the HOA of ziller's exclusive beach-front gated community is proposing a new rule that all home owners are required to submit to random drug tests every year starting 01/01/2019 ~

this is to ensure that this exclusive beach-front gated community is drug-free ~

already there is a lot of opposition with home owners saying they won't submit to any drug test and are even threatening legal action ~

the proposed rule calls for a warning for a first-time positive test and a second positive test is grounds for eviction ~

refusal to submit to a test will be considered the same as testing positive ~

~ ¿ why would any home owner refuse to submit to a random drug test if they are clean and hab nothing to hide ? ~

a home owner would look like a liberal hippy for even protesting this proposed HOA rule and prolly get evicted some other way somehow ~

~ ¿ right ? ~

Next HOA meeting, ask them for proof that the HOA's liability insurance is paid up so that you can be assured of a full treasure pot from which the verdicts that are won against the HOA will be paid.

I don't think CC&Rs can be altered without a vote, and it sure sounds like it would take a rewriting to establish their right to conduct said drug testing.

I'd fricking torch their cabanas...

Torch their cabanas or torch their cannabis?

HOAS are just like the church. External micromanaging control freaks that want your money. So glad I'm not involved in one of those nightmares as well.

Drug tests don't really test whether the person uses drugs, they test if the person knows how to use google.

I've never seen any good come from an HOA.

Many years ago, we had a random in-office drug test. I didn't think anything of it until I was called into the maanager's office and told that I had tested positive for narcotics.

I reminded the manager that the day before, I had left work early, with a migraine. I explained that as always, I had gone to the local ER and was given an injection of some kind of narcotic (I don't remember any more what it was) and Phenergan for vomiting. That's what I always had to do for migraines.

The manager demanded that I bring the discharge note from the ER. That showed clearly why I tested positive. I could tell that the manager was disappointed that I had a valid reason for having a narcotic in my system. We had kind of a hate/hate relationship.

Darn that pesky piece of vellum called the constitution. That sill part about being no searches and not having to incriminate ones self.

Darn all those veterans that died to make sure it was the supreme law if the land.

Wait until the HOA demands no notice access to your home for health and safety inspections oh and no fire arms or dangerous weapons either. They'll search to make sure you're safe.

While their at it. Maybe they'll perform monthly credit checks and background checks to make sure you're the type of people they want living there.

Be sure to be married to your partner too.

Oh and get that monthly ecclesiastical endorsement or get out.

I agree. It's better to object at the initial irrelevant and unreasonable intrusion than to wait until what they're proposing actually impacts you.

Ask them if they test for LDS.

Maybe they can recommend drugs that they like, but I’m pretty sure it’s racially motivated. You could remind the HOA that they could easily be painted with that brush if they tried to enforce it, even if it’s not. Getting slammed in the media for being a bunch of racist crackers will reduce the value of your home and then you’ll have to sue to make up the loss.



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Thank the sun god I have no HOA.

Ziller, it sounds like your community will rightfully shoot that down. But in any event, it may not be legal. Employers have a right to drug test as a condition of employment. In many jurisdictions, landlords have a right to drug test as a condition of offering a rental contract. Some high schools drug test their students as a condition of being eligible for after school activities. But mandatory drug testing for a home owner? I can't see how that will fly. Is the HOA proposing changing the covenants? Because it all goes back to the covenants.

My HOA generally does a good job, but sometimes gets a bit full of itself. When that happens, we have to remind the HOA that we are owners and not renters.



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I have a feeling that Jeff Sessions retired to Florida and is active in his HOA.

babyloncansuckit Wrote:
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> I have a feeling that Jeff Sessions retired to
> Florida and is active in his HOA.

He sure wasn't very active as Attorney General!

To the contrary, Sessions did everything possible within the scope permitted by the constitution--and beyond.



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...in the old days, (20's-30's), if some jackass proposed this type of rule in an Italian neighborhood, for example, in the Bronx or Queens, they would have found him face down in a ditch. Why do we put up with this?.....especially as we are the ones feeding the beast?

..ziller need facepaint, go out at night, find asshat, hurt bad.

no bae ~ thx 4 asking ~


ziller be posting from community conference centre kitchen microwave oven to RfM in order to avoid detection ~


brb ~ this sh!t be getting real ~


brb ~ bunch of dudes saw elderolddog's post ~


in b 4 ~ they try to burn down some bodys cabana ~


brb ~ keeping RfM posted ~


brb ~ brb ~

Ziller, I love you. Thanks for providing excellent entertainment value to my otherwise craptastic day.

In an effort to bring this on-topic...

Is the board stuffed with mormons? 'Cause this sounds like something they would do...

I did a quick google and all I could find was about renting. I did find that in FL state law bars most people from serving on an HOA board if they have a felony conviction. Might want to be sure these people have been checked ;) We had an HOA for 25 years and they really went cray at one point. Forbidding people to put ANYTHING on their windowsills. Nope, sorry Little Charley, you can't put that Christmas candle in the window for Jesus. Well, that was overturned the next month. They only have the power you give them. I do strongly suggest you go to your monthly meetings and perhaps get involved in some way. There are things besides just the board in some places. For instance, I used to walk around with the bug guy every month.

This is easily some of the craziest shit I've ever heard re: HOAs. Drug use, in and of itself, is not a civil matter; it's a criminal matter. Is the HOA trying to become an incorporated town with its own municipal code and law enforcement? Is the HOA receiving a charter from the state to establish a city/town? This is so stupid.

Unless the HOA magically transforms itself into a legit city/town, they *still* can't require mandatory drug testing without probable cause.

The HOA is HAF.



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