything. I like to look at ideas and how reasonable they are.
Therefore, my belief is God wants to save anything He/She loves, and if I assume He loves all of us, He will save all of us in heaven. He wants to keep us around in heaven. Those are reasonable assumptions and theories.
I did not intent to go into this long explanation, but the poster attack my reasoning skills. It is not cool to attack anyone's logic, because we are created to be logical. It is the assumptions that are good or bad, not the logic of the human mind, unless we are taught to believe dumb ideas that are irrational. Reason can fix it.
But we as children and young adults believe a leader in power, such as Joseph Smith, and then we believe irrational ideas, based on irrational assumptions, which are beliefs, such as God's physical body creating spirits. How stupid can anyone be? It is an irrational idea. A physical body would create a physical body. The trouble is believing the irrational leader and not reason. The leaders lie to gain power and control, clogging up our minds with irrational garbage. We are supposed to use reason to take out the garbage and use the most reasonable assumptions.
My opinion is we grow when we believe something, whatever it is, based on facts and reason. I don't believe in agnosticism for that reason.