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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: May 30, 2020 12:51AM

1. People U sometimes will resent You, maybe undercut U...

2. In Mormonism, people, especially family, will debate and/or ignore U

others?

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Posted by: iceman9090 ( )
Date: May 31, 2020 01:14AM

+GNPE:
I don't understand your question.

~~~~iceman9090

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: May 31, 2020 02:41AM

I think (remember actually) that when one family member is telling the truth about Mormonism but homed with tbms..
that often leads to trouble!

is it also true with engineering & other fact-based situations such as accounting, medicine, etc.?

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Posted by: olderelder ( )
Date: May 31, 2020 11:21AM

GNPE Wrote:
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> is it also true with engineering & other
> fact-based situations such as accounting,
> medicine, etc.?


Here's a video on the subject of being hated for telling the truth.

https://youtu.be/0m9E9Ewhack

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Posted by: olderelder ( )
Date: May 31, 2020 11:28AM

And the problem with being WRONG, as Kathryn Schulz says in her book, Being Wrong, is that being wrong feels exactly like being right — because we think we're right. It's not until we learn we're wrong that we feel embarrassed, stupid, unanchored, etc. That's one reason we usually resist learning we're wrong. We don't want to feel those negative things.

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Posted by: jay ( )
Date: June 01, 2020 02:05AM

Why do I love it when I’m wrong? Especially on big things?

Cause then I can change. I can improve. Life can be better. More happiness, more success, more fulfillment . . .

Discovering wrong perceptions, etc is a major rush - riding the 30 foot waves on North Shore in Oahu. IMO, once you figure out all the good that can flow from seeing where you’re wrong, there is no embarrassment. You want to see it. It’s freedom.

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Posted by: bradley ( )
Date: May 31, 2020 11:36AM

Being Mormon is like having a really bossy spouse. Even when they’re wrong, they’re right.

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: June 01, 2020 02:37PM

WELL SAID!!

and,

they trivialize important matters,

exaggerate trivial matters.

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Posted by: lillium ( )
Date: June 01, 2020 03:12PM

Exactly.

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: June 01, 2020 03:28PM

their trump card is their (claimed) Priesthood Authority, EXCEPT when U ask them to use it in a tangible way & get tangible results; In my case I asked them to help heal a 29 yr marriage in which I was faithful, no adultery, no abuse.

My failure? I stopped going to church AND I told them their lies were the reason...

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Posted by: Dorothy ( )
Date: June 02, 2020 11:18AM

You’re always wrong and the church is always right.

If they are wrong, see rule #1.

So sorry you went through that.

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: June 02, 2020 11:44PM

thanks, Dorothy;

I've been looking fwd to a PM from U...

manderst@yahoo.com

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Posted by: dogbloggernli ( )
Date: June 01, 2020 02:49PM

It's hard to listen when you're right.

People don't follow their emotions for reason. They follow their emotions because we're emotional beings to greater and lesser extents individually.

Faith is primarily emotion based. Until that emotional structure is eroded or otherwise reduced, reason has insufficient penetrative power to overcome the instinctive deflection response.

We all do it when we hear something at odds with our world view. Demonstrate the cultivation of reasonable doubt over the usual blind certainty.

Just as Mormons don't listen to us, neither do we listen to Mormons because we are both right. There is a failure on both sides and we need to communicate in sideways paths rather than about being right as the topic itself.

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Posted by: MormonMartinLuther ( )
Date: June 02, 2020 08:56PM

One of the wisest things I ever heard from a prophet was not to be concerned with who was right but what was right.

Sadly that died with Ezra Taft Benson in the modern mormon corporation.

It doesn't matter if you are right as people who are wrong still want to prove they are right. It is more important than facts.
Hence, mormonism still exists and people proudly proclaim a church that is verifiably without modern day revelation has a prophet.

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