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Posted by: anybody ( )
Date: September 21, 2018 07:34AM

Sorry, Mormons. Life on Earth is way, way, older than just a mere six thousand years. Your ridiculous, made up religion is totally fake. Stop pretending that reality isn't real.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/earliest-known-animal-fossil-dickinsonia_us_5ba404c5e4b069d5f9d14b3b


https://www.newsweek.com/scientists-found-some-oldest-evidence-life-earth-south-africa-1048441



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/21/2018 07:59AM by anybody.

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Posted by: Sad but True ( )
Date: September 21, 2018 08:32AM

The fossils were put there by Lucifer to trick us. Not a troll, not sarcastic.

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Posted by: ificouldhietokolob ( )
Date: September 21, 2018 08:46AM

Not bright, either.

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: September 21, 2018 09:55AM

I hate it when Lucifer tricks me !

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Posted by: Done & Done ( )
Date: September 21, 2018 10:43AM

You got to loosen up Dave. I've been tricked a few times by Lucifer and it was fantastic. He knows some good stuff!

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Posted by: eternal1 ( )
Date: September 21, 2018 11:20AM

I have a very TBM BIL that absolutely believes in young earth creationism. So, I looked at FAIR to see how they were spinning this, and, they seem to be denying a young earth.

"The Doctrine and Covenants Student Manual, (2002) chapter "Section 77 Questions and Answers on the Book of Revelation" states that the seven thousand years "do not include the period of our planet's creation and preparation as a dwelling place for man."

Ok, so they are weaseling on the age of the earth, but, I don't quite understand how they are getting over the no death before Adam thing.

"The LDS Bible Dictionary states that, "Latter-day revelation teaches that there was no death on this earth before the Fall of Adam. Indeed, death entered the world as a direct result of the Fall (2 Ne. 2:22; Moses 6:48)."

I remember being taught, back in the 70's, a definite young earth creation with no death (including animals) before Adam. Seems they are trying to backtrack, weasel and generally obfuscate it now by saying:

"There is no official doctrine on the matter, and members in good standing have held both positions."

Reminds me of "We have always been at war with Eastasia"



https://www.fairmormon.org/answers/Mormonism_and_science/Age_of_the_Earth

https://www.fairmormon.org/answers/Mormonism_and_science/Death_before_the_Fall

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Posted by: babyloncansuckit ( )
Date: September 21, 2018 11:23AM

How did they get access to the church office building?

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Posted by: baura ( )
Date: September 21, 2018 01:28PM

Iseewhatyoudidthere

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Posted by: Chicken N. Backpacks ( )
Date: September 21, 2018 11:54AM

Slightly OT, but how about a Lamanite puppy?

Not really, and 50,000 years is a lot less than 540 mya, but finding this and still no Nephite artifacts?

https://nypost.com/2018/09/17/mummified-ice-age-wolf-pup-and-caribou-dug-up-in-canada/

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Posted by: anono this week ( )
Date: September 21, 2018 02:21PM

I'm sure they know what they are talking as every academian always knows everything, but the question arises in my mind:
how can they be so sure it's verifiably 540 million years old? Because some computer program spits out some number.
What if their formulas parameters are biased in slightest degree? It could mean the margin of error could be as high as 99.9%?
Were they there when it was first made?

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: September 21, 2018 11:32PM

That's easy enough. Here, do some reading and studying and find out how they determine ancient dates. There are plenty of additional references in this article:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth

And to those whose objection is "but science keeps changing its estimates".

That's called "learning more about the subject". It is a good thing. There are two radically different types of change. One is an incremental tweaking of existing knowledge. That is almost always what happens in science.

Another meaning of change is to completely abandon an existing hypothesis and start over. That rarely happens in science, but it does happen now and again. The hypothesis that the universe was filled with "aether" which was needed to transmit electrical signals was abandoned in the late 1800s when it was discovered that the speed of light appeared constant no matter how fast the source or the observer were moving. That caused some pretty fundamental revisions in physics, though most everyday physics was pretty much unchanged.

Neither type of change proves that scientists don't know what they are talking about. It shows that science is an effective way to advance knowledge.

Compare to astrology, where nothing needs to change, because it was complete bollocks from the get-go.

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Posted by: SusieQ#1 ( )
Date: September 21, 2018 06:13PM

I'm always curious about how these determinations are made and how they are often changed in the future. The idea of "rewriting history" is not a new one.

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Posted by: koriwhore ( )
Date: September 21, 2018 08:33PM

anybody Wrote:
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> Sorry, Mormons. Life on Earth is way, way, older
> than just a mere six thousand years. Your
> ridiculous, made up religion is totally fake. Stop
> pretending that reality isn't real.
>
> https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/earliest-know
> n-animal-fossil-dickinsonia_us_5ba404c5e4b069d5f9d
> 14b3b
>
>
> https://www.newsweek.com/scientists-found-some-old
> est-evidence-life-earth-south-africa-1048441

Trilobites are 521 million yrs old.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trilobite

The 5 time world champion Appocalypse survivor is 530million yrs old.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tardigrade

And viruses and bacteria share a common Ancestor from 3.4 billion yrs ago.
https://cosmosmagazine.com/biology/what-came-first-cells-or-viruses



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/21/2018 08:33PM by koriwhore.

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Posted by: elderpopejoy ( )
Date: September 21, 2018 10:57PM

So some anthropological quack finds the tip of a 4,000 yr. old human or whatever finger and crows "These people loved to dance!." dave brenner

That so-called anthro-science is close to total science fiction.

And that landing on the moon was shot on tape.

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: September 21, 2018 11:37PM

I'm really not sure what point you are trying to make, but it feels awfully anti-intellectual, and there is probably tin foil involved.

Which of course brings up the question: why is tin foil made of aluminum????

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Posted by: BYU Boner ( )
Date: September 21, 2018 11:51PM

They’re future apostles, give ‘em a few more years.

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Posted by: Wally Prince ( )
Date: September 22, 2018 05:04AM

At first, I misread the title of your post. I thought it said: "Verified As Ancient Provo Animals" and I was thinking, "yeah, I some of those guys in the Provo temple, but they couldn't have been that old...maybe in the ballpark, but...."

But then I read it again, and it made more sense.

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