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Posted by: michaelshen ( )
Date: December 27, 2019 03:43PM

because although obedience requires someone else to make the decisions for you, it also places the responsibility on the decision maker.

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Posted by: Warrior71783 ( )
Date: December 27, 2019 03:50PM

So everyone takes the easy way out basically.

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Posted by: cl2 ( )
Date: December 27, 2019 04:05PM

mormons blame you. Everything is always your fault. I assume mormon god would also be the same way.

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Posted by: ptbarnum ( )
Date: December 27, 2019 04:51PM

I found being obedient meant accepting having zero power yet taking 100% of the blame.

When Mormons try to pass off their self-responsibility by being obedient they will inevitably find themselves left holding the bag of consequences, but unfortunately they usually don't make the appropriate causal connection. They have been taught to blame themselves first, so they double down on "obedience " and the cycle continues.

It took me years to become skilled at "owning my stuff" because I'd been so indoctrinated by the controllers in my life.

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Posted by: kathleen ( )
Date: December 27, 2019 07:21PM

Nah, not easier.

For me, it was always easier to be defiant.

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Posted by: Warrior71783 ( )
Date: December 28, 2019 12:21AM

Indeed, i felt my best when i stood up to the leaders while i was in the church. I am a naturally clasher or battler. I was not brain dead totally back then.

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Posted by: Lethbridge Reprobate ( )
Date: December 28, 2019 12:44AM

Being obedient is soul destroying.

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Posted by: Beth ( )
Date: December 28, 2019 08:28PM

but free will and independent thinking were crushed by peer pressure.

Tevai - help me out. My limited understanding of Judaism is that it is good to question teachings and ideas.

When I questioned, I was beaten for blasphemy. Good times.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: December 28, 2019 11:08AM

I only appeared to be obedient. Inside, I was masturbating...

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Posted by: Lethbridge Reprobate ( )
Date: December 28, 2019 12:08PM

Me too...lol



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/28/2019 12:24PM by Lethbridge Reprobate.

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Posted by: saucie ( )
Date: December 28, 2019 02:16PM

elderolddog Wrote:
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> I only appeared to be obedient. Inside, I was
> masturbating...


I KNEW IT !!!!!!

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Posted by: Lethbridge Reprobate ( )
Date: December 28, 2019 08:05PM

HEHEHE!

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Posted by: michaelinms ( )
Date: December 28, 2019 01:04PM

your mind.

just go with the flow.

that's why so many stay in the mormon church.

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Posted by: kathleen ( )
Date: December 28, 2019 02:01PM

Never surrender.

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Posted by: Beth ( )
Date: December 28, 2019 08:29PM


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Posted by: thedesertrat1 ( )
Date: December 29, 2019 11:10AM

And you become a part of the slave species of god

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