Date: December 01, 2019 03:21AM
Come, Come ye Saints is an iconic Mormon hymn that showcases the Mormon usage of 'saint', meaning the community of Mormon believers."Latter Day Saints" as mentioned in the cult's full name doesn't mean a new cast of fearless martyrs and pure, aescetic miracle working revolutionary theologians, it means Brother and Sister Beckendorfer in all their five kids under eight years old, he's a dentist/she's a mom, have a plate of cookies and the latest Ensign article glory.
If you're interested, search the net for the lyrics, which are a window into what is expected and ideal behavior of the general Mormon flock as modeled by the great and gullible pioneers of old...which is, basically, pray, pay, obey, suffer and possibly die but do it with a happy smile, and do get on with it quickly and quietly, all is well, all is well.
I think they chose to call themselves the Saints because the Quakers had already been calling themselves the Friends for quite a while, so that word was taken, but the cult wanted some form of special identity word to assign themselves to make their separation from other Christian movements just that more distinctively. And since other non-cult people were busy making up names for the Mo's that weren't nearly as complimentary, it had to be an already rather loaded word in society.
Did you know the Saints call non-Mormons "gentiles"? Because they believe they are the true covenant people of God, the "real" Jews, if you will. This doesn't seem to be such a common thing anymore, but was huge back when the cult started calling themselves saints.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 12/01/2019 03:25AM by ptbarnum.
Date: December 01, 2019 06:15AM
Oh, the arrogance!
Mormons have always declared themselves "saints". Indeed, they are the only true followers of God/Christ/The Lord in His "only true church."
Now the self-proclaimed prophet Rusty has dubbed everyone "ministers." Yes, Mormons are ministers now! They never attended any kind of divinity school, or had any formal training, and no therapy training or experience--yet they act as experts in telling the members how to live, how to be happily married, how to raise children, how to manage their time, what to think, how to act, how to dress. Most of the Mormons I know are disasters! No one should follow their lay advice.
Mormons do not love unconditionally, and, in my experience, are not as honest or trustworthy as normal people. They are far from being saints. Or ministers.
Mormons believe in advertising. If they say something is real, and repeat it often enough, it becomes real. It's mass delusion.
There's nothing stopping you and I from putting our hands on each other's head and blessing each other with "saint" status or even "prophet" status (except I'm female). I now proclaim us all to be "ex-saints" and "cult-free". Amen.