So here we are, a few days away from Valentine's Day and mormons seem to be clueless. They can get excited about don't do this: pornography articles or they can go over to the LDS bookstore and buy a lot of worthless crap.

Isn't love a feeling? Sometimes mixed with spontaneous passion and affection?

-Heck no. This is why mormons are really clueless. It's about a choice. I kid you not!

It's a commitment
It's a promise to be responsible
It's respectable
It's responsive to the needs of others
It's an action
It's a lifetime practice of good choices

Does that sound good to you?

"It's a lifetime practice of good choices"


They tell you what your choices are and if you don't abide by their list, you ain't going to the CK and Jesus is NOT going to sign your yearbook.


But the choices change/evolve, and I've found that curious...

Hahahahaha getting jesus to sign your yearbook. I needed that laugh.

Love? What is love?

Groucho Marx to a man and wife with 13 children. Asked why, the guy says, "I love my wife". Groucho says, "I love my cigar, too, but once in a while I take it out of my mouth".

A woman is only a woman, but a good cigar is a smoke.
Rudyard Kipling

I would say that the whole religion is based on sexuality. It's run by old men who are way too interested in young men's sex drive. It's almost a fetish with them. Nelson has 9 kids, Ballard 10, Packer had 10. They are the alphas, the manly men. It's a form of control.

Now about love (or passion, as used in this thread) the subject is not communicated well by the church

What a crock. I'm one of 10 and my father is so not aggressive or power hungry and neither am I.

Number of kids isn't an indicator of anything other than ones ability to reproduce and/or adopt. Are you kidding me. What gave you this idea?

Even Haddaway and Howard Jones know more about love.

I had a bishop when I was growing up. He stated quite clearly from the pulpit during sacrament meeting that he did not love his wife when he married her. She and their kids were sitting in the front row.

He went on to explain that the leaders of the church said that returned missionaries should get married as soon as possible when they got home and that it didn't matter if they loved the person or not, that any "worth" man and woman could make marriage work. What mattered was getting married in the temple and starting a family.

He, and presumably his wife, took this literally. They met when he got home from his mission, they got married shortly thereafter and had kids pretty quick. He did state that he loves his wife now.

This seemed wrong to me even as a TBM. I simply couldn't believe someone would agree to spend eternity with someone they pretty much just met and hoped they would get along.

I simply couldn't believe someone would agree to spend eternity with someone they pretty much just met and hoped they would get along."

When you're really horny, it can be 'Any port in a storm'.

My BYU bride was the fifth young lady I dated at the Y. She was the least whacked-out of the five. (Which begs the thread, "Why do BYU women think RMs are special?") We got along well enough to just keep seeing each other.

And two months after we'd started dating, when she told her parents, at Christmas break, that we were getting married, I just shrugged my shoulders and remarked to myself, "that was easy!"

Do you know what one of the saddest things in the modern American world is? Shopping for an engagement ring when your parents have you on an allowance.

I still had to wait five full months for sex. I mean Real Sex, not make-believe sex in the shower. But thank ghawd for really big favors!! (can't you just imagine the resultant ribaldry had I said, 'that ghawd for small favors!'?)

Finally Free your post pretty much sums up mormonism from start to finish with all the proper pauses for feigned humility in between.

I've got a large collection of sayings & quotes about love & relationships, if anyone want's a copy, please email me.

also:

everything in Mormonism is superficial, including the ChurchCo version of love.

Talk the Talk,but most don't know how to Walk the Walk, partly because everything in Mormonism is conditional.

the priorities in Mormon culture are centered around respect for authority, not for more subtle ('inner') qualities.



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Mormon love is a weapon. However, unlike a sword that needs to be drawn, Moron love is employed by being withdrawn.

Mormons are into Tough Love---as in, it's tough for them to love.

It must of been love but its over now...

Thank Schrödinger's cat's god for that.

Mormon love is more about fear than actual commitment to another human being.

LDS Inc Marriage is a commitment first to the CHURCH, not your partner. You and your spouse are just chained together as dysfunctional accountability partners.

While I still believe love is a choice of actions, it is also many other wonderful things! Love is friendship, love is compassion and gratitude, love is passion and profound gentleness, love in a form of insanity and love is a drug.

I think good marriages need the whole package of love and lust.
My parents are high school sweethearts and still kiss every morning and call each other "babe". They get on each others nerves and snip at each other too. They are best friends and each of them have their weird charms. Their love is unconditional.

My LDS ex didn't love me once he deemed me "unworthy" in the churches eyes (despite loving him, our family and being utterly devoted..no longer believing in the church gave him the "get out of being nice to RMM card". Love was a reward for a good girl.

That Love was very conditional.

Ive had relationships with love, but no passion. Ive had passion with no love.

The best loving relationships Ive ever had were ones that were platonic and no unrealistic expectations.

Someday, I would like to be given the chance of loving and lusting a best friend. *raises glass to the heavens

RMM

RMM-

Sign me up!

or is that Sing me up, LOL ?



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Mormons in the temple make their marriage vows to the cult, not to each other, and it's a conditional form of love. Premarital sex is seen as such a heinous sin, that Mormons typically marry someone after only a few months of dating so they don't let hormones get in the way. If someone leaves the cult, the believing spouse often divorces them even if they've been faithful and not abusive only because the marriage was based on the cult, not love for each other.

Exactly, U NAILED IT doyle!


The Temple marriage ceremony is very one-sided; the participant promises all sorts of things to ChurchCo, but no (?) promises, at best a vague hope of 'Eternal Life' to the participant by ChurchCo.

No One knows, No One can Count how many times the ''believing/faithful spouse' has used religion / church membership-(lack of) activity - support against the other spouse as a Wedge; ChurchCo generally applauds this.