I am so very sorry if that happened to you. Hope you are doing well now, but this was a very funny comeback line. I lived in Utah and felt suicidal most of the time too (not really...but I hated it with a passion).
And, besides telling them YOU can make it, YOU are enough, and Don't Give up YOU, perhaps along with the hugs say, I'M here for you. I'M proud of you. I'LL always have your back cuz we're in this together.
Oh yeah even better...it is a church of one-up-man-ship, so I am thinking this may very happen in some fashion. I am just we're here to give them these great ideas so that they don't have to pray and fast about how they can be better than their neighbor.
So much competition in Mormondumb...it's stressful being a Mormon. Sheesh..no rest for the righteous indeed!
I don't remember hearing many encouraging words from LDS Inc. while growing up. Instead, the following un-affirming messages were drilled in my brain:
It's better to come back in a coffin from your mission than to quit and return early.
Don't be a liked cupcake!
Pre-marital sex is next to Murder!
Masturbation is evil and leads to homosexuality!
If you have pre-marital sex you won't be worthy of a priesthood holder!
You'll be separated from your family forever if you're not sealed in the temple!
Be ye therefor perfect!
None of those messages are encouraging. The will not give the youth hope, improve their character, make them better human beings or help human kind, and certainly not prevent suicide. LDS Inc. does not focus on making a person feel good about themselves. It imposes impossible standards and sets up the youth for failure without much of a safety net. No wonder so many members take anti-depressants.
The new youth program is focused on being worthy of the temple. That'l make the youth feel good about themselves - constantly being told what they need to do to be worthy.
No wonder people in Utah have to put affirmation signs in their yards. The Mormon youth are not getting the message in church.
There is still so much of the attitude that making it is to keep from being true to yourself as anyone, but especially the gays.
And the part of God won't give you anything you can't handle. I proved that one wrong to myself.
Some of those things that made it ALL fall apart, like my therapist saying we mormonism to its limits and it failed us. I still the gays struggling. The old bishop's son is still going to BYU and there is no doubt in our minds he is gay. My daughter even asked me if I thought he was. He used to come over and talk to my "husband" all the time and was always extremely friendly with me. I worry about him.
We love gay people now! (We just hope they'll change so they won't be a threat to our families---since we were getting bad press from treating them so badly and need to just hope they will feel ashamed and keep out of sight which makes it easier to appear loving.)
Now, where did I store that electroshock machine . . . .?
In a Mormon Institute Fireside I attended, a Mormon Psychologist explained to everyone that being gay is not sinful but acting gay is not acceptable. I asked if it was a sin for gay, same sex, friends to hold hands. Answer: Yes. It is also a sin to be roommates (without sex) with someone of the same sex if you are gay. And, of course, kissing is forbidden. Couldn't he have just said it is tempting fate as tscc says to heterosexual couples rather than making everything sinful?
They can accept you being gay but you can't show it in any way. What a way to live your life if you are gay and LDS.
Affirming someone is fine but is it too much to ask to be loved?
anonandanon Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Affirming someone is fine but is it too much to > ask to be loved?
It is more than that. In Mormonism it is a sin to be you regardless of your sexual orientation. In their garden myth you become like one of their gods knowing good from evil. And instead of choosing a religious ascetic life for yourself are assumed to be one all your life.
"Is it too much to ask to be loved?" Says it all--Like it ought to be said.
Sin is a critical part of religion. Without sin there is no religion. Mormons and many other religions have to find it wherever and however they can. Make it up if you have to. Cling to bigotry if necessary. It's a matter of survival for them because they are nothing without it. Love is irrelevant.
NEVER! Like Socrates tried to persuade the Athenians, the gods determine what is Justice and not humans.
Mormonism has an interesting take on sin. God is bound when you don't sin and do what God wants. No many religions restrict God. What if God didn't want to help/bless/not smite you? Would that be a God sin?
Gold&Green Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Here in a rural Utah area have noticed affirmation > signs popping up all over in yards. ("You can > make it", "You're Enough", "Don't Give Up", etc. > > Does anyone know if this is a new church thing?
BYU Football since they have the "lazy and loathesome" Lamanite coach who has the dark skin so he will not be enticing to White and Delightsome types?