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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: July 26, 2020 01:52PM

"Several Virginia residents say they received unsolicited packages of seeds that officials believe could be from China, the Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services said Friday. They say they don't know what the seeds are or who sent them.

The seeds were sent in the mail and appear to have "Chinese writing" on them and could be an invasive species, the department said."

""Invasive species wreak havoc on the environment, displace or destroy native plants and insects and severely damage crops. Taking steps to prevent their introduction is the most effective method of reducing both the risk of invasive species infestations and the cost to control and mitigate those infestations," the department said in a statement.

If you receive a package with the seed, the Department of Agriculture is asking that people contact them at ReportAPest@vdacs.virginia.gov.

The department said people in Kansas have been getting the packages by mail. Some are labeled as jewelry and have Chinese writing on them.

They aren’t sure what type of seeds these are, but they’re asking people not to plant them.

Agriculture officials believe these seeds might be dangerous. They said they could be invasive species, could introduce diseases to local plants, or could be harmful to livestock.

People in other states across the country have also received similar packages, according to the department.

Lori Culley, who lives in Tooele, Utah, told Fox 13 that she found two small packages in her mailbox Tuesday that had Chinese writing on them.

“I opened them up and they were seeds,” Culley told the news station. “Obviously they’re not jewelry!”

In Utah, at least 40 people had received mysterious seeds, Fox 13 reported. It is unclear how many people in Virginia and Washington were mailed a package of seeds, but officials said “several.”

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/mystery-seeds-possibly-from-china-are-being-mailed-to-virginia-residents/2371404/

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Posted by: Rainfall ( )
Date: July 27, 2020 09:21AM

If they don't know what they are, how do they know they are invasive species?

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: July 27, 2020 09:46AM

Apparently they are looking the gift of the year of the horse in the mouth!

What's probably going to happen is that someone who doesn't like a neighbor is going to get the seeds and then cast them into that neighbor's garden. Then will come the Day of the Triffids!!!

But at least we'll see them coming.

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Posted by: Beth ( )
Date: July 27, 2020 11:49AM

Rainfall Wrote:
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> If they don't know what they are, how do they know
> they are invasive species?

Please note the qualifiers "could", "aren’t sure", "believe", "might."

It's called "being cautious."

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Posted by: ufotofu ( )
Date: July 27, 2020 01:51PM

Rainfall Wrote:
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> If they don't know what they are, how do they know
> they are invasive species?

When was the last time someone mailed you some organic pot seeds, for free, unsolicited, in the mail, labeled jewelry?

Now if someone sent you some really high quality, and valuable, jewelry, labeled seeds, one can choose what to do with it, but I wouldn't plant it.

They're obviously part of a ploy or plan and it's probably not decent and worth planting.

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Posted by: Devoted Exmo ( )
Date: July 27, 2020 12:18PM

This would appear to have nothing to do with seeds and everything to do with selling items online.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/wadeshepard/2019/10/25/americans-are-still-receiving-unordered-packages-from-asian-e-criminals/

So, according to this article, they're sending cheap packages to us customers who've they've used to fake accounts so that they can then leave positive feedback for their sales stats to boost their ranking on SEO and sales platforms. Interesting. Glad I've never ordered anything from China.

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Posted by: ufotofu ( )
Date: July 27, 2020 01:53PM

This is a thing.
I read of it yesterday. Now today. I hope I don't read of this tomorrow. Yuck!

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Posted by: loislane ( )
Date: July 27, 2020 04:20PM

There must be an easier way to scatter seeds.
Like send them to Chinese students in the USA ant tell them to start broadcasting.

At lease we would know what we were dealing with if somebody planted them in an indoor pot, and then took it to a horticulturist to see what it was. Little Shop of Horrors anyone? FEED ME!

The parablel of the sower of seeds comes to mind.

I think we have the Chinese to thank for Kudzu. Or was that the Japanese. Oh. well, deserted houses look kind of nifty when covered with kudzu.

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Posted by: ufotofu ( )
Date: July 29, 2020 04:29PM

Cut that zudzu out, if you can.

Not a pretty picture.

Invasive species
Humans!

Edited: spell checker makes more mistakes than I. In fact, it even causes me to make mistakes. Of course that is saying more about it than me. We'll see-



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/29/2020 04:31PM by ufotofu.

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Posted by: bradley ( )
Date: July 27, 2020 11:12PM

So the Chinese are spreading more seed than Joseph Smith.

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Posted by: hujo2 ( )
Date: July 29, 2020 04:34PM

lmfao

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Posted by: ziller ( )
Date: July 29, 2020 01:35PM

ban seeds ~

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Posted by: hujo2 ( )
Date: July 29, 2020 04:34PM

Dave, I emailed you. Can u please take a look?
Thanks,
Hujo2

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: July 29, 2020 05:07PM

I read your mail. the answer is no.

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Posted by: Beth ( )
Date: August 07, 2020 02:27AM

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

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Posted by: Zelf the Apostate ( )
Date: July 30, 2020 07:00PM

Damn Crinoids!!!!

