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Posted by: SusieQ#1 ( )
Date: September 12, 2018 03:56PM

The #1 strangest teaching is Kolob in the Pearl of Great Price. (Parody)

My process leaving Mormonism has been sprinkled with a lot of writing, some of it is satire and parody. A few years ago, I decided to look at what is considered revealed, inspired truths specifically about the Book of Abraham and Kolob and see what kind of help Bruce R. McConkie added to the mix. This is a parody Sunday School lesson I wrote on the teachings about Kolob.

Judging from what has been said on the board and what I have heard others say, the average Mormon is likely uninformed and uneducated about Kolob and the revealed teachings. About all they know is that fun hymn: "If You Could Hie to Kolob," [hie- meaning hasten]. (Apparently the plane is leaving at any moment!:-)
Allrighty now: What did you learn in Sunday School about Kolob when studying the Book of Abraham? In case you've forgotten, The Pearl of Great Price is found at the back of The Book of Mormon behind the Doctrine and Covenants in a triple combination, which with the Bible, is considered part of their Standard Works.

I had a little fun with this whole idea of Kolob, the Book of Abraham in The Pearl of Great Price. It's a bit confusing so I decided to try to clear it up. So here are the real teachings from Joseph Smith Jr about Kolob with some help from Bruce R. McConkie in the book: "Mormon Doctrine."(As I understand them, of course!:-)

It is amazing what you can get from an Egyptian Funeral Scroll! :-) Just concentrate hard enough, pray hard enough, have enough faith, and.... here we go!

Book of Abraham Chapter 3
2: "And I saw the STARS that they were very great and that one of them was nearest unto the throne of God; and there were many great ones which were near unto it:

3: And the Lord said unto me: These are the governing ones; and the name of the great one is Kolob, because it is near unto me, for I am the Lord thy God: I have set this one to govern all those which belong to the same order as that upon which thou standest."

Verse 9 says:
"And thus there shall be the reckoning of the time of one planet above another until thou comes nigh unto Kolob, which Kolob is after the reckoning of the Lord's time, which Kolob is set night unto the throne of God, to govern all those planets which belong to the same order as that upon which thou standest."

NOTE it is called a STAR (caps are mine) or is it?

Now note what Bruce R. McConkie says in "Mormon Doctrine" pg. 428. Ya gotta luv this guy! He says:

"Kolob means "the first creation.,"
It is the name of the PLANET (caps mine) "nearest to the celestial, or the residence of God." it is "first in government, the last pertaining to the measurement of time.One day in Kolob is equal to a thousands years according to the measurement of this earth."

Is it my imagination or does Joseph Smith Jr. not know the difference between a STAR and a PLANET and think they are interchangeable? The whole thing is about astronomy ?
Is this Science and Religion of the 1800's merging?
So an Egyptian Funeral Scroll has hidden knowledge from Abraham! That is amazing!

Then it says; Verse 13:
"And he said unto me: This is Shinehah, which is the sun. And he said unto me: Kokob which is STAR, then he said unto me Olea, which is the moon. And he said unto me : Kokaubeam, which signifies stars, or all the great lights, which were in the firmament of heaven."

TEACHER TO CLASS:
OK, boys and girls, from now on, in class we will call the really big STAR, Kolob, the MOON - Olea and the really big flashy STARS: Kokaubeam and the SUN, Shinehah.

Now to help you remember, I have some sound-alike words for you. Remember that that the big STARS sound like: Cocoa-Beans,
and the SUN is very easy because the sun does indeed Shinehah a lota, and the MOON'S name,Olea sounds like "ole" in Spanish which means bravo, and the biggest STAR, Kolob sounds like go - lob. Now here is where it gets tricky. Lob means: to droop heavily (but we won't be going there) or it can mean lout: dull heavy person.

Always remember, boys and girls, that Joseph Smith Jr. was translating this document from what Abraham said to him face to face - or something like that.
Naturally, the prophet Joseph would use words that he knew which would help us understand the special things Abraham wanted us to know.
So if the words sound a little funny, that is why. And, remember to pray to Heavenly Father tonight before go to bed and thank Him for this wonderful special teaching and ask Him to increase your faith to help you understand it.

