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Posted by: Torfinn Skullsplitter ( )
Date: September 25, 2020 07:06AM

You can always tell cultish or authoritarian groups, by the fact they change the name of things on a regular basis. This is to expose whoever has not been keeping up with the party line.

https://www.ldsliving.com/17-historic-Church-sites-are-getting-a-name-update-Here-s-why/s/9300

Here are just a handful of the sites which have recently received an updated name:

• Carthage Jail (previously Historic Carthage Jail and Visitors’ Center)
• Cove Fort (previously Historic Cove Fort)
• Grandin Building: Book of Mormon Publication Site (previously Book of Mormon Historic Publication Site)
• Joseph Smith Birthplace (previously Joseph Smith Birthplace Memorial)
• Martin’s Cove: Mormon Trail Site (previously Mormon Handcart Historic Site: Martin’s Cove)

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Posted by: Northern_Lights ( )
Date: September 25, 2020 09:17AM

I fail to see what is wrong with a name update, and what is wrong with modernizing names to make them less wordy. This is a reach

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Posted by: Torfinn Skullsplitter ( )
Date: September 25, 2020 09:47AM

Northern_Lights Wrote:
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> I fail to see what is wrong with a name update,
> and what is wrong with modernizing names to make
> them less wordy. This is a reach

There are three things going on here:
* Like many modern people Nelson is incredibly pedantic about names and words. This is so people can be triggered and offended.
* Some of the new names are longer like the Grandin one above or MoTab's new brand.
* It allows the in group to identify the out group. JWs do this all the time.

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Posted by: Torfinn Skullsplitter ( )
Date: September 25, 2020 10:03AM

Northern_Lights Wrote:
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> I fail to see what is wrong with a name update,
> and what is wrong with modernizing names to make
> them less wordy. This is a reach

How are these names less wordy?

* Brigham Young Winter Home ->Brigham Young Winter Home and Office
* Book of Mormon Historic Publication Site -> Grandin Building: Book of Mormon Publication Site
* Mormon Battalion Historic Site at San Diego-> Mormon Battalion Center at San Diego
* Peter Whitmer Farm -> Whitmer Farm: Church Organization Site

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Posted by: tumwater ( )
Date: September 25, 2020 11:56AM

"How are these names less wordy?"

They are less wordy in the same vain as going from:

Mormon or Latter Day Saints

to:
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: September 25, 2020 11:55AM

Hi Jordan. Your username generator is too clever by half today. Writing style is still the same. It is considered good net etiquette to use a consistent username. Unusual hobby you have here, though using multiple usernames in a single day seems kind of excessive, even for you.

Anyhow, you seem to want attention, so I am offering some. Yer welcome.

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Posted by: logged off ( )
Date: September 25, 2020 12:19PM

They're taking "historic" out of the names. Seems innocuous enough. Maybe it's the first step in gradually converting early church history into allegory and metaphor, kind of like Lamanites.

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Posted by: Soft Machine ( )
Date: September 25, 2020 12:28PM

Interesting idea. Any suggestions for the meaning of the metaphor that is LDS history? Of the Mountain Meadows massacre? If it's JS's life and death (death being a part of life ;-), the lesson might be "stealing stuff from the masons and claiming God means there's no help for a widow's son when he needs it". Anyone have any other ideas? ;-)



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/25/2020 12:29PM by Soft Machine.

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Posted by: logged off ( )
Date: September 25, 2020 01:34PM

Truth be told, that last statement was more tongue in cheek. But we can still run with it.

There's no question that the church is downplaying its history, instructing people not to research on their own, and publishing whitewashed accounts. I've heard that they're also fuzzing up the more mystical stories - for example that the sealing authority was really restored by PJ&J in 1829 rather than Elijah in 1836 because the later date makes Fanny Alger (1831-32) problematic. (So why Elijah? Don't ask.)

The concrete stuff is harder to explain away of course, and if they really are going that way, they're playing a *very* long game, measured in decades or generations, and these are the first baby steps. After all, there are mormons alive right now who personally knew covered wagon pioneers.

They've got the money for the long con, and they're well aware that Jesus ain't coming to save them.

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Posted by: EXON46 ( )
Date: September 25, 2020 02:04PM

If you run the zoo you can call it what ever you like. However, the question is why does it have to or need to be changed?
Most reasons turn up to be money or prestige related.

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Posted by: ufotofu ( )
Date: September 25, 2020 03:03PM

Accounting.
Editing.
Simplifying.
'Splaining.
Mainstreaming.

Renaming, so they don't get bored or stumble over the wordiness of it all.

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Posted by: ufotofu ( )
Date: September 25, 2020 03:10PM

Oh wait! Mormonism is ALL ABOUT wordiness, uselessness, nonsense and excessively complicating everything under the sun. And moon. And stars & planets. Can't plan it!

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