Date: October 08, 2018 11:47AM
Apparently they own the trademark to it, so how strange is that?!?!?! (From wiki)
In some countries, Mormon and some phrases including the term are registered trademarks owned by Intellectual Reserve, a holding company for the LDS Church's intellectual property. In the United States, the LDS Church has applied for a trademark on Mormon as applied to religious services; however, the United States Patent and Trademark Office rejected the application, stating that the term Mormon was too generic, and is popularly understood as referring to a particular kind of church, similar to Presbyterian or Methodist, rather than a service mark. The application was abandoned as of August 22, 2007. In all, Intellectual Reserve owns more than 60 trademarks related to the term Mormon.
Date: October 08, 2018 12:17PM
Done & Done Wrote:
> What is offensive with your colleague's comment is
> his comparison of the "N" word to the "M" word.
> The "N" word is one of the ugliest words ever to
> have come into being. It cuts. Claiming the
> word Mormon is on par with that is a slap in the
> face to African Americans everywhere I would say.
> When are the Mormon LDS going to realize that the
> "branding" is just lipstick on a pig?
Anything to make it look like they are being "persecuted" or "discriminated against." It's like, "Look how special/peculiar we are compared to the world!"
And yes, it's quite offensive for your work colleague to say that calling someone a "Mormon" is the equivalent to using the "N-word" which is an ugly, racist word used to make slaves feel inhuman. Still used in that way today. I'm curious as to how many Mormons had used that word up until they had members of African descent before the so-called priesthood ban?
If the term "Mormon" is so offensive, has TSCC thought of how offensive it might be to through a 40th anniversary celebration of the so-called "ban" being "lifted"? Bringing up those many years of racism or the whole "You people can join us, but that's all you're getting. You can't have the priesthood or temple privileges because...well, you're black. Basically, you're cursed." I can go on.
I'm really trying to understand how Mormon became so offensive considering that it is the name of one of the BOM prophets, and that that name is in the book that they consider to be the keystone of their religion. Or is it just offensive because the almighty president Nelson said it was?
And I feel the same way about the so-called rebranding of TSCC. And it's the same way I feel about my abusive ex: You can put a pig in an expensive suit, but it still is, looks like and smells like a pig, and still has pig-like qualities. Changing the name isn't going to change the fact that TSCC's "meat" is tainted.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/08/2018 12:26PM by severedpuppetstrings.
Date: October 08, 2018 06:05PM
That was my first thought too, D&D. How incredibly offensive that comment is, insensitive, ignorant.
What is it about the name Mormon that became so offensive and why did it turn negative seemingly overnight?
When outsiders (including exmos) use that word are they intending it as a slur?
Really it's just the name by which they've always referred to themselves and, as noted, their institutions.
Very, amazingly, familiarly weird.
Another fine mess Nelson has got them into. This is really the biggest issue in their tiny little world? Picayune ain't in it.
Date: October 08, 2018 12:53PM
Right--I will savor using the word "Mormon" often!
We have the right to use whatever name we want--and so does the press. We choose to not use racial slurs, because these are extremely offensive to everyone. There's no comparison with the word "Mormon". Do Mormons offend themselves? They are the polygamists, here. They are the elitists. They are the ones baptizing our dearly departed into their cult.
"Mormon" is a name they chose for themselves, and waved in our faces like a banner of superiority. Like severedpuppetstrings pointed out--there's no comparison with the plight of black-skinned people and Mormons. I resent the Mormons equating their religious persecution to the persecution of slaves, and the persecution of the Jews at the hands of the Nazis. This is deeply offensive on every level!!!!!
It was not persecution; the Mormons were breaking the law!
I had a Mormon correct me, too, and I acted like I was exempt from this (yet another everchanging) Mormon rule. I said, "I don't belong to the Mormon church anymore, and I don't know what's going on with all your changing rules...." I was not angry, just confused, and unwilling to follow any more Mormon rules that don't apply to me at all.
Perhaps timney can keep his/her friendship with that Mormon by not talking about the Mormon church AT ALL. After all, now the name of it is unmentionable! Shhhh! No Mormon talk in the office.
LOL--yes, they did hand this one to us on a platter!
Curse you--you damned--MORMONS!
Date: October 08, 2018 01:48PM
I just watched Nelson's rant about the name. He seemed genuinely pissed that former prophets would have ever promoted the nickname "Mormon" instead of the full name ("EVEN the Church of Cheese and Rice of..."). Does that mean that the church was uninspired when it launched the "I'm a Mormon" campaign? Was God upset when they were using "mormon dot org" as the church's primary outreach website? Did God have a problem with it this whole time, or did he just recently become woke?
When the initial style guide was released, I knew right away that this would be how they would claim persecution for now. With the way information spreads today, they know that they can't HONESTLY claim that their church is actively persecuted anymore. Most people don't really even think about them most days. The people who might have a passing familiarity with them probably know them as Mormons - now they can pretend that name is deeply offensive to them. Forget that they used to call their choir, their newsroom, or have a major PR campaign that actively embraced the nickname - it's offensive and always has been.
They will realize pretty quick that most of us outside their bubble will never use the whole f'ing name. They will always be the Mormons. If they want to pretend that they are offended by it, whatever. This is just a passive aggressive way for white, middle-aged, mostly affluent Americans to thumb their nose at political correctness. "WELL IF GLEN BECK CAN'T SAY THE N-WORD ON TV, YOU CAN'T SAY MORMON!" They will be serious about this for about a year. Then they'll only get serious about it at conference time when Nelson reminds them it's not ok. In a couple years, Nelson will kick the bucket and most people will forget this was ever a thing. Including the Mormons.