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Posted by: caffiend ( )
Date: July 30, 2020 07:38PM


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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: July 30, 2020 08:34PM

No need to go downstairs. Just be patient, and in a day or two they'll appear in your kitchen and bedroom all on their own.

And the bugs? They aren't insects.

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Posted by: iceman9090 ( )
Date: July 30, 2020 11:40PM

That's bizarre.
Just use a torch and burn the seeds.

~~~~iceman9090

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: July 31, 2020 07:28PM

The US sent these to China.

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2007/04/05/business/soy600.jpg

Oh wait--since the inception of the trade war China has procured those from Brazil.

But they used to be American!

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: July 31, 2020 08:01PM

" remain well below levels before the U.S.-China trade war that began in 2018."

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Posted by: caffiend ( )
Date: July 31, 2020 08:19PM

US soybean global exports are up 2%. China is up 72% (2020 2 quarters over 2019), and will probably be more, as they are suffering major weather disruptions. Also, we're now exporting Alaska crude there in record amounts. There's a long way to go to reverse, or even reverse, our trade deficit but it's a start What if we exported NBA players?

China lied.
The economy died.

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: July 31, 2020 08:28PM

But her E-mails !

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: July 31, 2020 09:17PM

> There's a long way
> to go to reverse, or even reverse, our trade
> deficit but it's a start

Do facts matter? As a percentage of GDP, which is the right way to measure them, US external deficits have been

2013 4.0
2014 2.7
2015 2.4
2016 3.1
2017 3.4
2018 3.8
2019 4.6
2020 4.8 estimate (stripping out the COVID impact, which would take it to 17.9)
2021 4.1 estimate

Imagine that: those economists who showed how tariffs would worsen the deficit were actually correct. The spinners of fairy tales were wrong.

I don't know why we must live in an era in which mathematics is derided as a liberal hoax.

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Posted by: caffiend ( )
Date: July 31, 2020 09:49PM

I think the important thing is to eliminate our dependence on China for our supply chain. Too many vested interests have bought (into) cheap Chinese goods for fat profits at the cost of gutting our production base. Checking over a few sites, LW, I have to acknowledge there hasn't been as much progress as I had thought:

https://tradingeconomics.com/china/balance-of-trade

Much needs to be done. Few people are talking about it, and even fewer are doing anything about it. Before the end of the year,we'll know if anything's going to be done about growing Chinese hegemony, or if it's back to the normalcy of easy profits.

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Posted by: caffiend ( )
Date: July 31, 2020 10:07PM


Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/31/2020 10:09PM by caffiend.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: July 31, 2020 10:11PM

I realize that this isn't going to go anywhere, but trade deficits/surpluses are driven by savings and investment rates. If you shrink spending, your deficit will increase. If you cut taxes (forced savings) massively without cutting government spending commensurately, your deficit will grow larger.

The US could ban all imports from China if it wanted, and the bilateral trade balance would improve, but the overall balance would not change at all because American consumption would simply shift to the next-cheapest source. If you want the overall trade deficit to shrink, you need to raise American savings rates.

But that reality is too complex to serve as a bright shiny object. It is far easier to blame everything on China, with whom we have other very serious conflicts, and rest comfortable that the vast majority of voters will never realize your policies are damaging the international position--and the manufacturing base--of the United States.

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: July 31, 2020 09:28PM

Tell us again who lied and killed 150,000 Americans.

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Posted by: NormaRae ( )
Date: July 31, 2020 09:46PM

Well, if you plant them and the next thing you know you have a plant the size of your room saying "FEEEEEEEED ME!", I suggest you go to Utah to find good succulent, ummmm, plant food.

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: July 31, 2020 09:46PM

US soybean global exports are up 2% ... from what ?

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Posted by: caffiend ( )
Date: July 31, 2020 10:08PM

Not your usual RR fare, but a bit of variety: sometimes, even diesels are beautiful!

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a135a27941382fa4e43f15047c9dbf1d969e3540eb5bae4efcdf1bf81b2d205a.png

I love the countryside for this shot, and the composition is lovely.

I love old ironwork, like truss bridges. Here's one of my favorites, in Cache Valley, over the Bear River. It's an auto bridge, not rail, but noble and old and lovely.

https://bridgehunter.com/ut/cache/5034C/

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Posted by: Shugden ( )
Date: August 01, 2020 08:06AM

I guess this makes a change from blaming the Russians for everything.

Who needs these when you've got kudzu vines and giant hogweed already?

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Posted by: Heartless ( )
Date: August 07, 2020 03:10AM

Either way it's the commies fault!

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Posted by: EXON46 ( )
Date: August 07, 2020 03:54PM

I was told that if you step on Kudzu, it won't grow there anymore.

We joked that to make Kudzu a stronger plant, to plant it under a 6 inches of asphalt.

If we could plant it on Mars, Mars would be green.

Don't nap anywhere Kudzu is, cuz, you know it's Kudzu.

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Posted by: Chicken N. Backpacks ( )
Date: August 01, 2020 05:00PM

"May we have a minute of your time to share a message about...seeds?"

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: August 08, 2020 05:21PM


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Posted by: donbagley ( )
Date: August 08, 2020 07:19PM

The seeds will grow election ballots.

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