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“People were present there at a time when large expanses of North America were covered by massive ice sheets, and big mammals such as mammoths, mastodons, saber-toothed cats, the giant short-faced bear, horses, bison and camels roamed the continent’s Ice Age landscape.”

Including Sid the Sloth. Still no Jaredite artifacts found.

>>“The Cooper’s Ferry site contains the earliest radiocarbon-dated archaeological evidence in the Americas,” said Oregon State University anthropology professor Loren Davis, who led the study published in the journal Science.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meadowcroft_Rockshelter

>>Radiocarbon dating of the site indicated occupancy beginning 16,000 years ago and possibly as early as 19,000 years ago. However, the dates are still controversial.

The article gives Cooper's Ferry dates as around 16,000 years ago.

I'm still waiting for someone to answer the DNA questions raised by the Anzick Clovis child site. That individual belonged to a population proven to be ancestral to all Native Americans in both North and South America, and that date is around 12,000 years ago.

In the meantime, I suggest those who "insist" on earlier dates and the "Coastal Migration Hypothesis" review the temperatures in the North Pacific around the Aleutians and the coast of British Columbia.

Honest, it's mighty cold up there, folks, and it always has been.

Adovasio and Davis might disagree on whose find is earlier but there is one point on which they would concur: that Clovis First is incorrect and that there were pre-Clovis peoples in the Americas.


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> I'm still waiting for someone to answer the DNA
> questions raised by the Anzick Clovis child site.
> That individual belonged to a population proven to
> be ancestral to all Native Americans in both North
> and South America, and that date is around 12,000
> years ago.

We have responded to that red herring several times. First you said that the Anzick child was ancestral to all Native Americans. We proved that was false. Now you say he belonged to a population that was ancestral to all Native Americans. The truth is that he descended from the ancestral population, not that his community was ancestral to all Native Americans. Why is his DNA similar to that of all Native Americans at the time? Because they came from the same founding population, presumably in Beringia. He was not in any way "ancestral to all Native Americans."


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> In the meantime, I suggest those who "insist" on
> earlier dates and the "Coastal Migration
> Hypothesis" review the temperatures in the North
> Pacific around the Aleutians and the coast of
> British Columbia.
>
> Honest, it's mighty cold up there, folks, and it
> always has been.

True. Inuits acknowledge how cold it is living there even as their existence proves that it is entirely possible. It's also very cold at the northern tip of Scandinavia, but lo and behold there are people there as well.

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This is a good read, even if you don't believe their hypothesis

"In the Wake of the Joman"

They don't really endorse the Japanese kayaker idea. They just noted that some of the technology in Northeast Asia may have been transmitted to the Americas, which would make sense if there was significant contact between the groups before, during or after the Beringian period.

What about humans in California 130,000 years ago?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerutti_Mastodon_site