Verse 16 says:
"if two things exist, and there be one above the other, there shall be greater things above them; therefore Kolob is the greatest of all the Kokaubeam that thou has seen, because it is nearest unto me."

TRANSLATION:
The really big lout, Kolob is the greatest of all the Cocoa Beans.
Okay, lets give Joseph an award for some esoteric hidden teachings here like all kinds of other "teachers" of enlightenment.

You have to admit, this is clever stuff for the times. He managed to throw in, what some would classify now days as "New Age" teachings right into the Book of Abraham!
Time to move the Book of Abraham to the NEW AGE section of the book shelf at the book stores!

Incidentally: Kolob spelled backward is: bolock -- or bollocks in England. I think Joseph Smith JR had the last laugh.

The Official Info is here: https://www.lds.org/topics/translation-and-historicity-of-the-book-of-abraham?lang=eng

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Posted by: anybody ( )
Date: September 13, 2018 05:49AM

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

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Posted by: SusieQ#1 ( )
Date: September 13, 2018 01:54PM

My point, is that it would be a whole new kind of Mormon Sunday School Class, if this part of the Pearl of Great price, was taught in this manner!

It's my view that few members know much about their teaching on Kolob which is one of the biggest divides in Christian type theology. Kolob is considered the place where the Mormon God - Heavenly Father - lives and where all the big stuff happens.

Mormon theology takes a huge step outside the norm of beliefs centered on the need for a Savior, and the teachings of Jesus The Christ, with this kind of teaching. I'm not sure Mormons even know what this is all about.

It's one more reason why Mormonism gets into the bizarre and not something I could accept anymore.

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Posted by: baura ( )
Date: September 13, 2018 04:10PM

A close reading of Abraham 3: 2-3 seems to indicate that the
earth is a "star":

"2 And I saw the STARS, that they were very great, and that one
of them was nearest unto the throne of God; and there were many
great ones which were near unto it;

"3 And the Lord said unto me: These are the governing ones; and
the name of the great one is Kolob, because it is near unto me,
for I am the Lord thy God: I have set this one to govern all
those which belong to the same order AS THAT UPON WHICH THOU
STANDEST." (emphasis added)

Brigham Young called Kolob a planet:

"Retire to your beds early, that you may be refreshed, and arise
early again, and so continue until times and seasons are
changed; or, finally, I say unto you, let the same process be
continued from day to day, until you arrive unto one of the days
of Kolob (where day is 1000 of our years), the PLANET nearest
unto the habitation of the Eternal Father." (proclamation issued
19 Dec. 1851; emphasis added)

https://www.lds.org/ensign/1971/11/proclamation-for-a-day-of-praise-and-thanksgiving-for-the-territory-of-utah?lang=eng&_r=1

John Taylor called Kolob a "planet":

"Thou longed, thou sighed and thou prayed to thy Father in
heaven for the time to arrive when thou couldst come to this
earth, which had fled and fallen from where it was first
organised, near THE PLANET KOLOB." (John Taylor, 29 Aug. 1857,
quoted in "Liahona, Elder's Journal," 7 Mar. 1908, pp. 1001-02;
emphasis added)

http://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/f/773614/11423362/1301195237920/liahona-v5n38.png?token=%2BAwoLwDwrGC%2B3qlX77HiexxNbc4%3D

Apostle Orson Pratt spoke of Kolob as a "world":

"According to this new revelation, there is a certain great
WORLD, called Kolob, placed near one of the celestial kingdoms,
whose diurnal rotation takes place once in a thousand of our
years; and that celestial time was measured by those celestial
beings, by the rotations of Kolob, hence one day with the Lord
was a thousand of our years." (Orson Pratt, JoD, Vol. 16, p.
317; emphasis added)

Star or planet? Who knows?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/13/2018 04:12PM by baura.

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Posted by: SusieQ#1 ( )
Date: September 13, 2018 04:21PM

Many, many years ago, when I examined these statements, and the Pearl of Great Price, I came to the conclusion that these men were not clear about what is a star and what is a planet.

I found it rather humorous. They are trying to describe something that does not exist.

Oh well. That is what makes Mormonism so interesting, the inherent quality in Joseph Smith Jr to get people to see and believe things that are not there. Then have the audacity to claim he translated those nonexistent things! Very clever, actually! It is an amazing skill set!

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